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    Let’s do this Gut!

    Tribe still without a day off. 8 straight. Lopez is tough. Don’t love our shot.

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    Remember how the Marlins were thought to possibly be wildcard contenders?

    They're 0-8. And they haven't exactly lost to great teams -- mostly Pittsburgh and St. Louis. Ouch.

    Yes, they started without Eury Perez, Braxton Garrett and Edward Cabrera, but they've just been really bad.



    I went to the Dodgers game on Wednesday night. Took Ben. It was Dodgers hoodie night and he wanted one. Somehow they always fuck up their promotions. This year we got the hoodies, but they only had XL size left. Apparently they had two sizes -- XL and Medium, and they under-ordered the medium.

    I still don't see why they limit these items to the first 40,000 fans when they're expecting 50,000 (and 50,000 couldn't get in on time anyway, due to traffic).

    Pretty interesting game, was never a blowout, Dodgers never trailed, but also were within 1 run most of the game. We got to see Ohtani's first HR as a Dodger, which I actually called before it happened on a 3-1 count.

    Dodgers offense is going to crush it during the regular season. Top 6 in lineup are Betts, Ohtani, Freeman, Will Smith, Teoscar Hernandez, and Muncy. They haven't scored fewer than 5 runs in any of their first 9 games.

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    Druff, please remove the link I PM'd you about.
    POKER FAG ALERT! FOR BLOW JOB SEE SLOPPY JOE THE TRANNIE HO.

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    any thoughts about the ohtani home run ball scandal that occurred during your game druff?

    completely inept.

    how will we, as a dodgers staff, handle the first ohtani homerun? the Ohtani HR odds were so remote i guess it wasn’t worth considering.

    how does a team implode their greatest entertainment asset’s reputation in 30 days? this is how

    fail

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    any thoughts about the ohtani home run ball scandal that occurred during your game druff?

    completely inept.

    how will we, as a dodgers staff, handle the first ohtani homerun? the Ohtani HR odds were so remote i guess it wasn’t worth considering.

    how does a team implode their greatest entertainment asset’s reputation in 30 days? this is how

    fail
    Ohtani taking a heel turn is surprising.

    Dodger corporate thugs cornering some poor fan to give a $100k ball back for a few signed jerseys.

    Ohtani lying once again about the situation.

    Kid is going to be playing for the Yomiuri Giants just to avoid American media and the feds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    any thoughts about the ohtani home run ball scandal that occurred during your game druff?

    completely inept.

    how will we, as a dodgers staff, handle the first ohtani homerun? the Ohtani HR odds were so remote i guess it wasn’t worth considering.

    how does a team implode their greatest entertainment asset’s reputation in 30 days? this is how

    fail
    Funny I didn't even think about the ball until the story about the woman catching it was put out there. At the time I read about it, the spun it as a positive that the woman got to meet Ohtani and get a few balls and caps. I thought to myself, "Wow, I wouldn't have given it up for that. Maayyyyyybe if Ohtani turned me on to a bookie willing to take sharp action, and vouched for me..."

    At the time I just thought about how it was cool that Ben got to see Ohtani's first Dodgers HR. He also got to see the longest game every played at Dodger Stadium (and the longest postseeason game ever), the 18-inning, 7.5 hour marathon in the 2018 World Series.

    Anyway, back to this drama.

    Here's the story, in case you haven't read it yet: https://sports.yahoo.com/dodgers-cou...001841654.html

    Here's the more detailed Athletic article: https://archive.ph/iZHpx


    This was mishandled in so many ways:

    - The team separated the woman from her husband, and kept browbeating her into giving it up in exchange for 2 hats. Security physically blocked her husband from reaching her.

    - The team threatened to refuse to authenticate the ball if they left with it, thus making it worthless.

    - They never got to meet nor speak to Ohtani

    - They upper the offer to two hats, a signed bat, and a signed ball. No money, nothing else.

    - Ohtani said in an interview, "I was able to talk to the fan, and was able to get it back. Obviously it’s a very special ball, a lot of feelings toward it, I’m very grateful that it’s back." This was either a lie, or a poor translation. It's possible that he said, "They were able to talk to the fan and get it back for me", and it was mis-translated, but it's also possible that Ohtani was caught lying again.

    - The Dodgers promised to escort the couple to their car, so nobody would hassle them or attempt to mug them for the ball they didn't have anymore. The Dodgers ended up failing to do this, for whatever reason.


