Have you never heard of playing for your audience before?
I’ll be the first to admit that changing it to being an American audience is an untestable hypothesis, but I wasn’t the first one to bring it up anyway. Maybe Ohio would have been a big nothing; if Natalie Maines says she’s ashamed to be from Texas, whilst performing in San Antonio, I’m not sure she walks out of there under her own power. Either way, it’s an untestable hypothesis.
I think, “Having nothing in common with their hick fanbase,” is a bit of an overstatement. Maines was opposed to legalizing marijuana (at least, prior to these statements), for one thing. I don’t know HOW liberal Maines was, at the time, I just consider it fairly obvious that she was at least somewhat liberal before these statements; I don’t think they did much to hide that.
Anyway, her hick fanbase was convinced Iraq had WMD’s because of George W. Bush’s mere say so; that’s despite the fact that there wasn’t much in the way of evidence that pointed to that. Whether you like it or not, Maines ended up being right when it came to her stance on the war, a stance that was shared by Toby Keith anyway.
If the fans felt personally betrayed by Maines, then she was also right about what you imply she thinks their general intelligence level is; if there’s no war, then she doesn’t make the comment, so clearly, the comments are about the war. There’s no world where it should be seen as taking shots at their fans. Besides that, you’re now wanting me to believe that these people were so emotionally wounded that they just had to run over albums with tractors, set them on fire, etc…because they were such huge Dixie Chicks fans that they couldn’t even have figured out Maines was a liberal!? Come on!
First of all, even if you actually gaf what someone thinks (and there is no reason anyone should have really cared what Maines had to say anyway), if they say something that gets to you—you should never let them know it got to you. Being triggered by a 20 or 30-something year old’s anti-war opinion such that they construe it as a personal attack? Laughable.
Secondly, I don’t accept that the people on the backlash trains were all necessarily rabid Dixie Chicks fans; more likely, people just like faux outrage trains and are always willing to buy a ticket. I would say the last few years have proven that on both sides of the aisle. I legitimately believe that some people who didn’t even own a Dixie Chicks album bought one just to have one to burn.
Where I do agree with you is that her comments were bad business; first and foremost, don’t piss off your customers. Indeed, some of the more vocal (tractor/burning albums) fans were indeed hicks who, evidently, weren’t emotionally prepared for a musician of minor consequence to disagree with them about the war. You seem to suggest that Maines believed her fans were hicks so situated, so if that’s the case, her statements were bad business. She also probably didn’t figure they’d get any attention this side of the pond (accepting as true that she could have said them here, which isn’t testable), but that’s an error on her part.
We also agree that her statements were designed to ingratiate herself to a more anti-war crowd; that part makes sense, but making the statements under the impression that nobody over here would pick up on it is a miscalculation.
Anyway, she’s still loaded. I can all but guarantee that we’ve spent more time thinking about and discussing her Iraq War statements the last couple days than she has, so who are the losers here?
Don't Tread on Anyone, mothafucka!
How many Okies does it take to hold a country music awards show? Did Toby know? How about Vince Gill? Maybe Carrie Underwood knows. Oh, Reba would definitely know. And so would Garth Brooks, maybe. Roy Clark would know, oh that's right, he's buried in Tulsa. Hoyt Axton and Roger Miller are also dead. I figure we should ask Blake Shelton. Woody Guthrie was an Okie too.
There's over 140 Indian casinos in Oklahoma. I spent a few years off and on cruising them. I drove all over that state. I visited some landmarks.
I went to the site of the Oklahoma City bombing.
Betcha didn't know the Ozarks extend into Oklahoma.
I ate at a little country place owned by Toby Keith called Hollywood Corners between Moore and Norman. He had a ranch in Paul's Valley about 70 miles down I-35 from OKC.
There's a casino in Ada, Oklahoma where Blake Shelton is from.
There's a casino close to Yukon, just west of OKC, where Garth is from. His ex-wife moved with the kids to the Tulsa suburbs so Garth and Tricia moved up there too. Tulsa has several casinos.
I ate at Ole Red's in Tishomingo, owned by Blake Shelton.
Reba has a restaurant in Atoka but I haven't been there yet. There's a casino at Stringtown where she is from. Her parents have a ranch in a secret location.
There's a casino in Checotah where Carrie Underwood is from.
My favorite landmark in Oklahoma was the boyhood home of Mickey Mantle in Commerce. It's a shrine.
Filmed at Ole Red's in Tishomingo:
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Yea real fucking weird. I haven’t had any opinion on Taylor Swift. I don’t care if she’s at football games. All I knew about her was the few songs they played in a loop at the Taj Mahal a decade ago during my manic 24 hour Video Poker sessions. If you have to know….I was going through my Twitter feed and saw the John Rich tweet.
Now I would have to have my head up my fucking ass to not know she’s basically the most famous singer in the world. I also would have to be living under a rock to not know she started as a country artist and is now pop. What you expect out of someone of her stature when a legend in her original genre of music & someone who helped her get her start is at the minimum a canned message posted to her social media. Instead I just see her promoting her next album.
So I personally don’t give two shits what this woman decides to do. But I’m allowed to react to what I see. It’s seems petty af to me. So keep trolling I’m done with you. By your standard we should probably never react to anything we see because it isn’t our business.
Even though you clearly don't care at all here's an olive branch where she congratulates him while alive, simmer down faggot.
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What pisses me off more than anything Sloppy Joe is not that you do what you do. I get that. It’s your deal. But your absolute total lack of any kind of tact or discretion when making your posts. Yesterday you made a shit post right after Hollywood Harry did a fantastic write-up that both posters & lurkers would enjoy.
But when they come to the thread what are the going to see? Your shit fucking post. If you had any sense at all you would let his write-up at least beathe a bit for people to see. But you just shit all over it with your nonsense. That’s what really sucks about you. You can’t help yourself…or more likely, you just don’t care.
BTW I don’t know what point you’re making in her saying something nice 8 years ago. Not that it even fucking matters.
Can you stop crying already, jeff
Wow you are one angry faggot deep in your feelings over this.
I simply pointed out how absurd it is for grown men to take note of whether or not Taylor Swift offers condolences based off of conservative media stoking outrage, which you confirmed is what prompted you to dance like a puppet cuckold.
Wipe away your tears and appreciate precious Taylor congratulating now dead Toby on his accomplishments if it helps you cope. Then kindly chug bleach.
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Harry Hollywood contributed more to this site in his first paragraph than you have in 12 years Joe.
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