I'm against it on the basis of added costs.Originally Posted by Daly
I'm against it on the basis of added costs.
Cop (or cops) are already there inside the four walls with a prime directive of protecting the school. If anything its a overwhelming reason for this concept to happen. No forming up outside and wondering who is in charge.One problem with that idea.
On May 24, 2022, a mass shooting occurred at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, United States, where 18-year-old Salvador Ramos, a former student at the school fatally shot nineteen students and two teachers
Police officers waited more than 1 hour and 14 minutes on-site before breaching the classroom to engage the shooter. Police also cordoned off the school grounds, resulting in violent conflicts between police and civilians, including parents, who were attempting to enter the school to rescue children
Fair point.Cop (or cops) are already there inside the four walls with a prime directive of protecting the school. If anything its a overwhelming reason for this concept to happen. No forming up outside and wondering who is in charge.
I thought it was a reasonable idea but definitely still relies on selfless behavior on the part of that person to execute their role adequately when required
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I'm against it on the basis of added costs.
Even if it were true that this would add costs we just sent umpteen billions to Ukraine. We can find money for this.
My take is if costs are that tight take a cop out of the police station and deploy them to the school. If you cant do that because the city/town/county doesnt have a big enough force then they likely don't have a school with greater than 100 students. If the school has more than 100 they absolutely have the resource to fund.
I'm against the Government sending money to any foreign country for any reason. Not trade, obviously, but just sending it.
I reiterate I am against this on the basis of added costs.
Dude, you can have a school with 100 students in a one cop town. Are you, like, a lifetime big city guy?
Besides, many schools cross police jurisdictions (in terms of student body of that school), so then the school is obviously physically located in a specific jurisdiction, but then they're not going to want to fund it and use their resources when the students in that school are coming from other jurisdictions. We'd be five years before we even had the framework of a plan as to how it would be funded.
So, it's pretty much going to have to be state/federal funded. I think State Police or ex-military would be the way to go, then you don't have conflicting jurisdictional interests.
I remain opposed on the basis of added costs.
Agree with my friend OK2 here; I would fully support this in theory and his above example highlights cowardice in that tragedy, but any motivated lunatic with an AR could take out a dozen people in seconds. Having a JSearles on campus with a pistol isn't really going to move the needle.One problem with that idea.
On May 24, 2022, a mass shooting occurred at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, United States, where 18-year-old Salvador Ramos, a former student at the school fatally shot nineteen students and two teachers
Police officers waited more than 1 hour and 14 minutes on-site before breaching the classroom to engage the shooter. Police also cordoned off the school grounds, resulting in violent conflicts between police and civilians, including parents, who were attempting to enter the school to rescue children
It's just a part of American life that our schools and buildings will continue to be sprayed with bullets by lunatics who can get high powered guns easily. Nothing will change even if someone chalks 100+ school children. We're the only country where it continues to happen, and it will just keep getting worse.
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What’s the actual plan to confiscate all guns?
I’m all for doing this not because it has a snowballs chance in hell of working; but because of the resulting chaos it would cause.
We will let the parents of the dead kids know it cost too much money for your tastes…… and this is coming from me as a resident Libertarian.I'm against the Government sending money to any foreign country for any reason.
I reiterate I am against this on the basis of added costs.
Dude, you can have a school with 100 students in a one cop town. Are you, like, a lifetime big city guy?
Besides, many schools cross police jurisdictions (in terms of student body of that school), so then the school is obviously physically located in a specific jurisdiction, but then they're not going to want to fund it and use their resources when the students in that school are coming from other jurisdictions. We'd be five years before we even had the framework of a plan as to how it would be funded.
So, it's pretty much going to have to be state/federal funded. I think State Police or ex-military would be the way to go, then you don't have conflicting jurisdictional interests.
I remain opposed on the basis of added costs.
Want to make it 150 kids? Want to shift burden from local to state? Delay due to “Budget Framework” is complete bullshit. Are you a lifetime back country resident? 80% of school population would be covered by localized “Framework”. 20% of rural can figure it out by start of next year.
But this is the way to help fix the issue.
Agree with my friend OK2 here; I would fully support this in theory and his above example highlights cowardice in that tragedy, but any motivated lunatic with an AR could take out a dozen people in seconds. Having a JSearles on campus with a pistol isn't really going to move the needle.
It's just a part of American life that our schools and buildings will continue to be sprayed with bullets by lunatics who can get high powered guns easily. Nothing will change even if someone chalks 100+ school children. We're the only country where it continues to happen, and it will just keep getting worse.
