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    Did Mikki scam 600$ in Hustler live game vs streamer donks?

    Not seeing this talked about. I saw botez was playing the other night and did a quick check to see how the game went. A few comments about Mikki cheating 600 bucks but don't see anything refuting it.

    See 6:03:00 mark if time stamp doesn't work

    Evidence: Mikki gets felted and covered on the all in. Clearly has 600 bucks in chips in his hand and walks off with it.

    Evidence against: He doesn't pretty bad job of hiding it. The whole table is a bunch of novices though and none would call him out.

    For time stamp link cut and paste address below and add "h" to the start

    ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T6Qk97U4Cw&t=21790s



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    I don't think he did it on purpose, if I was in this game as long as he made it right ASAP I would be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Just looks some stoned dude saying goodbye and forgot what was in his hand, shit happens
    but I would probably be paying a bit more attention to him in the future to make sure it was just a one-off type incident

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunbeater View Post
    I don't think he did it on purpose, if I was in this game as long as he made it right ASAP I would be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Just looks some stoned dude saying goodbye and forgot what was in his hand, shit happens
    but I would probably be paying a bit more attention to him in the future to make sure it was just a one-off type incident
    There was a comment in the chat that mikki routinely does this when busting out. I donít watched the streams normally so no idea if true. I guess itís possible if he is doing it people see him as such a big fish itís not worth calling him out for it
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    Yeah, that looks sketchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunbeater View Post
    I don't think he did it on purpose, if I was in this game as long as he made it right ASAP I would be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Just looks some stoned dude saying goodbye and forgot what was in his hand, shit happens
    but I would probably be paying a bit more attention to him in the future to make sure it was just a one-off type incident

    This is something Mikki has done a few times on stream already. If he had the aces, no way that $600 bucks is in his hand. Highly unethical and no one else would get away with it. I remember him doing it for a couple thousand in the game with Helmuth. Iíll add those once I can find them. Most likely he is putting every cent he has on him on the table in case he gets it in as a favorite.

     
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    This is just one example. 2:50:00 Mikki goes all in and holds what looks to be 3 $50 chips in his left hand. Phora “So are you all in or not?” Mikki “I Keep them as souvenirs”. Eventually Helmuth takes mercy on him and says “no one objects to keeping the $150.” This is part of Mikki’s MO.


     
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    3:11:00. Mikki calls off and declares ďIím keeping this right hereĒ. Looks to be a little over 5 K. 3 green 1K chips and a little over 20 $100 dollar chips. If he has aces you think he does this? This is his normal. It depends on the stakes and who is in the game that determines just how much he will take off the table. But Mikki always Squirrels away chips when heís all in behind. In this case over 5 grand.


     
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    Okay so clearly the verdict is this guy is a cheat (I can't even call what he is doing angle shooting) but such a shitty player people tolerate it cause he is dead money either way.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    3:11:00. Mikki calls off and declares ďIím keeping this right hereĒ. Looks to be a little over 5 K. 3 green 1K chips and a little over 20 $100 dollar chips. If he has aces you think he does this? This is his normal. It depends on the stakes and who is in the game that determines just how much he will take off the table. But Mikki always Squirrels away chips when heís all in behind. In this case over 5 grand.

    ah damn I never even saw any of these. In any case fuck this guy clearly he is angling in all these instances

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    Druff prob will move this to SSS section. We have a pretty long thread on Mikki there already.

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    It really is so scummy that he does this every time. Taking chips off the table when you are all in and behind. I’m thinking if Doyle or Ivey were holding aces and Mikki says he’s all in but he’s keeping 5 K….well I think something would be said. Going south is certainly something that happens, but going south when all in is a different story.

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    Yup, one of those things where the guy is a fish and good for the games, so nobody says anything.

    He probably does it because he knows he can get away with it, and nobody says anything because he "gives action". Just steals because he can.

    Scum.

    Not surprising though. Remember how the guy acted when he was on PFA Radio in December 2021. Acted all indignant that I wasn't buying his bullshit (even though I was very polite), and then promised to meet me and show his win/loss statements. Then ghosted me when I asked multiple times to set it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Yup, one of those things where the guy is a fish and good for the games, so nobody says anything.

    He probably does it because he knows he can get away with it, and nobody says anything because he "gives action". Just steals because he can.

    Scum.

