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    Glenn Youngkin is doing it right

    The 2020s Republican Party hit its peak in November 2021. Glenn Youngkin walloped Terry McAuliffe in a surprise blowout victory for the governor's mansion, and Republicans around the country enjoyed either unexpected victories or narrow defeats where Democrats were supposed to easily win.

    2022 was supposed to be even better until.... it wasn't. The GOP screwed it up and lost the momentum, largely due to the whole abortion mess.

    However, Glenn Youngkin still had to govern, and he's quietly done a very good job. He's accomplished most of what he promised, and he's remained popular in a state which is becoming bluer each year.

    There's even some talk that the GOP might take all Virginia state houses this election, which would be shocking given the fact that Republican Presidential nominees no longer have much of a chance there.

    Here's a very good article about Youngkin and his time as Virginia governor: https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%...republicans%2F


    Democrats also have a hard time countering him. He's like a more focused and less gimmicky Desantis. He takes common sense positions with a lot of issues where the left is weak with independent voters and moderate Democrats, hammers them hard, and gets legislation passed to counter them.

    At the same time, he stays moderate on matters like abortion (he supports it up to 15 weeks unless rape, incest, or the mother's life is in danger), and does not get caught up in manufactured stunts or controversies.

    He's stayed strong on the parental rights train, something Virginia Democrats royally screwed up when they took a "government and school administrators know best" attitude regarding school policies and controversial subject matter. This is a winning issue for Republicans, and they should continue hammering it without attempting to get too flashy or extreme. Democrats will not win if forced to defend schools hiding gender transitions from parents, putting boys in girls' sports and locker rooms, or putting pornographic books in school libraries.

    Youngkin even dedicated $30 million in funds to address pandemic learning loss -- another issue which Democrats are often afraid to address, as it raises questions regarding their controversial 2020-21 school shutdowns.

    And from an electoral standpoint, Youngkin's people have organized strong early mail-in vote efforts -- something many other Republicans have been reluctant to do, despite its clear necessity to win close elections these days.

    Youngkin doesn't seem to be a fluke. He did win primarily because McAuliffe and the Virginia Democrats couldn't stop stepping on their own feet, and was fortunate to get a big boost from the entire Loudon County school board debacle. However, his campaign and governing really should be a blueprint for the modern GOP -- how they can win elections simply by operating on a common-sense agenda which appeals to moderate voters, even in hostile territory.

    He won't run in 2024, but it will be interesting to see if he is a contender to become President in 2028.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    The 2020s Republican Party hit its peak in November 2021. Glenn Youngkin walloped Terry McAuliffe in a surprise blowout victory for the governor's mansion, and Republicans around the country enjoyed either unexpected victories or narrow defeats where Democrats were supposed to easily win.

    2022 was supposed to be even better until.... it wasn't. The GOP screwed it up and lost the momentum, largely due to the whole abortion mess.

    However, Glenn Youngkin still had to govern, and he's quietly done a very good job. He's accomplished most of what he promised, and he's remained popular in a state which is becoming bluer each year.

    There's even some talk that the GOP might take all Virginia state houses this election, which would be shocking given the fact that Republican Presidential nominees no longer have much of a chance there.

    Here's a very good article about Youngkin and his time as Virginia governor: https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%...republicans%2F


    Democrats also have a hard time countering him. He's like a more focused and less gimmicky Desantis. He takes common sense positions with a lot of issues where the left is weak with independent voters and moderate Democrats, hammers them hard, and gets legislation passed to counter them.

    At the same time, he stays moderate on matters like abortion (he supports it up to 15 weeks unless rape, incest, or the mother's life is in danger), and does not get caught up in manufactured stunts or controversies.

    He's stayed strong on the parental rights train, something Virginia Democrats royally screwed up when they took a "government and school administrators know best" attitude regarding school policies and controversial subject matter. This is a winning issue for Republicans, and they should continue hammering it without attempting to get too flashy or extreme. Democrats will not win if forced to defend schools hiding gender transitions from parents, putting boys in girls' sports and locker rooms, or putting pornographic books in school libraries.

    Youngkin even dedicated $30 million in funds to address pandemic learning loss -- another issue which Democrats are often afraid to address, as it raises questions regarding their controversial 2020-21 school shutdowns.

    And from an electoral standpoint, Youngkin's people have organized strong early mail-in vote efforts -- something many other Republicans have been reluctant to do, despite its clear necessity to win close elections these days.

    Youngkin doesn't seem to be a fluke. He did win primarily because McAuliffe and the Virginia Democrats couldn't stop stepping on their own feet, and was fortunate to get a big boost from the entire Loudon County school board debacle. However, his campaign and governing really should be a blueprint for the modern GOP -- how they can win elections simply by operating on a common-sense agenda which appeals to moderate voters, even in hostile territory.