    The stupid thing here is that Ohtani gave a new car to Joe Kelly in exchange for giving up #17. Joe Kelly doesn't need a car. He's already rich. He's still pitching for the Dodgers.

    Imagine the great PR if he gave a car to these lifelong Dodgers fans?

    Since the bad press, the Dodgers are now inviting the couple back to see a free game, where they'll be given more "valuable memorabilia". How about breaking off $20k for them and being done with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    The stupid thing here is that Ohtani gave a new car to Joe Kelly in exchange for giving up #17. Joe Kelly doesn't need a car. He's already rich. He's still pitching for the Dodgers.

    Imagine the great PR if he gave a car to these lifelong Dodgers fans?

    Since the bad press, the Dodgers are now inviting the couple back to see a free game, where they'll be given more "valuable memorabilia". How about breaking off $20k for them and being done with it?
    Cars and Prada purses will not mend this controversy.

    You give the woman the fair value for the ball as determined by the memorabilia community. And then you add to that. $100,000 is frequently referenced as fair value.

    Then the Dodgers profusely apologize and maintain absolute truthfulness in this matter.

    Maybe Ohtani’s statement was another interpreter fuck up. Who knows. Excuses and silence damage the brand which is valued at billions.

    Instead silence.

    David Samson has been a consistent Andrew Friedman apologist. Nevertheless, I found his segment on the HR scandal to be very informative and valuable. Samson’s friendship with Friedman is being sorely tested again. He describes this latest fail as Dodger “idiocy”…. and he likes them.

    Great listen on Nothing Personal. Dodgers begins @ 17:30. Samson’s brand of boring gritty autistic detail actually has value in this instance. I learned a lot and got some great insight into how a competent organization handles these events.




    Samson starts out strong on Rich Eisen’s show but it predictably devolves into Rich Eisen’s level of dopiness.





    My Ohtani bona fides are well chronicled on this forum. ROY winning future. My feeling that he was just short of a playoff performance or two to cement “greatest to ever play the game”. I take no joy in what the Dodgers experience is doing to him. I want to feel i saw the best that ever was.

    There is a tiny part of me that feels his greatness will be unrealized.

    We can discuss Bobby Miller if you like. Bobby Miller NOT TO RECORD A WIN against Cubs today was a chalky -155 parlay piece. Smooth as silk ✅. Lest you think Im just autofading all Dodgers starters i did have Glasnow to record a win the other day.

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    Yamamoto tomorrow is gonna require meditation.

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    I gotta ask.

    Does anyone know the David Samson childhood trauma details? He was bullied. He was a short Jew. Was that why? Product of divorce. I feel like there is more

    No one in baseball seems to like him despite winning a ring. Derek Jeter gave him the bum’s rush.

    Samson obviously has issues. He’s a different cat. Is he a sympathetic figure? I can’t decide

    He does demonstrate some social conscience and is charitable with his time and money.

    He is hard to cypher.

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    Bieber to have season ending elbow surgery after 2 perfect outings where he hasn’t given up a run and struck out 20. Looked better than ever. Feels like a fuck you to Tribe heading into UFA. He’s pitched his last pitch for us. Brutal. Don’t blame him assuming they wanted him to pitch through. Dude has hundreds of millions to protect.

    Worst part is he’ll be pitching for the Dodgers next year. OC kid with some SoCal instagram whore wife. Might as well throw him on the pile for another 40 million.
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    I just deleted a post here.

    Please do NOT troll in this thread or any other serious threads on PFA.

    If you see a long-running, one-subject thread on this site, it's a good idea to avoid trolling or shitposting in it. I guess political threads are the exception because those always break down into trolling. But a thread like this should be free of that stuff.

    Thank you.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    any thoughts about the ohtani home run ball scandal that occurred during your game druff?

    completely inept.

    how will we, as a dodgers staff, handle the first ohtani homerun? the Ohtani HR odds were so remote i guess it wasn’t worth considering.

    how does a team implode their greatest entertainment asset’s reputation in 30 days? this is how

    fail
    Funny I didn't even think about the ball until the story about the woman catching it was put out there. At the time I read about it, the spun it as a positive that the woman got to meet Ohtani and get a few balls and caps. I thought to myself, "Wow, I wouldn't have given it up for that. Maayyyyyybe if Ohtani turned me on to a bookie willing to take sharp action, and vouched for me..."

    At the time I just thought about how it was cool that Ben got to see Ohtani's first Dodgers HR. He also got to see the longest game every played at Dodger Stadium (and the longest postseeason game ever), the 18-inning, 7.5 hour marathon in the 2018 World Series.

