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    I think Walz is going to hurt Harris big time. VPs rarely help, but they can hurt. He effectively is a liar. Not only did he say he was in combat carrying a gun (lie) it's clear he "retired" from the National Guard as a Master Sargent when he learned his unit was going to be deployed. His supervisor said he would have denied his retirement because it was too close to deployment, so good old Tim went around him and retired anyway. Guy is a full blown coward. Same guy as Governor who put tampons in boy's bathrooms in the rare occurrence a transgender would enter the boy's room and needed a fucking tampon. The crazy thing is Kamala knew about these lies and nominated him anyway. These people are sick.

    I know there is a clamoring for Trump to stick to issues. That is a sucker's position. Trump needs to go ultra negative and dark. This is pro wrestling now, and the heels always get the most attention. You try talking about taxes to this electorate, you will lose this audience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    This is unprecedented territory, and very hard to predict.

    At the same time, we have a very polarizing Republican candidate who got voted out after 1 term, and is back as the candidate again. Also something we've never seen in our lifetime.
    Well you are part right. There has been a similar precedent. Nixon was VP from 1952-1960 and effectively had the presidential election stolen in Chicago in 1960, that is almost universally agreed upon. Nixon became very bitter, much like Trump. He did something so incredibly stupid and ran for Governor of California. He was crushed, his career apparently washed up. Then he ran and won in 1968. It was a remarkable comeback, the press hated Nixon and made a mission to get him removed, much like Trump.

    Trump is following a very similar path, sure its different but the fact is he is making a startling comeback. It's very Nixon like. Make no mistake, Nixon praised Trump in the early 80s. I am quite certain Trump remembers that.

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    GOP really and truly has been cuckolded by Trump.

    Has done nothing but cost them election and election for five years and the hungry populace can't get enough.

    Lost an election to a near cadaver and is now getting outpolled by an incompetent VP who is only thriving due to being a sentient option against a senile convicted felon.

    LOL Team Retard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    GOP really and truly has been cuckolded by Trump.

    Has done nothing but cost them election and election for five years and the hungry populace can't get enough.

    Lost an election to a near cadaver and is now getting outpolled by an incompetent VP who is only thriving due to being a sentient option against a senile convicted felon.

    LOL Team Retard

    its nice watching the retard pool shrink and become more fetid and concentrated until its like 98% texans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    This is unprecedented territory, and very hard to predict.

    At the same time, we have a very polarizing Republican candidate who got voted out after 1 term, and is back as the candidate again. Also something we've never seen in our lifetime.
    Well you are part right. There has been a similar precedent. Nixon was VP from 1952-1960 and effectively had the presidential election stolen in Chicago in 1960, that is almost universally agreed upon. Nixon became very bitter, much like Trump. He did something so incredibly stupid and ran for Governor of California. He was crushed, his career apparently washed up. Then he ran and won in 1968. It was a remarkable comeback, the press hated Nixon and made a mission to get him removed, much like Trump.

    Trump is following a very similar path, sure it’s different but the fact is he is making a startling comeback. It's very Nixon like. Make no mistake, Nixon praised Trump in the early 80s. I am quite certain Trump remembers that.
    We are all on a Nixon kick.

    I’m fixated on Nixon at the moment too. He sounds intelligent, sane and dare I say honorable compared to today. Serves as a benchmark for the decline of the empire when Nixon is now capturing my interest as a model statesman.

    Consider Nixon’s reasons for resigning. Neither Biden nor Trump would ever make that move for country

    Middle East, the dollar etc. really interesting.

    In many regards the Democratic and Republican parties have flipped since the 70’s and that’s interesting to look at too.

    Completely fixated on how the CIA and liberal jews fucked up the Shah and Iran. Chickens came home to roost. Nixon had much to say on the subject that was quite brave at the time.

    I’m also hooked on the 1920’s. The period between WWI & WWII. Any period piece has been a home run for me.

    Just finished the “Durrells of Corfu” on PBS stream. 4 seasons complete 2018? True story as written by one of the children in what turned out to be a best seller at one time. Widow loses her husband and moves her family from England to the Greek island of Corfu to live more cheaply. She homeschools her kids - well pretty much lets them run wild and explore life.

    The woman was eccentric as were the children in turn. They all thrived as adults. One a Nobel prize candidate in literature. One a famous zookeeper, conservationist, television personality and writer.