    He won't run in 2024, but it will be interesting to see if he is a contender to become President in 2028.
    The only part of VA getting bluer is the DC metro suburbs. State is still primarily red. Problem is people moving from Maryland to VA due to the increasing tax rates in Maryland (who has not just State but local income tax). I keep saying they need to just let the Northern VA suburbs be handed to Maryland and solve the problem.

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    He sounds all right.

    Virginia is none of my concern, but should he eventually run for POTUS, I will investigate your claims more deeply and would consider voting for him if they are substantially accurate.

    Of course, given that you are the one making the claims (Dan Druff), I expect that they would be substantially accurate.
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    I like him more than any of the clowns from last night.

    Druff's sweetheart Nimrata came off fine but lol at GOP voters going for a minority woman.
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    have you ever considered that the reason repubs lost bigly is because your party policies are fucking retarded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunbeater View Post
    have you ever considered that the reason repubs lost bigly is because your party policies are fucking retarded?
    Both sides policies are dumb AF.

    Can some just bring back the common sense party.

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    I think Youngkin didn't run in 2024 because he wanted to establish himself better as a successful governor before jumping to run for President 2 years after his unexpected Virginia win.

    I think he also figured that DeSantis was the alternative to Trump, and he didn't want any part of battling it out with either of them, especially Trump.

    Youngkin still has some time. He's 56 now, and will be almost 58 on election day 2024. Even if he waits until 2032, he's only 65 on election day, and he'd be 61 in 2028.

    There's no doubt he has Presidential aspirations, and he might just get there. The GOP is very high on him at the moment, as DeSantis is just not clicking on a national stage like originally assumed.

    Youngkin has been very good at cutting through the gaslighting by Democrats regarding their various extreme positions. The gaslighting usually goes like this:

    - We don't support extreme position Z. That's right wing misinformation.
    ...
    - Well, yes, we support Z, but the right is twisting the facts and making it sound evil, when we are just fighting for the rights of the victim classes.
    ...
    - Sure we support Z. But it isn't even happening anywhere, so this is a pointless distraction manufactured by right wing talking heads.
    ...
    - Z is happening in a few places and we support it. It's not a big deal. You're a bigot if you oppose it.
    ...
    - Z is normal, so of course we support it, and always have. But why does it matter what other people do? You're just trying to distract from the GOP's failed record on major issues.


    The Republican politicians who cut through this nonsense and force Democrats to answer common sense questions about their positions will be the politicians who win. That's what Youngkin did in 2021.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunbeater View Post
    have you ever considered that the reason repubs lost bigly is because your party policies are fucking retarded?
    Yes, republicans are retarded. Democrats have brought high mortgage rates, record inflation, mass business failure, high crime, and homelessness in every district they control. You're right, nunbeater. Republicans are just to stupid to do the same thing. Get 'em, nunbeater. I'm sure you'll be voting for more of the same.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nunbeater View Post
    have you ever considered that the reason repubs lost bigly is because your party policies are fucking retarded?
    Yes, republicans are retarded. Democrats have brought high mortgage rates, record inflation, mass business failure, high crime, and homelessness in every district they control. You're right, nunbeater. Republicans are just to stupid to do the same thing. Get 'em, nunbeater. I'm sure you'll be voting for more of the same.
    So democrats are responsible for high mortgage rates eh? Please enlighten us plebeians on how that is so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    Yes, republicans are retarded. Democrats have brought high mortgage rates, record inflation, mass business failure, high crime, and homelessness in every district they control. You're right, nunbeater. Republicans are just to stupid to do the same thing. Get 'em, nunbeater. I'm sure you'll be voting for more of the same.
    So democrats are responsible for high mortgage rates eh? Please enlighten us plebeians on how that is so.
    By every account from every neutral economist the last 1.9 Trillion dollar Covid bill which was completely unnecessary, created this wave of inflation we are in, causing the Fed to raise in dramatic fashion internet rates. Then on top of it you get the "Inflation Reduction Act" which is loaded with climate change shit, exacerbated the problem. I know Tony you want to blame Trump for everything, you have become a victim, but this one is 100% on the Dems and Biden.

    Hey question, how did your boy Biden become so rich on a public servant salary?

    Extreme Never Trumpism is a Mental Disorder.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts View Post

    So democrats are responsible for high mortgage rates eh? Please enlighten us plebeians on how that is so.
    By every account from every neutral economist the last 1.9 Trillion dollar Covid bill which was completely unnecessary, created this wave of inflation we are in, causing the Fed to raise in dramatic fashion internet rates. Then on top of it you get the "Inflation Reduction Act" which is loaded with climate change shit, exacerbated the problem. I know Tony you want to blame Trump for everything, you have become a victim, but this one is 100% on the Dems and Biden.