    Anyway, back to this drama.

    Here's the story, in case you haven't read it yet: https://sports.yahoo.com/dodgers-cou...001841654.html

    Here's the more detailed Athletic article: https://archive.ph/iZHpx


    This was mishandled in so many ways:

    - The team separated the woman from her husband, and kept browbeating her into giving it up in exchange for 2 hats. Security physically blocked her husband from reaching her.

    - The team threatened to refuse to authenticate the ball if they left with it, thus making it worthless.

    - They never got to meet nor speak to Ohtani

    - They upper the offer to two hats, a signed bat, and a signed ball. No money, nothing else.

    - Ohtani said in an interview, "I was able to talk to the fan, and was able to get it back. Obviously it’s a very special ball, a lot of feelings toward it, I’m very grateful that it’s back." This was either a lie, or a poor translation. It's possible that he said, "They were able to talk to the fan and get it back for me", and it was mis-translated, but it's also possible that Ohtani was caught lying again.

    - The Dodgers promised to escort the couple to their car, so nobody would hassle them or attempt to mug them for the ball they didn't have anymore. The Dodgers ended up failing to do this, for whatever reason.


    The stupid thing here is that Ohtani gave a new car to Joe Kelly in exchange for giving up #17. Joe Kelly doesn't need a car. He's already rich. He's still pitching for the Dodgers.

    Imagine the great PR if he gave a car to these lifelong Dodgers fans?

    Since the bad press, the Dodgers are now inviting the couple back to see a free game, where they'll be given more "valuable memorabilia". How about breaking off $20k for them and being done with it?

    We’ve seen this before.

    Girls who knew Bauer here say he was a perfect gentleman. Brought flowers. Cooked them breakfast in the morning. Texted them to make sure they got home safe.

    Strictly a missionary position guy then. They described him as a straight arrow and rather vanilla. Almost boring.

    Didn’t take the Dodgers and your Hollywood elite fanbase long to turn him into Hannibal Lecter.

    I fear for Ohtani. He seems in a quicker descent than even Trevor.

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    Braves about to lose Spencer Strider to Tommy John also. Reports he got injured in their home opener against the Dbacks. MRI today showed bad bad news with signficant UCL injury and looking like surgery is going to be the realistic outcome.

    Side note What the HELL is going on with Arizona. Three straight losses after taking decent leads in all those games. 3 runs yesterday and blew it in extras. But tonight was so much worse. Marte hits second straight lead off HR again. They put up 6 runs and lose the game 9-8 after having the lead up until Atl tied and took it in the Bottom of the 8th. This is the same team that scored the most runs in an inning on opening day in 100yrs against Colorado. I know the Rockies suck but this is a small concern early on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftpjesus View Post
    Braves about to lose Spencer Strider to Tommy John also. Reports he got injured in their home opener against the Dbacks. MRI today showed bad bad news with signficant UCL injury and looking like surgery is going to be the realistic outcome.

    Side note What the HELL is going on with Arizona. Three straight losses after taking decent leads in all those games. 3 runs yesterday and blew it in extras. But tonight was so much worse. Marte hits second straight lead off HR again. They put up 6 runs and lose the game 9-8 after having the lead up until Atl tied and took it in the Bottom of the 8th. This is the same team that scored the most runs in an inning on opening day in 100yrs against Colorado. I know the Rockies suck but this is a small concern early on.



    I don't even really look at teams w-l record til like 50 games in. Unless its some crazy streak or something.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Bieber to have season ending elbow surgery after 2 perfect outings where he hasn’t given up a run and struck out 20. Looked better than ever. Feels like a fuck you to Tribe heading into UFA. He’s pitched his last pitch for us. Brutal. Don’t blame him assuming they wanted him to pitch through. Dude has hundreds of millions to protect.

    Worst part is he’ll be pitching for the Dodgers next year. OC kid with some SoCal instagram whore wife. Might as well throw him on the pile for another 40 million.
    Was reading an article about coaching recently, but it included a funny anecdote from a pitching coach that applies here. Unhappy pitcher? Go nuclear and just say "my arm hurts".

     
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    Care to enlighten me about wtf occurred here or this [redacted]?

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    Take away trolling Dodgers, Trump and trannies and what have we left really?


    Cubs Imanaga, nicknamed "The Throwing Philosopher" vs Dodgers Stone.

