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    Quote Originally Posted by Rollo Tomasi View Post

    the Globe is owned by the NY Times do you know how many stories about Libya ran in the NY Times today, the day the Obama Administrations WH spokes jopke Jay Carney said after a week of denial "of course it was a terrorist attack"


    0.0 stories on Libya ran in the "paper of record" today
    No one here believes you read the NYT, RT. Care to post your source?

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    The One's who killed Stevens in Libya's second city of Benghazi where run out of town by 30,000 locals in support of the American Ambassador.

    Guess that saves America from sending in them Stealth Bombers to flatten the place now.


    BENGHAZI, Libya — Libyan protesters ousted a jihadist militia from its headquarters and seized a raft of other paramilitary bases in second city Benghazi early Saturday in heavy clashes that left four people dead.
    The seizure of the headquarters of Ansar al-Sharia -- which has been accused of, but denied, involvement in the murder of US Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans last week -- came after tens of thousands took to the streets on Friday to protest against the power of the militias.
    The group's members took flight as hundreds of protesters stormed and then torched its compound, and also evicted it from the city's Al-Jalaa hospital, where they were replaced by military police, an AFP correspondent reported.
    But to the alarm of senior officials, the demonstrators also stormed a raft of other paramilitary bases in the city controlled by former rebel units that had declared their loyalty to the central government.
    It was at one such base -- the headquarters of the Raf Allah al-Sahati Brigade, an Islamist unit under the authority of the defence ministry -- that the four people were killed in clashes between its fighters and hundreds of protesters, some of them armed.
    Around 70 people were wounded during the overnight violence, medics at Benghazi's three main hospitals said.
    Worried Libyan authorities called on the demonstrators to distinguish between "illegitimate" brigades and those who are under state control, warning that the neutralisation of loyal units risked "chaos".
    The warning highlighted the dilemma facing the Libyan government a year after the overthrow of veteran dictator Moamer Kadhafi -- while militias pose the biggest threat to its authority, its fledgling new security forces are dependent on former rebel units that fought in the uprising.
    The trigger for the assault on the paramilitaries was a "Save Benghazi" protest after the main weekly Muslim prayers on Friday that was joined by some 30,000 peaceful demonstrators.
    It drowned out a smaller rally attended by just a few hundred people called by the jihadists and hardline Islamists angry over a US-made film that mocks Islam and cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed published by a French magazine.
    Demonstrators paid tribute to Ambassador Stevens and the other Americans killed in the September 11 assault on the US consulate in the city that Washington now says was a "terrorist" attack.
    "Libya lost a friend," read one banner. "We want justice for Stevens," said another.

    Jihadist militants of Ansar al-Sharia fired in the air as they retreated from their headquarters in the face of the overwhelmingly superior numbers of the protesters.
    On Saturday, the building was in the hands of the regular armed forces, an AFP correspondent reported.
    But the protesters, angry at the power in the city of a string of former rebel groups with varying degrees of loyalty to the central government, also stormed other paramilitary bases.
    Some 70 demonstrators took over the barracks of the Martyrs of Abu Slim Brigade, while others expelled militiamen from at least four public buildings, before some of the protesters moved on the Raf Allah al-Sahati Brigade base on the city's outskirts.
    The two sides gave conflicting accounts of what sparked the deadly two hours of rocket and light arms exchanges that culminated in the brigade's fighters pulling out and the attackers looting the base and seizing weaponry.
    "We came peacefully and asked them with our loudspeakers to disarm," said protester Nasser Saad, stressing that armed reinforcements only came after the demonstration was attacked.
    But one of the brigade's fighters, Ahmed Faraj, insisted that the goal of the attackers was not the suppression of militias but the seizure of the base's armoury.
    "They were coming to take our weapons," he said. "We are part of the ministry of defence, we fought in the revolution, we can't just walk away and hand over heavy weapons to a bunch of drunks and criminals."
    The brigade said on its Facebook page that it had regained control of its looted headquarters on Saturday. It said one of its commanders, prominent Islamist Ismail al-Sallabi, had been lightly wounded in the fighting.
    National assembly chief Mohamed al-Megaryef, who had initially welcomed the Benghazi protest, urged the demonstrators to withdraw from the bases of loyal brigades.
    He named Raf Allah al-Sahati and February 17 Brigades, and Shield Libya.
    Libya specialist Jason Pack said that the scale of the anti-militia protest in Benghazi showed the "depth and breadth of support for the United States that prevails in Libya in the wake of the attack on Ambassador Chris Stevens."
    "Now with the people calling for a hardline anti-militia policy, Libyan leaders may find themselves steeled with the requisite courage to purge these groups from the Libyan body politic," Pack said.
    But activists on the ground said they were still waiting to see what the response would be, from the government as well as the militias.
    "The situation is very volatile. We don't know what the reaction will be," activist Jalal al-Gallal told AFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntmissioner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rollo Tomasi View Post

    the Globe is owned by the NY Times do you know how many stories about Libya ran in the NY Times today, the day the Obama Administrations WH spokes jopke Jay Carney said after a week of denial "of course it was a terrorist attack"