    Hey question, how did your boy Biden become so rich on a public servant salary?

    Extreme Never Trumpism is a Mental Disorder.
    Hey stupid, president's don't cause inflation whether they are D or R. Your takes are frankly terrible. It's not on Biden and it's not on Trump.

    Inflation happens, and in this case it's mostly due to the supply chain issues that permeated 2021 and into 2022. It has remained sticky due to the debt downgrade that happened in August.

    Sorry bro, but you don't know shit about shit. A lot of paper was printed under Trump and Biden but that's not really the cause. Keep at it junior, you'll get it eventually.

    FTR I can't stand Joe Biden and want nothing more than to see him out. But i won't vote for a traitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post

    By every account from every neutral economist the last 1.9 Trillion dollar Covid bill which was completely unnecessary, created this wave of inflation we are in, causing the Fed to raise in dramatic fashion internet rates. Then on top of it you get the "Inflation Reduction Act" which is loaded with climate change shit, exacerbated the problem. I know Tony you want to blame Trump for everything, you have become a victim, but this one is 100% on the Dems and Biden.

    Hey question, how did your boy Biden become so rich on a public servant salary?

    Extreme Never Trumpism is a Mental Disorder.
    Hey stupid, president's don't cause inflation whether they are D or R. Your takes are frankly terrible. It's not on Biden and it's not on Trump.

    Inflation happens, and in this case it's mostly due to the supply chain issues that permeated 2021 and into 2022. It has remained sticky due to the debt downgrade that happened in August.

    Sorry bro, but you don't know shit about shit. A lot of paper was printed under Trump and Biden but that's not really the cause. Keep at it junior, you'll get it eventually.

    FTR I can't stand Joe Biden and want nothing more than to see him out. But i won't vote for a traitor.
    The inflation was much more a result of the money blown into the economy than the supply chain issues.

    The first round of payments made sense, as the government force-closed businesses. (The pandemic relief program for businesses, though, was a tremendous fail and was defrauded to a major extent.)

    The last round of payments was just Democrats pandering, and that's the biggest culprit for the current inflation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post

    By every account from every neutral economist the last 1.9 Trillion dollar Covid bill which was completely unnecessary, created this wave of inflation we are in, causing the Fed to raise in dramatic fashion internet rates. Then on top of it you get the "Inflation Reduction Act" which is loaded with climate change shit, exacerbated the problem. I know Tony you want to blame Trump for everything, you have become a victim, but this one is 100% on the Dems and Biden.

    Hey question, how did your boy Biden become so rich on a public servant salary?

    Extreme Never Trumpism is a Mental Disorder.
    Hey stupid, president's don't cause inflation whether they are D or R. Your takes are frankly terrible. It's not on Biden and it's not on Trump.

    Inflation happens, and in this case it's mostly due to the supply chain issues that permeated 2021 and into 2022. It has remained sticky due to the debt downgrade that happened in August.

    Sorry bro, but you don't know shit about shit. A lot of paper was printed under Trump and Biden but that's not really the cause. Keep at it junior, you'll get it eventually.

    FTR I can't stand Joe Biden and want nothing more than to see him out. But i won't vote for a traitor.
    Where is Devidee when you need him?

    Inflation might not be D or R, but there is a J in between those two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts View Post

    Hey stupid, president's don't cause inflation whether they are D or R. Your takes are frankly terrible. It's not on Biden and it's not on Trump.

    Inflation happens, and in this case it's mostly due to the supply chain issues that permeated 2021 and into 2022. It has remained sticky due to the debt downgrade that happened in August.

    Sorry bro, but you don't know shit about shit. A lot of paper was printed under Trump and Biden but that's not really the cause. Keep at it junior, you'll get it eventually.

    FTR I can't stand Joe Biden and want nothing more than to see him out. But i won't vote for a traitor.
    The inflation was much more a result of the money blown into the economy than the supply chain issues.

    The first round of payments made sense, as the government force-closed businesses. (The pandemic relief program for businesses, though, was a tremendous fail and was defrauded to a major extent.)

    The last round of payments was just Democrats pandering, and that's the biggest culprit for the current inflation.
    That is spot on. Hard to believe Dems and RINOS like Tony can't grasp the fact of a simple concept: Too much money chasing too few goods. Yes supply chain caused the initial wave, but the systemic reason now is there is too much money in the system. Many Dems now revert to talking points this is all related to Covid, like they do for everything.

    As far as Trump being a traitor, guys like Tony crack me up. For the first 2 years of the Trump administration, the Dems literally made up this Russion collusion hoax, it was created by the left and when it turned out to me made completely up, the left and media just acted like it never happened. But that is just politics, got it.

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