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    The two black teens who broke Math

    Back in March the news was full of two teenage girls from New Orleans who had supposedly done the impossible: proved Pythagoras's theorem through trigonometry. There are many ways to prove Pythagoras's theorem from fundamental principles, mostly involving similar triangles, but you can't prove it "from trigonometry" because trigonometry - in the mathematical sense of the word - is derived from more fundamental results, including Pythagoras.

    I waited for the proof to be revealed as bogus ... and waited ... and waited. The refutation never came. Of course there's a simple explanation as to why not: the girls, Calcea Johnson and Ne’Kiya Jackson, are black. Even now, googling the story reveals no dissenting voices. Their proof has never been published and is not available online, which of course is a huge red flag. A few mathematicians were asked to comment but they wisely said they'd have to see the proof published first. Right now they could practically claim 2 + 2 = 5 and not get called out on it.

    So what did they do? Their proof has been reverse engineered from an image of a slide from a talk they gave. Basically they constructed an infinite series of triangles bolted onto the original whose total area converges to the expected answer. However this proof is invalid for a number of reasons. In formal logic a proof is a set of finite deductions from axioms. Translated into geometry this means any construction must have a finite number of steps. You can't have an infinite constructive proof. Furthermore in order to prove the convergence correct you need to invent a huge amount of theory on limits which comes from analysis. It's completely out of the domain of geometry.

     
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    wow guess this proves that only black people are shady, good job

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShawnFanningsLimpDick View Post
    Back in March the news was full of two teenage girls from New Orleans who had supposedly done the impossible: proved Pythagoras's theorem through trigonometry. There are many ways to prove Pythagoras's theorem from fundamental principles, mostly involving similar triangles, but you can't prove it "from trigonometry" because trigonometry - in the mathematical sense of the word - is derived from more fundamental results, including Pythagoras.

    I waited for the proof to be revealed as bogus ... and waited ... and waited. The refutation never came. Of course there's a simple explanation as to why not: the girls, Calcea Johnson and Ne’Kiya Jackson, are black. Even now, googling the story reveals no dissenting voices. Their proof has never been published and is not available online, which of course is a huge red flag. A few mathematicians were asked to comment but they wisely said they'd have to see the proof published first. Right now they could practically claim 2 + 2 = 5 and not get called out on it.

    So what did they do? Their proof has been reverse engineered from an image of a slide from a talk they gave. Basically they constructed an infinite series of triangles bolted onto the original whose total area converges to the expected answer. However this proof is invalid for a number of reasons. In formal logic a proof is a set of finite deductions from axioms. Translated into geometry this means any construction must have a finite number of steps. You can't have an infinite constructive proof. Furthermore in order to prove the convergence correct you need to invent a huge amount of theory on limits which comes from analysis. It's completely out of the domain of geometry.
    "Even now, googling the story reveals no dissenting voices."

    You need a new browser. This story is all over the internet, and there are plenty of people challenging the validity of the "proof."
    YOU, however, are the only one I've seen bringing race into the discussion. On either side. You might take a cue from the mathematicians who are waiting for further developments rather than immediately branding the supposed discovery as "bogus."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbodoggins View Post
    You need a new browser. This story is all over the internet, and there are plenty of people challenging the validity of the "proof."
    YOU, however, are the only one I've seen bringing race into the discussion. On either side. You might take a cue from the mathematicians who are waiting for further developments rather than immediately branding the supposed discovery as "bogus."
    There are plenty of people on reddit but I've not seen any professional mathematician criticise the proof even though they all know it's nonsense. They're scared to because they know they'd be accused of racism. As for waiting, it's been 9 months! Why do we need to wait at all to see this wonderful new proof? They could post a preprint even if they were waiting for publication.

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    "In 196 schools in the Baltimore region — including a handful in high-performing districts such as Howard and Carroll counties — less than 5% of students passed the math test in at least one grade. In Baltimore City, some schools with large numbers of low-income families had fewer than 5% of students passing the math test in any grade."

    https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/e...%20any%20grade.


    "In 23 Baltimore City Schools, zero students tested proficient in math in 2022, according to a report by Project Baltimore."
    https://dailycaller.com/2023/02/10/n...chools-report/

     
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    sounds like these girls dindu nuffin

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    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...orem_C-K_Shene

    Sounds like it is legit and the original theory was already disproven by Zimba (they just found another way).

    https://www.cut-the-knot.org/pythagoras/TrigProof.shtml

    https://thatsmaths.com/2023/06/01/th...goras-theorem/
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    Change thread title to 2 black youths that do meth.

     
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