    0.0 stories on Libya ran in the "paper of record" today
    No one here believes you read the NYT, RT. Care to post your source?
    http://video.foxnews.com/v/1852124060001/

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    Look Corrigan, you've been a sideshow clown around here from the jump
    It's tough to take you seriously when you've made your bones acting the fool.
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    Which one is he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts View Post

    Look Corrigan, you've been a sideshow clown around here from the jump
    It's tough to take you seriously when you've made your bones acting the fool.
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    Which one is he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
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    you're the one that thinks we "empowered" japan.

    i don't need to explain shit.

    you however, need to explain how you came up with one of the most retarded statements my eyes have ever laid eyes upon.
    Let's start with democracy. Didn't have it before the war, did after the war. How did that come about?


    Hey M0use, you didn't reply to this.....care to comment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post

    Let's start with democracy. Didn't have it before the war, did after the war. How did that come about?


    Hey M0use, you didn't reply to this.....care to comment?

    bump

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    Hillary has the balls, she takes the 3am calls while obama party's with jayzzz and beyonce

    "I take responsibility," Clinton told CNN in an interview while on a visit to Peru. "I'm in charge of the State Department's 60,000-plus people all over the world, 275 posts. The president and the vice president wouldn't be knowledgeable about specific decisions that are made by security professionals. They're the ones who weigh all of the threats and the risks and the needs and make a considered decision."

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/15/us/cli...azi/index.html
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    It's tough to take you seriously when you've made your bones acting the fool.
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    Surprise, surprise, looks like the Obama Administration was either lying or confused for 8 days when they wouldn't acknowledge that this was an organized terrorist attack.







    http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/24/us/lib...ils/index.html

    One of the e-mails (the third one shown above) -- sent from a State Department address to various government agencies -- specifically identifies Ansar al-Sharia as claiming responsibility for the attack on its Facebook page and on Twitter.

    The e-mails raise further questions about the seeming confusion on the part of the Obama administration to determine the nature of the September attack and those who planned it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    One of the e-mails (the third one shown above) -- sent from a State Department address to various government agencies -- specifically identifies Ansar al-Sharia as claiming responsibility for the attack on its Facebook page and on Twitter.

    The e-mails raise further questions about the seeming confusion on the part of the Obama administration to determine the nature of the September attack and those who planned it.
    Terrorist groups take credit for shit they had nothing to do with all the time. It's an easy way to gain street cred.

    The CIA has to confirm that the group that took credit was actually responsible.

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    Come on Druff. You know that any email 'leaked' with a date of Sept 11 on it is a fabrication from a PR firm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    One of the e-mails (the third one shown above) -- sent from a State Department address to various government agencies -- specifically identifies Ansar al-Sharia as claiming responsibility for the attack on its Facebook page and on Twitter.

    The e-mails raise further questions about the seeming confusion on the part of the Obama administration to determine the nature of the September attack and those who planned it.
    Terrorist groups take credit for shit they had nothing to do with all the time. It's an easy way to gain street cred.

    The CIA has to confirm that the group that took credit was actually responsible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    One of the e-mails (the third one shown above) -- sent from a State Department address to various government agencies -- specifically identifies Ansar al-Sharia as claiming responsibility for the attack on its Facebook page and on Twitter.

    The e-mails raise further questions about the seeming confusion on the part of the Obama administration to determine the nature of the September attack and those who planned it.
    Terrorist groups take credit for shit they had nothing to do with all the time. It's an easy way to gain street cred.

    The CIA has to confirm that the group that took credit was actually responsible.
    Your Obama ball sucking is nauseating. Has this man ever done one thing in his life that is wrong in your eyes? Or can you really find a way to spin every single one of his fuckups?
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    Why the fuck is the world (cough US) allowing these backward fuckers have nukes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    One of the e-mails (the third one shown above) -- sent from a State Department address to various government agencies -- specifically identifies Ansar al-Sharia as claiming responsibility for the attack on its Facebook page and on Twitter.

    The e-mails raise further questions about the seeming confusion on the part of the Obama administration to determine the nature of the September attack and those who planned it.
    Terrorist groups take credit for shit they had nothing to do with all the time. It's an easy way to gain street cred.

    The CIA has to confirm that the group that took credit was actually responsible.
    The problem wasn't that the Obama Administration didn't know immediately. That would be reasonable and acceptable.

