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    i was listening to red scare the other night and they were talking about how the next big public health crisis is going to be women who drank themselves into dementia and my first thought was 'its already here and its name is splitthis'.

     
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    I speak jive.

    She said she is fixing up her home. Did some plumbing and working on light fixtures tomorrow. Waiting for the weather to cool down to paint, as the fumes necessitate opening windows.

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    @ tgull

    I just saw Trump is pulling out of New Hampshire - the 4th whitest state in the Union. Super odd.

    I was gonna buy some fireworks up there and lurk a rally. I have a checkered flannel shirt from LL Bean that I’ve never worn.

    I’m not sure why he’s quitting. Easier to just ask you than do some boring reading.

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    These polls mean NOTHING.

    The fix is in.

    Historian who accurately predicted 9 of last 10 presidential elections makes his 2024 pick

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...n/75082875007/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    @ tgull

    I just saw Trump is pulling out of New Hampshire - the 4th whitest state in the Union. Super odd.

    I was gonna buy some fireworks up there and lurk a rally. I have a checkered flannel shirt from LL Bean that I’ve never worn.

    I’m not sure why he’s quitting. Easier to just ask you than do some boring reading.
    There are sucker states that campaigns always get suckered into early on. NH for the Republicans and the Texas Dream for the Democrats. Neither one is flipping any time soon and certainly not this decade.

    Assuming Trump holds NC and GA, and he should be fine there, it really does come down to PA. Even though he is likely to carry AZ, it does not matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
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    @ tgull

    I just saw Trump is pulling out of New Hampshire - the 4th whitest state in the Union. Super odd.

    I was gonna buy some fireworks up there and lurk a rally. I have a checkered flannel shirt from LL Bean that I’ve never worn.

    I’m not sure why he’s quitting. Easier to just ask you than do some boring reading.
    There are sucker states that campaigns always get suckered into early on. NH for the Republicans and the Texas Dream for the Democrats. Neither one is flipping any time soon and certainly not this decade.

    Assuming Trump holds NC and GA, and he should be fine there, it really does come down to PA. Even though he is likely to carry AZ, it does not matter.
    This is 2020..

    https://twitter.com/darkjournalist/status/1324403154163802112

    And today might be this..

    https://twitter.com/trumprealparody/status/1831853596654366724

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    Garrett,

    It might help if you use a current 2024 map with the correct EC votes such as Texas which now has 40 EC as opposed to 38 in 2020. You are looking at a 2020 map, no surprise there though. AZ is not needed if Trump wins PA, GA and NC.

     
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    Betting markets now clear Trump 51-48 average and growing.

    If Harris has a bad debate, and this format is about the worse for her and the word salads, her support could completely collapse. She literally has a rough time getting through 20 second unscripted answers let alone 90 seconds a pop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    @ tgull

    I just saw Trump is pulling out of New Hampshire - the 4th whitest state in the Union. Super odd.

    I was gonna buy some fireworks up there and lurk a rally. I have a checkered flannel shirt from LL Bean that I’ve never worn.

    I’m not sure why he’s quitting. Easier to just ask you than do some boring reading.
    There are sucker states that campaigns always get suckered into early on. NH for the Republicans and the Texas Dream for the Democrats. Neither one is flipping any time soon and certainly not this decade.

    Assuming Trump holds NC and GA, and he should be fine there, it really does come down to PA. Even though he is likely to carry AZ, it does not matter.
    This is the type of bait Party people get excited about, especially on the Democratic side:

    Friday, September 6
    Florida: Trump vs. Harris
    The Hill/Emerson
    Trump 50, Harris 45
    Trump
    +5

    Texas: Trump vs. Harris
    The Hill/Emerson
    Trump 50, Harris 46
    Trump
    +4


    Emerson two weeks before the 2020 election had Biden slightly ahead in Florida and slightly behind in Texas. Both states were blow out wins for Trump. Republicans can be awful on this as well, they traditionally spend way too much time in New Hampshire and Nevada for that matter. You will watch the MSM go orgasmic the next few days, saying Texas is in Play!!! They always lose the state by 8-11 points.

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    Here is Mark Halperin, MSNBC Trump hater who was fired for sexual embarrassment last year, que up to 3:55 mark for PA comments.


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    From Nate Silver:

    Swing States: chance of winning Pennsylvania - �� Trump 62-38% Michigan - �� Trump 52-48% Wisconsin - �� Trump 52-48% Arizona - �� Trump 75-25% North Carolina - �� Trump 74-26% Georgia - �� Trump 67-33% Nevada - �� Trump 59-41%

    https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1832093669417165307

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    @ tgull

    I just saw Trump is pulling out of New Hampshire - the 4th whitest state in the Union. Super odd.

    I was gonna buy some fireworks up there and lurk a rally. I have a checkered flannel shirt from LL Bean that I’ve never worn.

    I’m not sure why he’s quitting. Easier to just ask you than do some boring reading.
    There are sucker states that campaigns always get suckered into early on. NH for the Republicans and the Texas Dream for the Democrats. Neither one is flipping any time soon and certainly not this decade.