    Fantastic. You really gotta have had kids to appreciate the story fully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    GOP really and truly has been cuckolded by Trump.

    Has done nothing but cost them election and election for five years and the hungry populace can't get enough.

    Lost an election to a near cadaver and is now getting outpolled by an incompetent VP who is only thriving due to being a sentient option against a senile convicted felon.

    LOL Team Retard
    Other threads for this stuff. Side note, do you ever have an original thought or do you just recycle stuff you read from other posters? Kindly take your political takes to other threads, we are trying to make money here, and no not a couple hundred bucks, like your year's salary. Good day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    GOP really and truly has been cuckolded by Trump.

    Has done nothing but cost them election and election for five years and the hungry populace can't get enough.

    Lost an election to a near cadaver and is now getting outpolled by an incompetent VP who is only thriving due to being a sentient option against a senile convicted felon.

    LOL Team Retard

    its nice watching the retard pool shrink and become more fetid and concentrated until its like 98% texans.
    Yo, plenty of threads for this, like your TEAM RETARD thread. This is about making money on odds and polls.

    Druff please clean this thread up from trolling. There are 100 threads about Trump, please move this garbage over there.

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    This used to be a gambling site that posters could talk bets and betting strategies. Now its been polluted by broke guys guys like Sloppy Joe and Garrett. WTF happened to this place? There are only like 25 posters left, I was hoping this place could at least leave the internet with some type of dignity. Guess not, Druff's fantasy of never having moderators has backfired in spectacular fashion.

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    Gayest story ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post

    Well you are part right. There has been a similar precedent. Nixon was VP from 1952-1960 and effectively had the presidential election stolen in Chicago in 1960, that is almost universally agreed upon. Nixon became very bitter, much like Trump. He did something so incredibly stupid and ran for Governor of California. He was crushed, his career apparently washed up. Then he ran and won in 1968. It was a remarkable comeback, the press hated Nixon and made a mission to get him removed, much like Trump.

    Trump is following a very similar path, sure it’s different but the fact is he is making a startling comeback. It's very Nixon like. Make no mistake, Nixon praised Trump in the early 80s. I am quite certain Trump remembers that.
    We are all on a Nixon kick.

    I’m fixated on Nixon at the moment too. He sounds intelligent, sane and dare I say honorable compared to today. Serves as a benchmark for the decline of the empire when Nixon is now capturing my interest as a model statesman.

    Consider Nixon’s reasons for resigning. Neither Biden nor Trump would ever make that move for country

    Middle East, the dollar etc. really interesting.

    In many regards the Democratic and Republican parties have flipped since the 70’s and that’s interesting to look at too.

    Completely fixated on how the CIA and liberal jews fucked up the Shah and Iran. Chickens came home to roost. Nixon had much to say on the subject that was quite brave at the time.

    I’m also hooked on the 1920’s. The period between WWI & WWII. Any period piece has been a home run for me.

    Just finished the “Durrells of Corfu” on PBS stream. 4 seasons complete 2018? True story as written by one of the children in what turned out to be a best seller at one time. Widow loses her husband and moves her family from England to the Greek island of Corfu to live more cheaply. She homeschools her kids - well pretty much lets them run wild and explore life.

    The woman was eccentric as were the children in turn. They all thrived as adults. One a Nobel prize candidate in literature. One a famous zookeeper, conservationist, television personality and writer.

    Fantastic. You really gotta have had kids to appreciate the story fully.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    This used to be a gambling site that posters could talk bets and betting strategies. Now its been polluted by broke guys guys like Sloppy Joe and Garrett. WTF happened to this place? There are only like 25 posters left, I was hoping this place could at least leave the internet with some type of dignity. Guess not, Druff's fantasy of never having moderators has backfired in spectacular fashion.
    So true all the extremist leftists scared off guys like Bart Hansen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    This used to be a gambling site that posters could talk bets and betting strategies. Now its been polluted by broke guys guys like Sloppy Joe and Garrett. WTF happened to this place? There are only like 25 posters left, I was hoping this place could at least leave the internet with some type of dignity. Guess not, Druff's fantasy of never having moderators has backfired in spectacular fashion.
    You're a failed man whose idea of wealth consists of a filet mignon at Ruth's Chris with your Coach briefcase in tow.

    You also have a history of just pumping up Republican polling dating back to RCP and Mitt Romney, lol. Great post!

