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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    I'm going with he didn't actually cheat but is well aware that he's making it look like he cheats. Obviously it gets into his opponent's heads. Guy might be a genius.


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    I don’t make much of the lawsuit. He drew so much heat and attention that he had to know he was going to get barred from some casinos and had to go on offense. What I don’t get is how he makes these impressions that apparently no one else in the world can see from any angle?

    Cards hitting the light a certain direction as Polk said or whatever, someone would be able to point it out unless he’s wearing some special contact lenses or he has the greatest vision alive.

    Seems on the spectrum or whatever.

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    Look pal of course the lawsuits not going anywhere.

    Brother if you really mean business your lawyer doesn’t announce the lawsuit on twitter. Clicked to his account for a minute, wouldn’t want a lawyer with a twitter account like that

    Nicky Pipes lawyer does not use twitter.

     
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    So, Pipes is both right and wrong. Right in that the lawsuit is D.O.A. Truth is a defense, and the videos are enough to reasonably make you think he was cheating. No Jury is going to see those videos and rule for Plaintiff. Wrong in that Twitter is an effective means of intimidating others to keep from giving their opinion on the matter. People will be afraid of saying anything for fear of being sued.

    Again, I don't think he was cheating, just angle shooting and intimidation. If he was going to mark cards, he would be more discrete. Plus, they have never found a marked deck.
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    Dude is on camera breaking a stated rule, so any lawsuit becomes pretty lol ... he was actually entertaining outside the marking stuff

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    Gotta keep the tables a safe space while trying to take all the money.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickyPipes View Post
    Look pal of course the lawsuits not going anywhere.

    Brother if you really mean business your lawyer doesn’t announce the lawsuit on twitter. Clicked to his account for a minute, wouldn’t want a lawyer with a twitter account like that

    Nicky Pipes lawyer does not use twitter.
    Dunno if you saw Druffs twitter posting. Lawyer has a one of those fake office addresses like at a UPS Store situation.. ROFLMAO.. Wonder if this lawyer is about as real as Postles lawyers were

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerveza Fria View Post
    So, Pipes is both right and wrong. Right in that the lawsuit is D.O.A. Truth is a defense, and the videos are enough to reasonably make you think he was cheating. No Jury is going to see those videos and rule for Plaintiff. Wrong in that Twitter is an effective means of intimidating others to keep from giving their opinion on the matter. People will be afraid of saying anything for fear of being sued.

    Again, I don't think he was cheating, just angle shooting and intimidation. If he was going to mark cards, he would be more discrete. Plus, they have never found a marked deck.
    They didnt because people didnt go major apeshit till after the fact. Plus not casting any shade on WSOP intentionally but I know if there was some accusations of legit card marking etc they might want to bury the evidence lest a major revolt break out and they have to fight to get back the Czechs money he was paid and readjust all the payouts suddenly. Just seems sometimes the group putting on the events when cheating and shit gets fired across the bow they duck and cover and CYA just like Stones and just like HCL have done in the past (and no Im not talking about the J4os hand with Adelstein)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftpjesus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NickyPipes View Post
    Look pal of course the lawsuits not going anywhere.

    Brother if you really mean business your lawyer doesn’t announce the lawsuit on twitter. Clicked to his account for a minute, wouldn’t want a lawyer with a twitter account like that

    Nicky Pipes lawyer does not use twitter.
    Dunno if you saw Druffs twitter posting. Lawyer has a one of those fake office addresses like at a UPS Store situation.. ROFLMAO.. Wonder if this lawyer is about as real as Postles lawyers were
    The lawyer is real in that he is an actual person and does have a license to practice law. However, it does not appear he is licensed in Nevada, and he does not have a specialty in defamation/libel, but rather seems to be a patent attorney.

    The address thing is curious. The letterhead shows two addresses in seemingly impressive locations -- Brickell Ave in Miami, and Rockefeller Plaza in NYC.

    However, I had recalled reading about some mail drop and virtual office services operating with such addresses, and got suspicious. I googled, and sure enough, that's exactly what they appear to be using. Their exact address and suite numbers are associated with these services.