    Assuming Trump holds NC and GA, and he should be fine there, it really does come down to PA. Even though he is likely to carry AZ, it does not matter.
    Flipping?

    NH has a Republican Governor

    It is the 4th whitest state.

    NH license plate reads “Live Free or Die”. It has a strong Libertarian streak. NH would rather die than pay state tax to the gubmint

    NH is one of the most educated populations with about the 10th highest average income.

    That is not fertile ground for Trump? You have to admit it’s interesting.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post

    There are sucker states that campaigns always get suckered into early on. NH for the Republicans and the Texas Dream for the Democrats. Neither one is flipping any time soon and certainly not this decade.

    Assuming Trump holds NC and GA, and he should be fine there, it really does come down to PA. Even though he is likely to carry AZ, it does not matter.
    Flipping?

    NH has a Republican Governor

    It is the 4th whitest state.

    NH license plate reads “Live Free or Die”. It has a strong Libertarian streak. NH would rather die than pay state tax to the gubmint

    NH is one of the most educated populations with about the 10th highest average income.

    That is not fertile ground for Trump? You have to admit it’s interesting.
    I would have to look it up, but Trump denied pulling out of New Hampshire himself for sure. Looks like what happened is the internet questioning why Kamala and co. were campaigning there so they found some quote from a staffer in Massachusetts and ran with it for a bunch of attack articles. Typical Democrat PR MO.

     
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    https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1832741724583530881

    This is a disaster for Kamala. This is a huge sample size of likely voters by the allegedly best pollster in the country. Despite being an "A+" poll and the highest rated by many, the have consistently underestimated Trump in state and national polling. In 2020 they had Biden winning by 9 in their final poll. Polling errors are overwhelmingly likely to still be in the favor of Trump due to the difficulty of getting the voters that only come out to vote for him to respond to polling and the exact opposite problem for libtardian voters. There is no way their margin of error is more than the 4+ points she would need to have any real chance.

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    Sunday, September 8
    National: Trump vs. Harris NY Times/Siena
    Harris 47, Trump 48

    Trump +1

    National: Multi-Candidate NY Times/Siena
    Harris 45, Trump 47, Kennedy , Oliver 2, Stein 1, West

    Trump +2

    Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Harris CBS News
    Trump 50, Harris 50

    Tie

    Michigan: Trump vs. Harris CBS News
    Harris 50, Trump 49

    Harris +1

    Wisconsin: Trump vs. Harris CBS News
    Harris 51, Trump 49

    Harris +2


    Keep in mind, the week before the election, ABC Poll had Biden up in Wisconsin by 17 points. Yes, 17. Biden won by less than 1%. If you don't think that was an orchestrated event by ABC I really don't know what to tell you. And they are running the debate. If you don't think Harris has the questions in the debate, here again I don't know what to tell you. But I do have a Multi Level Marketing Opportunity to share with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post
    https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1832741724583530881

    This is a disaster for Kamala. This is a huge sample size of likely voters by the allegedly best pollster in the country. Despite being an "A+" poll and the highest rated by many, the have consistently underestimated Trump in state and national polling. In 2020 they had Biden winning by 9 in their final poll. Polling errors are overwhelmingly likely to still be in the favor of Trump due to the difficulty of getting the voters that only come out to vote for him to respond to polling and the exact opposite problem for libtardian voters. There is no way their margin of error is more than the 4+ points she would need to have any real chance.
    i think 3% is the number 4% is a little rich, I've done a deep dive in the numbers. I am waiting for the debate to make a large bet (for me), 5 figures. I believe Harris will bomb given the format of having to fill up multiple 90 second answers. This is not Hillary Clinton who actually is very smart. This is Kamala Harris who really is a sack of hammers intellectually. But we will see in two days. But I can't see her performing in this format. There was a reason she was universally rejected in 2019 in the primary and in 2022 Biden called her a work in progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post
    https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1832741724583530881

    This is a disaster for Kamala. This is a huge sample size of likely voters by the allegedly best pollster in the country. Despite being an "A+" poll and the highest rated by many, the have consistently underestimated Trump in state and national polling. In 2020 they had Biden winning by 9 in their final poll. Polling errors are overwhelmingly likely to still be in the favor of Trump due to the difficulty of getting the voters that only come out to vote for him to respond to polling and the exact opposite problem for libtardian voters. There is no way their margin of error is more than the 4+ points she would need to have any real chance.
    i think 3% is the number 4% is a little rich, I've done a deep dive in the numbers. I am waiting for the debate to make a large bet (for me), 5 figures. I believe Harris will bomb given the format of having to fill up multiple 90 second answers. This is not Hillary Clinton who actually is very smart. This is Kamala Harris who really is a sack of hammers intellectually. But we will see in two days. But I can't see her performing in this format. There was a reason she was universally rejected in 2019 in the primary and in 2022 Biden called her a work in progress.
    -1 in the poll and and 4 point margin of error off = +3 is what I meant. 3 is the minimum. It will probably end up being more though.

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    Voting polls mean NOTHING.

    Nate Silver predicted a Hillary Clinton victory.



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