    Not surprising though. Remember how the guy acted when he was on PFA Radio in December 2021. Acted all indignant that I wasn't buying his bullshit (even though I was very polite), and then promised to meet me and show his win/loss statements. Then ghosted me when I asked multiple times to set it up.
    I think the thing that especially bothers me in that he is doing it to novice players. Most of these streamers here just started to learn how to play in the last year or so. Most wouldnít even understand what mikki is doing is wrong. Itís likely hustler put him in this game so he didnít get destroyed or actually wins. And he still lost.

    Itís also telling what a horrible game hustler runs to continue to allow thisÖ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Yup, one of those things where the guy is a fish and good for the games, so nobody says anything.

    He probably does it because he knows he can get away with it, and nobody says anything because he "gives action". Just steals because he can.

    Scum.

    Not surprising though. Remember how the guy acted when he was on PFA Radio in December 2021. Acted all indignant that I wasn't buying his bullshit (even though I was very polite), and then promised to meet me and show his win/loss statements. Then ghosted me when I asked multiple times to set it up.
    I think the thing that especially bothers me in that he is doing it to novice players. Most of these streamers here just started to learn how to play in the last year or so. Most wouldnít even understand what mikki is doing is wrong. Itís likely hustler put him in this game so he didnít get destroyed or actually wins. And he still lost.

    Itís also telling what a horrible game hustler runs to continue to allow thisÖ. Really makes you wonder why you tip dealers when they clearly canít run the game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Yup, one of those things where the guy is a fish and good for the games, so nobody says anything.

    He probably does it because he knows he can get away with it, and nobody says anything because he "gives action". Just steals because he can.

    Scum.

    Not surprising though. Remember how the guy acted when he was on PFA Radio in December 2021. Acted all indignant that I wasn't buying his bullshit (even though I was very polite), and then promised to meet me and show his win/loss statements. Then ghosted me when I asked multiple times to set it up.

    eh it is pretty slimey but if I had someone like Mikki in my games I would probably let it slide. I mean the guys calls off 100bb with like QJo, fuck it I'm buying this guy hookers and blow every night to make sure he comes plays in my game

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    Only time Id ďallowĒ this is if he was getting drinks or a massage and wanted to pay it out of his pile. Otherwise the money stays in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    Only time Id ďallowĒ this is if he was getting drinks or a massage and wanted to pay it out of his pile. Otherwise the money stays in
    A total punk move. Low class, basic ghetto. And if he does this he'll do whatever. These people eventually get their comeuppance. Just like what happened to this codeless, snitching fool:

    https://twitter.com/#!/x/status/1638760650817282049

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Yup, one of those things where the guy is a fish and good for the games, so nobody says anything.

    He probably does it because he knows he can get away with it, and nobody says anything because he "gives action". Just steals because he can.

    Scum.

    Not surprising though. Remember how the guy acted when he was on PFA Radio in December 2021. Acted all indignant that I wasn't buying his bullshit (even though I was very polite), and then promised to meet me and show his win/loss statements. Then ghosted me when I asked multiple times to set it up.
    Do you think he will or should be banned from playing there until he pays the money back? I would think the casino should have an issue with this type of behavior since its so public and clearly happened and all on video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Yup, one of those things where the guy is a fish and good for the games, so nobody says anything.

    He probably does it because he knows he can get away with it, and nobody says anything because he "gives action". Just steals because he can.

    Scum.

    Not surprising though. Remember how the guy acted when he was on PFA Radio in December 2021. Acted all indignant that I wasn't buying his bullshit (even though I was very polite), and then promised to meet me and show his win/loss statements. Then ghosted me when I asked multiple times to set it up.
    I think he does it to try to run it up on baccarat. The dragon side bet pays 40 to 1 so maybe he takes a couple of shots on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by country978 View Post
    Do you think he will or should be banned from playing there until he pays the money back? I would think the casino should have an issue with this type of behavior since it’s so public and clearly happened and all on video.
    Unfortunately 0.00% chance of this happening Country. Mikki is leveraging that he is in a streamed game and essentially if none of the players or the dealer speak up when the hand goes down, it’s done & dusted. We have all seen the floor called in games in far far more trivial situations.

    Remember this incident? Well, Armenian Mike shoved for 10K and then wanted to take his bet back. This is not apples to apples. But this video was over about 10K and did about a million views. Mikki holds back 5K, admittedly somewhat different circumstance, and total crickets.

    He takes $600 out of the pot on the creator game and it’s a big nothing burger. The landscape has changed and the money being gambled for on these streams has multiplied huge over the last few years. But Mikki is clearly doing an angle and it’s just accepted. He has done it over and over and over again. No one says shit.


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