    So why would they have such addresses listed if they're real attorneys? Because it's possible this is a move for prestige. In recent years, many attorneys have sought high-rise downtown locations around the country, believing it will impress potential clients that they are a powerful law firm. Beats the image of a few attorneys working from home and mostly operating through Zoom.

    It's just funny that Kabrhel hired a patent attorney using virtual offices as his address. Doesn't exactly project the image he likely wanted. Is it possible Kabrhel will actually sue Robl, Bonomo, and Smith, and will use this attorney to do it? Yes.

    However, they may run into jurisdictional issues, given where this attorney is licensed, and they may ran into issues with both proving damages and the fact that Kabrhel is likely a limited purpose public figure, at the very least.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ftpjesus View Post

    Dunno if you saw Druffs twitter posting. Lawyer has a one of those fake office addresses like at a UPS Store situation.. ROFLMAO.. Wonder if this lawyer is about as real as Postles lawyers were
    The lawyer is real in that he is an actual person and does have a license to practice law. However, it does not appear he is licensed in Nevada, and he does not have a specialty in defamation/libel, but rather seems to be a patent attorney.

    The address thing is curious. The letterhead shows two addresses in seemingly impressive locations -- Brickell Ave in Miami, and Rockefeller Plaza in NYC.

    However, I had recalled reading about some mail drop and virtual office services operating with such addresses, and got suspicious. I googled, and sure enough, that's exactly what they appear to be using. Their exact address and suite numbers are associated with these services.

    So why would they have such addresses listed if they're real attorneys? Because it's possible this is a move for prestige. In recent years, many attorneys have sought high-rise downtown locations around the country, believing it will impress potential clients that they are a powerful law firm. Beats the image of a few attorneys working from home and mostly operating through Zoom.

    It's just funny that Kabrhel hired a patent attorney using virtual offices as his address. Doesn't exactly project the image he likely wanted. Is it possible Kabrhel will actually sue Robl, Bonomo, and Smith, and will use this attorney to do it? Yes.

    However, they may run into jurisdictional issues, given where this attorney is licensed, and they may ran into issues with both proving damages and the fact that Kabrhel is likely a limited purpose public figure, at the very least.
    He's not suing anything ... he is literally on video breaking a rule stated by the floor and he did it multiple times. That is more than enough to accuse him of cheating as breaking the rule is cheating (he should have been given a penalty for it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sah_24 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    The lawyer is real in that he is an actual person and does have a license to practice law. However, it does not appear he is licensed in Nevada, and he does not have a specialty in defamation/libel, but rather seems to be a patent attorney.

    The address thing is curious. The letterhead shows two addresses in seemingly impressive locations -- Brickell Ave in Miami, and Rockefeller Plaza in NYC.

    However, I had recalled reading about some mail drop and virtual office services operating with such addresses, and got suspicious. I googled, and sure enough, that's exactly what they appear to be using. Their exact address and suite numbers are associated with these services.

    So why would they have such addresses listed if they're real attorneys? Because it's possible this is a move for prestige. In recent years, many attorneys have sought high-rise downtown locations around the country, believing it will impress potential clients that they are a powerful law firm. Beats the image of a few attorneys working from home and mostly operating through Zoom.

    It's just funny that Kabrhel hired a patent attorney using virtual offices as his address. Doesn't exactly project the image he likely wanted. Is it possible Kabrhel will actually sue Robl, Bonomo, and Smith, and will use this attorney to do it? Yes.

    However, they may run into jurisdictional issues, given where this attorney is licensed, and they may ran into issues with both proving damages and the fact that Kabrhel is likely a limited purpose public figure, at the very least.
    He's not suing anything ... he is literally on video breaking a rule stated by the floor and he did it multiple times. That is more than enough to accuse him of cheating as breaking the rule is cheating (he should have been given a penalty for it)
    I get tilted at 1-3 and 2-5 when someone tanks for longer than 30 seconds. This just looks like no fun. What an asshole.

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    As others have said does not appear to be cheating. and while people are upset at him about angle shooting well it really falls on tournament directors and dealers. They make significant money from these events and do a piss poor job of enforcing rules. stalling can easily be rectified if tournament directors cared about this sort of thing.