“We give up”
Sounds like a great plan
I'll say it directly to their faces. Not today or tomorrow, of course. Why would I ever give a fuck about the parents? Jesus Christ. Fucking Evangelicals are actively in favor of policies that would make it more difficult for single mothers to get Government assistance and I'm supposed to care about these cunts? What planet are you from?
Actually, maybe some Far Left nutjob will go on some conspiracy rampage about this entire shooting being a hoax two years from now. That would be truly hilarious.
Not back country. My elementary school, for example, consisted of kids from three small towns with combined population...give or take...3,000, after you count the population that wouldn't have technically been in any of the three. Elementary was K-5, so you're covering six academic years. Don't quote me on this...but I want to say the school was populated by 300 students, give or take a couple dozen, lots of people with kids in those towns.
You get to Middle School (different town) and that's 6-8, but more towns, because there were only two middle schools compared to three elementary schools.
Both of the towns were literally one cop towns.
Also, I would add cops by square footage of the school; not population of the student body. What difference does the number of students actually make on its own? My bigger concern would be how many theoretical ways are there to get in or out of the building, really. How much ground needs to be covered once in the building? Much more relevant.
Yeah, I'd make the burden state or federal just because it's much easier. If state, then constables/troopers are allocated to schools based on either student body, square footage...whatever, then the Department of Education pays the State Police out of the Education Budget. Nice and clean.
Still opposed on the grounds of added costs.
I mean it has worked in his real life so why don't we try to implement it in other areas for everyone.
“We give up”
Sounds like a great plan
Absolute fucking heroes. Warning unedited video. Within 5 mins officer enters building and takes out shooter . Crazy how calm and collected he was upon arrival. Like die hard in real life
https://www.kaotic.com/video/4feaa94d_20230328133811_t
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In damn near every movie, video game and rap video the hero is shooting as many people as possible.
Idk, maybe they should stop glamourizing that crap.
Maybe the media should quit giving around the clock coverage to these shootings.
Do not make the shooter or victims famous and do not read or even acknowledge their manifestos.
That'd eliminate a large % of these events.
Unfortunately, both of these cheap, simple and effective ideas violate America's golden rule.
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You know EXACTLY who will opposes this, and why.
I predict almost every single private school will have security this time next year if they don't already. 250 grand on their budget for a couple guys is pocket change. Parents will love it knowing their child is safe and will pay whatever added cost if it is more.
The we have the public schools. Want to go down that rabbit hole and predict the response from the mob that call themselves the teachers union? We have already seen it. It will happen...over the dead bodies of children. However many they need to sacrifice they will. It is part of their larger mission to destroy, control and brainwash the youth.
Ill give you credit for having thought about it to the point where you factoring in school footprint and funding. Id be hypocritical to say “I don't care what it costs”. That said its time to figure it out and now. This needs to be a high priority policy agenda item.I'll say it directly to their faces. Not today or tomorrow, of course. Why would I ever give a fuck about the parents? Jesus Christ. Fucking Evangelicals are actively in favor of policies that would make it more difficult for single mothers to get Government assistance and I'm supposed to care about these cunts? What planet are you from?
Actually, maybe some Far Left nutjob will go on some conspiracy rampage about this entire shooting being a hoax two years from now. That would be truly hilarious.
Not back country. My elementary school, for example, consisted of kids from three small towns with combined population...give or take...3,000, after you count the population that wouldn't have technically been in any of the three. Elementary was K-5, so you're covering six academic years. Don't quote me on this...but I want to say the school was populated by 300 students, give or take a couple dozen, lots of people with kids in those towns.
You get to Middle School (different town) and that's 6-8, but more towns, because there were only two middle schools compared to three elementary schools.
Both of the towns were literally one cop towns.
Also, I would add cops by square footage of the school; not population of the student body. What difference does the number of students actually make on its own? My bigger concern would be how many theoretical ways are there to get in or out of the building, really. How much ground needs to be covered once in the building? Much more relevant.
Yeah, I'd make the burden state or federal just because it's much easier. If state, then constables/troopers are allocated to schools based on either student body, square footage...whatever, then the Department of Education pays the State Police out of the Education Budget. Nice and clean.
Still opposed on the grounds of added costs.
No more “thoughts and prayers”.
Blew that motherfuckers head straight off from 40 yds. Love to see it.
It’s just starting.
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