    The problem was that they were all over the map explaining it, rather than simply saying that an investigation into the culprits was ongoing.

    From the same CNN article:

    The day after the attack took place (September 12), President Barack Obama referred to it as an "act of terror."

    But in the following days, White House spokesman Jay Carney maintained there was no evidence suggesting the attack was "planned or imminent."

    The administration also suggested that an anti-Muslim video produced in the United States likely fueled a spontaneous demonstration in Benghazi as it had in Cairo, where the U.S. Embassy also was attacked.

    Hillary Clinton, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland and Susan Rice, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, all cited the video as a motivating factor in the attack.

    However, it wasn't until September 19 that Matthew Olsen, the nation's counterterrorism chief, told senators that it was a terrorist attack. The next day, Carney also said it was "self-evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack."
    Keep in mind the above is not from Fox News or another anti-Obama organization, but rather the left-center-leaning CNN.

    Why blame a spontaneous demonstration over a stupid video as the cause? Why say that there was "no evidence" that the attack was planned, when a group was already taking credit for it?

    It is now pretty clear that this was a planned attack and it was NOT spontaneous violence over the video.

    This whole thing shows that the Obama Administration is either clueless or lying about the situation -- and neither is particularly reassuring about their ability to handle foreign affairs going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post

    Terrorist groups take credit for shit they had nothing to do with all the time. It's an easy way to gain street cred.

    The CIA has to confirm that the group that took credit was actually responsible.
    The problem wasn't that the Obama Administration didn't know immediately. That would be reasonable and acceptable.

    The problem was that they were all over the map explaining it, rather than simply saying that an investigation into the culprits was ongoing.

    From the same CNN article:

    The day after the attack took place (September 12), President Barack Obama referred to it as an "act of terror."

    But in the following days, White House spokesman Jay Carney maintained there was no evidence suggesting the attack was "planned or imminent."

    The administration also suggested that an anti-Muslim video produced in the United States likely fueled a spontaneous demonstration in Benghazi as it had in Cairo, where the U.S. Embassy also was attacked.

    Hillary Clinton, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland and Susan Rice, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, all cited the video as a motivating factor in the attack.

    However, it wasn't until September 19 that Matthew Olsen, the nation's counterterrorism chief, told senators that it was a terrorist attack. The next day, Carney also said it was "self-evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack."
    Keep in mind the above is not from Fox News or another anti-Obama organization, but rather the left-center-leaning CNN.

    Why blame a spontaneous demonstration over a stupid video as the cause? Why say that there was "no evidence" that the attack was planned, when a group was already taking credit for it?

    It is now pretty clear that this was a planned attack and it was NOT spontaneous violence over the video.

    This whole thing shows that the Obama Administration is either clueless or lying about the situation -- and neither is particularly reassuring about their ability to handle foreign affairs going forward.
    Barry will probably claim that this was a problem Obama inherited from Bush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser View Post

    Barry will probably claim that this was a problem Obama inherited from Bush.
    The 40th time you posted this is even funnier than the 39th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    [ Why say that there was "no evidence" that the attack was planned, when a group was already taking credit for it?
    Because no group had taken credit for it. The email you posted was preliminary and inaccurate.

    http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/1..._t3&hpt=hp_bn2

    "Zelin notes that the posting referred to a news conference the group had held earlier that day in Benghazi in which it denied any role in the assault on the consulate, while sympathizing with the attackers."

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser View Post

    Barry will probably claim that this was a problem Obama inherited from Bush.
    The 40th time you posted this is even funnier than the 39th.
    The 50 times you have actually blamed Bush for Obama's incompetence wasn't funny any of the 50 times you've done it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
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    [ Why say that there was "no evidence" that the attack was planned, when a group was already taking credit for it?
    Because no group had taken credit for it. The email you posted was preliminary and inaccurate.

    http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/1..._t3&hpt=hp_bn2

    "Zelin notes that the posting referred to a news conference the group had held earlier that day in Benghazi in which it denied any role in the assault on the consulate, while sympathizing with the attackers."
    What about the weeks after the email when they were STILL blaming a random youtube video? I know. Bush's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post

    The 40th time you posted this is even funnier than the 39th.
    The 50 times you have actually blamed Bush for Obama's incompetence wasn't funny any of the 50 times you've done it.
    Hey, fucktard, have a look at the 13 posts I've made here that contain the word "Bush"

    http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sea...earchid=125274

    More than half of them just quote a post with "Bush" in it. The only one where I've even arguably "blaming Bush" is this one-

    "I just wanted to remind everyone that things went to utter shit during the last year and a half of Bush's watch. Virtually even quantitative measure has improved significantly since Obama took over."

    That's a factual statement.

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