    I mean American football has insane angle shooting but they've mange to deal with it by imposing proper rules and regulations. Poker could easily do the same.
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    This whole thing is a failure of the rules. I'm on team Martin.

    Have better rules...

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    I would assume he had some previous association or connection to the attorney. That was a quick turnaround to get the legal letter up if he had to go lawyer hunting and make sense as the guys not specialized as Druff said. If you go lawyer hunting you’d probably search a specialized lawyer especially if you have a lot of money like he does

    Why didn’t anybody just say “cut it out pal”

    Brothers you’d be surprised how effective it can be for Nicky Pipes to simply say “enough”

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    Remember that "definite" lawsuit against Smith, Robl, etc?

    Remember that weird NYC patent lawyer who gave notice to people via Twitter to preserve all evidence? Remember how that lawyer had mail drop addresses in NYC and Miami?

    Well, that lawyer's tweet from June was quietly deleted. So I guess that's that. No lawsuit, just as most people suspected.

    I presume we will see Kabrhel at the 2024 WSOP as well. Shortly after this controversy, I saw Kabrhel sauntering around the Horseshoe without a care in the world. He truly doesn't give a shit if people in poker hate him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    Remember that "definite" lawsuit against Smith, Robl, etc?

    Remember that weird NYC patent lawyer who gave notice to people via Twitter to preserve all evidence? Remember how that lawyer had mail drop addresses in NYC and Miami?

    Well, that lawyer's tweet from June was quietly deleted. So I guess that's that. No lawsuit, just as most people suspected.

    I presume we will see Kabrhel at the 2024 WSOP as well. Shortly after this controversy, I saw Kabrhel sauntering around the Horseshoe without a care in the world. He truly doesn't give a shit if people in poker hate him.
    I commend him for bleeding that pussy industry.

    Why give a shit when you can create an edge with millions at stake and the only redress will be some pink haired faggot crying about it on Twitter and a guy making videos?

    Just laugh and stack their gook faces, scumbag gamblers who can't keep wolves away deserve to get bled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
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    Remember that "definite" lawsuit against Smith, Robl, etc?

    Remember that weird NYC patent lawyer who gave notice to people via Twitter to preserve all evidence? Remember how that lawyer had mail drop addresses in NYC and Miami?

    Well, that lawyer's tweet from June was quietly deleted. So I guess that's that. No lawsuit, just as most people suspected.

    I presume we will see Kabrhel at the 2024 WSOP as well. Shortly after this controversy, I saw Kabrhel sauntering around the Horseshoe without a care in the world. He truly doesn't give a shit if people in poker hate him.
    I commend him for bleeding that pussy industry.

    Why give a shit when you can create an edge with millions at stake and the only redress will be some pink haired faggot crying about it on Twitter and a guy making videos?

    Just laugh and stack their gook faces, scumbag gamblers who can't keep wolves away deserve to get bled.
    Wait are we calling the anti semitic shitpile Bonomo a pink haired faggot? The ultimate irony with Bonomo is hes defending the very type of people who would grab him up and slit his throat in a second for being LGBTQ+. Guy really is a clueless wanker.

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    The best of this thread is these tough guys. One of them worships Dolly who was rumored to be a cheat but that isn't the important part. Idol worship of that guy. He is interesting at least but acting like he'd 'done something'? I've never heard of a story of violence amongst well known upper-tier players outside of Grizzle and Helmuth.

    The best part is there is this assumption that these successful people should physically do something to him and risk a criminal charge or almost guaranteed banning from the venue. Martin takes a punch, becomes more infamous, and the other guy can't play poker in this venue.

    Kinda obvious who is going to be successful at poker and who isn't but yea.. keep posturing guys. Those cucks! They aren't like my hero Texas Dolly.. because.. well you know.. he is my hero.

    Krekel or whatever thrives on this. Saying stuff to him will just make him enjoy it even more. It is a game. You want successful people with money to lose in the game. This krekel or whatever guy is the opposite of that. He gets a pass in casinos though.

    There is also the point of whether it is even in the casino's interest to become too involved. I'm not so sure about that.

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