Update on Chinamaniac

[sonatine]

Is it true you're looking for people to work with you? I have free time if you are.

Don't need any runners right now. But always looking for partners if we can provide each other value somehow

(Verse 1)
In the heart of the desert, where the cards were cold,
Lived a gambler named Chinamaniac, a story to be told.
He played poker and blackjack, every game in town,
But Lady Luck ignored him, always letting him down.

(Chorus)
Chinamaniac, he was chasing a dream,
In the neon-lit casinos, where the cards gleam.
He couldn't understand why his fortune was thin,
'Til he hired a mariachi band to sing about him.

(Verse 2)
He said, "Mariachis, follow me, and play your songs so loud,
Sing about my victories, make the crowd so proud.
I need your music, your courage, your flair,
To help me conquer this gambling despair."

(Chorus)
Chinamaniac, with his mariachi crew,
He'd walk into the casino, knowing what to do.
With their songs in the air, and his instincts in sight,
He'd win big every time, in the neon casino's light.

(Verse 3)
Now Chinamaniac, he was rolling in dough,
His fortune grew bigger, with every card he'd throw.
The mariachi band played, their guitars strumming high,
As Chinamaniac's legend reached for the sky.

(Chorus)
Chinamaniac, with his mariachi's song,
He proved that with courage, you can't go wrong.
He trusted his instincts, he followed his fate,
And now he's a legend, with riches so great.

(Verse 4)
In the land of the gamblers, his name will live on,
The man who hired mariachis, until his fortune was drawn.
With a heart full of courage, and a band by his side,
Chinamaniac triumphed, in the game of life.

(Chorus)
Chinamaniac, the gambler who dared,
To trust in his instincts, with mariachi's flair.
He won it all, with a smile on his face,
A legend of riches, in this wild gambling race.

[JMM]

To say China is successful at prop betting would be a massive understatement. He got me into it several years ago and the shit just works.

I don't even like talking to people about it too much because it sounds like you're lying. People like that host in the video, and the comments below the video on YouTube are a good example of it. They can't fathom how someone can be winning the way he's winning, so they assume it's fabricated. It's not.

[sonatine]

china if youre short on data science enthusiasts with burly gpus and a good python track record, let me know.

[Daly]

To say China is successful at prop betting would be a massive understatement. He got me into it several years ago and the shit just works.

I don't even like talking to people about it too much because it sounds like you're lying. People like that host in the video, and the comments below the video on YouTube are a good example of it. They can't fathom how someone can be winning the way he's winning, so they assume it's fabricated. It's not.

Ive had people scoff at me over the years as have other people who have dedicated time to beating the books with props. I almost always answer the sane way. “If nobody can beat them why do they cut off anyone or reduce limits”?

Nobody can ever answer that

[sonatine]

respectfully alec baldwin played with props and look what happened to him.

[Dan Druff]

I've been cut off from prop betting just because I copied a few props posted here.

Sad!

[monsterj]

I just can't see how there is enough money doing this to make more than a modest income at best.

Have you been living in a cave?

I have had sports betting ads relentlessly shoved in my face the past 5 years

Not sure your point. There is and was a ton of marketing money thrown at customer acquisitions in this space. I'm specifically talking about getting to where you can comfortably afford a top 5% life style. You might be able to, but I can't imagine it's any less stressful than a 9/5.

[Dan Druff]

Have you been living in a cave?

I have had sports betting ads relentlessly shoved in my face the past 5 years

Not sure your point. There is and was a ton of marketing money thrown at customer acquisitions in this space. I'm specifically talking about getting to where you can comfortably afford a top 5% life style. You might be able to, but I can't imagine it's any less stressful than a 9/5.

A lot of people don't need a top 5% lifestyle. They are happy supporting themselves with a middle class lifestyle plus freedom.

[monsterj]

Not sure your point. There is and was a ton of marketing money thrown at customer acquisitions in this space. I'm specifically talking about getting to where you can comfortably afford a top 5% life style. You might be able to, but I can't imagine it's any less stressful than a 9/5.

A lot of people don't need a top 5% lifestyle. They are happy supporting themselves with a middle class lifestyle plus freedom.

Absolutely true, but I see very little freedom in this lifestyle, the constant shuffling between sketchy locals, risks of getting banned, and dealing with risky runners make this seem like a ton of work and stress. Obviously if you are printing 10k+ week and figured out a way to avoid the pains of the grind, then I totally agree, but I've gotten blocked after a few big weeks or locals taking forever to pay after suspecting you are a sharp. I now no longer try and when I bet I bet log optimal... Huge on the singular best EV play.

[chinamaniac]

china if youre short on data science enthusiasts with burly gpus and a good python track record, let me know.

Will keep you in mind!

[chinamaniac]

Have you been living in a cave?

I have had sports betting ads relentlessly shoved in my face the past 5 years

Not sure your point. There is and was a ton of marketing money thrown at customer acquisitions in this space. I'm specifically talking about getting to where you can comfortably afford a top 5% life style. You might be able to, but I can't imagine it's any less stressful than a 9/5.