    Dodgers are the most public team in the modern era yet the betting public had this as -115 Dodgers. Essentially a pick em considering the juice in legal books.

    The betting public are not as dumb as some dismiss

    You wanna isolate The Philosopher vs Stone F5 but the attitude is right. We rue the passing of the Golden Age

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Care to enlighten me about wtf occurred here or this [redacted]?

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    Take away trolling Dodgers, Trump and trannies and what have we left really?


    Cubs Imanaga, nicknamed "The Throwing Philosopher" vs Dodgers Stone.

    Dodgers are the most public team in the modern era yet the betting public had this as -115 Dodgers. Essentially a pick em considering the juice in legal books.

    The betting public are not as dumb as some dismiss

    You wanna isolate The Philosopher vs Stone F5 but the attitude is right. We rue the passing of the Golden Age

    I’m curious also. Mickey was having a sundowners episode/tantrum in a number of threads over Druff not being his editor in prompt fashion and attacking sloppy Joe with his usual really bad and unimaginative insults. He’s just so bad at the internet. Sloppy is a wordsmith when he gets into you, and you’d think after hundreds of beatings, Mickey would get that. But he doesn’t. I think he may actually believe he’s holding his own.


    See the bottom of the NBA thread for example.

    I was shocked to see Mickey had posted in a sports thread given old predators usually just fuck rent boys and pass them around like a joint at an Aerosmith concert in 79, they don't take the time to throw the ball around with them. I’ve never seen him comment on sports like men do. He wasn’t talking sports though.

    It may have been something similar here, but sloppy posts less in MLB, so I’m curious myself.

     
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    Sanlmar and The Philosopher’s Stone.

    4th inning (delay)
    Cubs 6
    Dodgers 0

    nvm

    Please delete, Druff

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    I guess I need to clarify the trolling rule in this thread.

    If you want to troll about baseball related matters, go right ahead. If you want to bash the Dodgers, or its fans, or its management, or any other team you want to make fun of, go right ahead.

    I just don't want to see unrelated-to-baseball trolling here, spilling over from other feuds on the site.

    Yes, it was mickeycrimm making a nasty remark to BCR. Had nothing to do with sports or baseball. It was just a one-liner.

    I don't want to see this thread turn into mickeycrimm-bashing, either. If you don't like him, you can do that in other threads where he posts.

    I would just like this to get back on topic -- MLB.

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    I don't understand the Dodgers' love affair with Gavin Stone.

    He had a brief moment in AA in 2022 where he was owning heads.

    But since then, he hasn't been good. They gave him 31 innings in MLB in 2023, where he gave up... 31 earned runs.

    Now he's the 5th starter, and he's gotten clobbered both times.

    I understand that he's not going to be around the entire year. Walker Buehler is coming back fairly soon. Later in the year, they'll get back Kershaw and Dustin May. It will be crowded at that point, even if everyone stays healthy, which is a big if.

    But I think it's time to cut bait with Stone, and give some other guys the chance in the interim.

    BTW, the Dodgers scored 5+ runs in each of their first 10 games. Amazingly, they only went 7-3, and two of the losses were games where they scored 7 and 11 runs. Ouch.

    Inconsistent pitching and excellent hitting -- the story from 2023 -- seems to be coming back.

    On the bright side, Yoshi Yamamato had two good starts in a row, and Glasnow is looking fairly good, albeit getting gassed kinda early in games.

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    I don’t understand the love affair with Bobby Miller but we digress.

    Ohtani, Graterol, May, Sheehan, Buehler, Treinen, Gonsolin, (Kershaw sic)

    It’s quite a list of injured pitchers. The Dodgers are noted for not being very truthful about pitcher injuries. The injury description morphs over time. We have no firm idea about any of them. I’m not covinced Dave Roberts knows either.

    Even Ohtani’s injury is not clear. The basics might include, “what exact medical procedure was performed?” We won’t be told until he suffers a setback

    The only pitcher that is of consequence is Buehler. He was their #1 2 or 3 years ago. 2nd TJ. He’ll be hugley restricted. Is he 93/94 mph? He may not make it. I have zero faith in Pryor. He is a problem not a solution.

    Bieber and Strider hurts every fan’s heart. It really causes us to ask what needs to be changed. Dodgers and the 6 day rotation feels right during a meaningless season. Allow max effort players to recover. Couple guys come back like May and Gonsolin and you use them in an opener deal instead of Stone.

    Dodgers have bigger fish to fry like defense and hitting against lefties.

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