    Forgive us all for laughing hysterically, have another drink and scrounge up some child support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    This is unprecedented territory, and very hard to predict.

    At the same time, we have a very polarizing Republican candidate who got voted out after 1 term, and is back as the candidate again. Also something we've never seen in our lifetime.
    Well you are part right. There has been a similar precedent. Nixon was VP from 1952-1960 and effectively had the presidential election stolen in Chicago in 1960, that is almost universally agreed upon. Nixon became very bitter, much like Trump. He did something so incredibly stupid and ran for Governor of California. He was crushed, his career apparently washed up. Then he ran and won in 1968. It was a remarkable comeback, the press hated Nixon and made a mission to get him removed, much like Trump.

    Trump is following a very similar path, sure its different but the fact is he is making a startling comeback. It's very Nixon like. Make no mistake, Nixon praised Trump in the early 80s. I am quite certain Trump remembers that.
    Yes, the 1960 Presidential race was indeed stolen. Nobody talks about that anymore. I guess because it's been so long, most of the population was either not yet born or too young to care when it occurred.

    There's no doubt it was stolen, actually. Between the dead people voting in Chicago and the ballot stuffing in Texas, Nixon was denied being the rightful winner. This is the only real stolen election in modern US history. The 2000 election (Bush/Gore) was not stolen, just amazingly down to a few hundred votes in Florida. The 2016 election (Hillary/Trump) was not stolen. The Russian influence thing was complete BS. The 2020 election (Biden/Trump) was not stolen. The vote counting was just weird due to the large number of mail-ins.

    However, Nixon and Trump are not the same situation. Nixon ran in '60, got cheated out of the win, then ran again in '68 and won. Trump actually won, then lost, then became the candidate again, in 3 consecutive elections. That hasn't been seen before.

    A new set of polls came out showing Kamala ahead as much as 6 points (!!) in Nevada, after Trump was crushing Biden there. That's a problem. Nevada has been a difficult state to predict, and often defies national trends, though. For example, Hillary greatly outperformed expectations in Nevada in 2016, and was one of the earliest states to yield results, due to early voting. This made it look almost certain that Trump was going to get crushed. However, it ended up as only one of two (at the time) swing states where she outperformed polls -- the other being Colorado, which is now solid blue.

     
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    Florida is not a swing state anymore. There are some fake swing states, which the media likes to say are in play, but never are.

    This includes Oregon (blue), Florida (red), Minnesota (blue), Iowa (red), and laughably sometimes New Jersey (blue).

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    florida would be a great topic for a really good data dive at this point. it _should_ be blood red but the numbers are more complicated i expected, thanks largely to radicalization alienating a lot of the centerist republicans but also an influx of moderates from new york and california, the impact of global warming on insurance rates not to mention frequency of disasters, and desantis turning into a wet sack filled with squirming retards every time someone puts him in front of a camera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post

    Well you are part right. There has been a similar precedent. Nixon was VP from 1952-1960 and effectively had the presidential election stolen in Chicago in 1960, that is almost universally agreed upon. Nixon became very bitter, much like Trump. He did something so incredibly stupid and ran for Governor of California. He was crushed, his career apparently washed up. Then he ran and won in 1968. It was a remarkable comeback, the press hated Nixon and made a mission to get him removed, much like Trump.

    Trump is following a very similar path, sure its different but the fact is he is making a startling comeback. It's very Nixon like. Make no mistake, Nixon praised Trump in the early 80s. I am quite certain Trump remembers that.
    Yes, the 1960 Presidential race was indeed stolen. Nobody talks about that anymore. I guess because it's been so long, most of the population was either not yet born or too young to care when it occurred.

    There's no doubt it was stolen, actually. Between the dead people voting in Chicago and the ballot stuffing in Texas, Nixon was denied being the rightful winner. This is the only real stolen election in modern US history. The 2000 election (Bush/Gore) was not stolen, just amazingly down to a few hundred votes in Florida. The 2016 election (Hillary/Trump) was not stolen. The Russian influence thing was complete BS. The 2020 election (Biden/Trump) was not stolen. The vote counting was just weird due to the large number of mail-ins.

    However, Nixon and Trump are not the same situation. Nixon ran in '60, got cheated out of the win, then ran again in '68 and won. Trump actually won, then lost, then became the candidate again, in 3 consecutive elections. That hasn't been seen before.