Pick your poison pal, I have been doing this on some level for 15 years

And my point is there is basically a free for all going on out there

[chinamaniac]

A lot of people don't need a top 5% lifestyle. They are happy supporting themselves with a middle class lifestyle plus freedom.

Absolutely true, but I see very little freedom in this lifestyle, the constant shuffling between sketchy locals, risks of getting banned, and dealing with risky runners make this seem like a ton of work and stress. Obviously if you are printing 10k+ week and figured out a way to avoid the pains of the grind, then I totally agree, but I've gotten blocked after a few big weeks or locals taking forever to pay after suspecting you are a sharp. I now no longer try and when I bet I bet log optimal... Huge on the singular best EV play.

Again I have been doing this in some capacity or another for 15 years. Sure it has some stresses like any job but a lot of situations repeat themselves and I am prepared for most and if I am not then I can just talk to people who have seen whatever it is I am looking at.

As far as very little freedom LOL. In 2 weeks everything I do will be more or less automated for 6 months.

It has gotten to the point where I have defeated these accounts so quickly I have run the "sketchy locals " way down and now can feast on these fat rich sportsbooks who are still taking good sized bets. And as far as locals who do not pay, you would probably be surprised at how little I have been stolen from compared to net profits. I am def on the way way low end of that spectrum there

And as far as "risky runners" go that is another skill that I have gotten pretty good at over the years finding good people to trust and have had minimal issues and when I have encountered any issues they are usually resolved because I try to work with people with good character.

Not saying this is easy , but the transition from poker to sports went smoothly for me because the poker world prepared me for what I have seen.

[tony bagadonuts]

China was the fuckin' man. He was staking and coaching me in HU Limit Hold Em when Black Friday hit. He was a certified crusher.

I bought shares of China's action back in the day and made profit every single time. China is the man.

[monsterj]

Absolutely true, but I see very little freedom in this lifestyle, the constant shuffling between sketchy locals, risks of getting banned, and dealing with risky runners make this seem like a ton of work and stress. Obviously if you are printing 10k+ week and figured out a way to avoid the pains of the grind, then I totally agree, but I've gotten blocked after a few big weeks or locals taking forever to pay after suspecting you are a sharp. I now no longer try and when I bet I bet log optimal... Huge on the singular best EV play.

Again I have been doing this in some capacity or another for 15 years. Sure it has some stresses like any job but a lot of situations repeat themselves and I am prepared for most and if I am not then I can just talk to people who have seen whatever it is I am looking at.

As far as very little freedom LOL. In 2 weeks everything I do will be more or less automated for 6 months.

It has gotten to the point where I have defeated these accounts so quickly I have run the "sketchy locals " way down and now can feast on these fat rich sportsbooks who are still taking good sized bets. And as far as locals who do not pay, you would probably be surprised at how little I have been stolen from compared to net profits. I am def on the way way low end of that spectrum there

And as far as "risky runners" go that is another skill that I have gotten pretty good at over the years finding good people to trust and have had minimal issues and when I have encountered any issues they are usually resolved because I try to work with people with good character.

Not saying this is easy , but the transition from poker to sports went smoothly for me because the poker world prepared me for what I have seen.

Cheers. You gonna be in Vegas for March Madness?

[tyde]

China is the man

G1ACOMO never forget

Mark doesn’t post here anymore because this site sucks huge cock total -EV proposition to contribute anything on this cesspool

we go way back and I doubt he has anything bad to say about me

would hang again china is a survivor with determination, resolve, and never quits

also Druff nobody gives a fuck about you in this thread just once stop talking about yourself me me me holy shit take a break

unrelated question: do we have any updates on Jake and MJ pretty much the greatest degens of all time ?

asking China

[tyde]

I’d like to retract my statement about this site sucking huge cock

It only sucks medium to large cock

I would insert a fat N bomb but that word has been removed from being allowed here due to peer pressure

props to Druff for allowing a multitude of other racial and homophobic slurs

real talk

[garrett]

I’d like to retract my statement about this site sucking huge cock

It only sucks medium to large cock

I would insert a fat N bomb but that word has been removed from being allowed here due to peer pressure

props to Druff for allowing a multitude of other racial and homophobic slurs

real talk

[tyde]

lol not trolling I swear but its awesome Todd got cucked to cancel N bombs, but you can still fire off kike spic gook faggot and about a dozen other ethnic Karen leftist slurs

peer pressure yall

[gauchojake]

Good update - thanks for sharing. Are you betting offshore at all or only local/onshore legal? Seems like most offshore books outsource their prop markets to one lines maker these days. I suck at props although decent at NFL futures and sides.

[Texter]

I don’t even know what standard prop bets are….sure you hear about stupid shit like the coin flip or Gatorade color during the Super Bowl but that’s about it.