    A new set of polls came out showing Kamala ahead as much as 6 points (!!) in Nevada, after Trump was crushing Biden there. That's a problem. Nevada has been a difficult state to predict, and often defies national trends, though. For example, Hillary greatly outperformed expectations in Nevada in 2016, and was one of the earliest states to yield results, due to early voting. This made it look almost certain that Trump was going to get crushed. However, it ended up as only one of two (at the time) swing states where she outperformed polls -- the other being Colorado, which is now solid blue.
    Florida and Ohio may be in play:

    https://twitter.com/PhillipJerez/status/1821601593751388541

    https://twitter.com/frankrichny/status/1822272697553805394

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Florida is not a swing state anymore. There are some fake swing states, which the media likes to say are in play, but never are.

    This includes Oregon (blue), Florida (red), Minnesota (blue), Iowa (red), and laughably sometimes New Jersey (blue).
    Texas is also a fake swing state that the former DrudgeReport always has in bright letters every election cycle. For those that do not know, Matt Drudge sold the site to the family of one of the original members of Google, so it is way left leaning now.

    I am not sure why the media obsesses about Arizona and Nevada, they are simply not relevant. If Trump wins Georgia he will likely pull PA, and vice versa for Kamala.

    I am going to make a big bet after the debate(s), that should set the landscape. My gut tells me a landslide for Trump, people will come to their senses when all said and done. With that said, Trump is off at the moment, I think the assignation attempt took something out of him and if he still is in a fog come October, Harris might pull it out. I'm waiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    This used to be a gambling site that posters could talk bets and betting strategies. Now its been polluted by broke guys guys like Sloppy Joe and Garrett. WTF happened to this place? There are only like 25 posters left, I was hoping this place could at least leave the internet with some type of dignity. Guess not, Druff's fantasy of never having moderators has backfired in spectacular fashion.
    You're a failed man whose idea of wealth consists of a filet mignon at Ruth's Chris with your Coach briefcase in tow.

    You also have a history of just pumping up Republican polling dating back to RCP and Mitt Romney, lol. Great post!

    Forgive us all for laughing hysterically, have another drink and scrounge up some child support.
    You keep stating child support, I have no idea what you are talking about. One thing is for certain, I despise poor people, so you are back on block, I made a mistake taking you off block in the first place. Go back to copying your one liners from Tyde. I won't see them any longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vpbob View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    Yes, the 1960 Presidential race was indeed stolen. Nobody talks about that anymore. I guess because it's been so long, most of the population was either not yet born or too young to care when it occurred.

    There's no doubt it was stolen, actually. Between the dead people voting in Chicago and the ballot stuffing in Texas, Nixon was denied being the rightful winner. This is the only real stolen election in modern US history. The 2000 election (Bush/Gore) was not stolen, just amazingly down to a few hundred votes in Florida. The 2016 election (Hillary/Trump) was not stolen. The Russian influence thing was complete BS. The 2020 election (Biden/Trump) was not stolen. The vote counting was just weird due to the large number of mail-ins.

    However, Nixon and Trump are not the same situation. Nixon ran in '60, got cheated out of the win, then ran again in '68 and won. Trump actually won, then lost, then became the candidate again, in 3 consecutive elections. That hasn't been seen before.

    A new set of polls came out showing Kamala ahead as much as 6 points (!!) in Nevada, after Trump was crushing Biden there. That's a problem. Nevada has been a difficult state to predict, and often defies national trends, though. For example, Hillary greatly outperformed expectations in Nevada in 2016, and was one of the earliest states to yield results, due to early voting. This made it look almost certain that Trump was going to get crushed. However, it ended up as only one of two (at the time) swing states where she outperformed polls -- the other being Colorado, which is now solid blue.
    Florida and Ohio may be in play:

    https://twitter.com/PhillipJerez/status/1821601593751388541

    https://twitter.com/frankrichny/status/1822272697553805394
    Polymarket has Trump up 85-15 on Florida. If you actually believe the twitter universe you can make an absolute killing on Harris. Go bet it. It's there. There are no odds on Ohio, so you might have to go to a street bookie to get some action there.

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    There are some older democrats in Ohio that don’t have cable or the internet and still read the daily paper believing all the lib lies.

    You can’t possibly explain what is really going on to them, they came from a different age.

    That being said I was driving down a rural road today 55 speed limit and passed a billboard that said Kamala has been on more wieners than Heinz ketchup. Was going to fast to get the pic of it.
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