Oh, and the Regime refuses to shoot it down.
Oh, and the Regime refuses to shoot it down.
CHINESE BALLOON YALL
Originally Posted by devidee
Russia is not complying with its obligation under the New START (nuclear arms inspection) Treaty to facilitate inspection activities on its territory.
I mean, it’s no Gulf of Tonkin but it’s definitely better than WMDs.
Just a weather ballon.
Very likely carrying defective mRNA vaccines that they plan to release once it hits east coast
We shouldn't shoot it down. We should capture it and see what it was actually doing, the data it was collecting and what data it was sending back home.
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Shouldve been dealt with the moment it entered NORAD area of responsibility. Only logical explanation is somebody at the 5 sided bldg with multiple stars on their shoulder or the addled brained senile doofus made the decision not to end this shit with prejudice made the decision not to eliminate this thing.
As for the idiots out there suggesting hey why cant somebody with a rifle shoot it down. That has to be some of the dumbest shit Ive read on the internet in awhile. A high powered rifle bullet couldnt touch that thing if they wanted to. Its roughly 10miles up (last report put it at 60k feet) it wouldnt sniff the balloon.
Even a chaingun CIW wouldnt be able to hit that thing. Worst its not a viable target for an Air to Air missile. Maybe the truth is nobody can figure out how to take the damn thing out due to its slow speed likely small radar signature etc in DC. Too high for an A-10 warthog (operational ceiling is 45k feet) to operate as its a slow mover as far as the USAF planes go. Trying to shoot it down even with guns on a fighter would be tough to get gun lock would be my guess. Best option might be to fire SAM with proximity fuse in the best calculated location to detonate at a specific location and height and hope it gets shredded by the warhead upon detonation.
End of the story is, we're being made to look stupid as fuck by 19th century technology essentially.
This made me laugh. Swallow-well just cant help himself it seems. Posting stupid shit every day on Twitter attacking the GOP for his removal from the Intel committee despite the fact he couldnt get a simple clearance in the civilian world based on his shit with bang bang fang fang. Now hes keying off the whole removal of Omar the antisemitic bitch for being removed from the Foreign Affairs committee for the exact thing even the Dems forced her to apologize for. Did they foolishly think there wouldn't be repercussions over their antics with Jim Jordan, MTG et all being pulled from their committee assignments. At least with Swallowell Schit (err I mean Shifty) and Omar there were legit reasons for their removal from foreign compromise to serial perjury to the American public and literally espousing hate speech and supporting terrorism against a US Ally.
Here's what a "senior defense official" says:
Why not shoot it down? We have to do the risk-reward here, So the first question is, does it pose a threat, a physical kinetic threat, to individuals in the United States in the US homeland? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a threat to civilian aviation? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a significantly enhanced threat on the intelligence side? Our best assessment right now is that it does not. So given that profile, we assess the risk of downing it, even if the probability is low in a sparsely populated area of the debris falling and hurting someone or damaging property, that it wasn’t worth it.
What a dumb excuse.
Do they really believe nobody has been to Montana? It is an extremely sparsely populated state. Despite its large geographic size, it's one of the few states which still only has one area code (406).
There would be many opportunities to shoot this thing down. Just wait until it is away from a population area (which is easy in Montana), shoot down the balloon portion, and the heavy/dangerous stuff will fall straight down like a rock.
I love how they're concerned about "damaging property". C'mon, man! On the off chance it damages property on the ground, the government can easily afford to pay for it. And if lost lives are still a concern, evacuate any nearby area first which could possibly see dangerous debris falling (though again, the heavy part of the balloon will fall straight down).
The truth is that the Biden Administration is terrified of China, He is like the tight-passive fish at the poker table who never bluffs, and always telegraphs his hand to where he's basically playing face up. Lost in the whole Russia/Ukraine mess is the fact that Biden stated at one point that the US won't do very much if Russia invades Ukraine. That's all Putin needed to hear.
China has run right over us, Iran is getting arrogant again after Trump humiliated them into submission 3 years ago, the Middle-East situation is deteriorating again (after Trump made major inroads), and Russia knows that Biden is a foreign policy bitch. And let's not even get into the disaster on our southern border.
Imagine being so weak to where a hostile country's spy balloon is floating over rural land in your own fucking country, and you won't shoot it down. The message being sent is, "Yes, we know you're spying on us with a balloon over our homeland, but we really really really really want you to know we want peace, so we're just gonna let it go and tell you we disapprove."
Trump had lots of faults, but the best part of his Presidency was foreign policy. He did everything right, Biden has done everything wrong.
I pretty much agree with all this, except I mean, they're doing way more spying with tik tok, unbelievable amounts of data, a fucking dumbass balloon stinks of a huge distractionHere's what a "senior defense official" says:
Why not shoot it down? We have to do the risk-reward here, So the first question is, does it pose a threat, a physical kinetic threat, to individuals in the United States in the US homeland? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a threat to civilian aviation? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a significantly enhanced threat on the intelligence side? Our best assessment right now is that it does not. So given that profile, we assess the risk of downing it, even if the probability is low in a sparsely populated area of the debris falling and hurting someone or damaging property, that it wasn’t worth it.
What a dumb excuse.
Do they really believe nobody has been to Montana? It is an extremely sparsely populated state. Despite its large geographic size, it's one of the few states which still only has one area code (406).
There would be many opportunities to shoot this thing down. Just wait until it is away from a population area (which is easy in Montana), shoot down the balloon portion, and the heavy/dangerous stuff will fall straight down like a rock.
I love how they're concerned about "damaging property". C'mon, man! On the off chance it damages property on the ground, the government can easily afford to pay for it. And if lost lives are still a concern, evacuate any nearby area first which could possibly see dangerous debris falling (though again, the heavy part of the balloon will fall straight down).
The truth is that the Biden Administration is terrified of China, He is like the tight-passive fish at the poker table who never bluffs, and always telegraphs his hand to where he's basically playing face up. Lost in the whole Russia/Ukraine mess is the fact that Biden stated at one point that the US won't do very much if Russia invades Ukraine. That's all Putin needed to hear.
China has run right over us, Iran is getting arrogant again after Trump humiliated them into submission 3 years ago, the Middle-East situation is deteriorating again (after Trump made major inroads), and Russia knows that Biden is a foreign policy bitch. And let's not even get into the disaster on our southern border.
Imagine being so weak to where a hostile country's spy balloon is floating over rural land in your own fucking country, and you won't shoot it down. The message being sent is, "Yes, we know you're spying on us with a balloon over our homeland, but we really really really really want you to know we want peace, so we're just gonna let it go and tell you we disapprove."
Trump had lots of faults, but the best part of his Presidency was foreign policy. He did everything right, Biden has done everything wrong.
Here's what a "senior defense official" says:
Why not shoot it down? We have to do the risk-reward here, So the first question is, does it pose a threat, a physical kinetic threat, to individuals in the United States in the US homeland? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a threat to civilian aviation? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a significantly enhanced threat on the intelligence side? Our best assessment right now is that it does not. So given that profile, we assess the risk of downing it, even if the probability is low in a sparsely populated area of the debris falling and hurting someone or damaging property, that it wasn’t worth it.
What a dumb excuse.
Do they really believe nobody has been to Montana? It is an extremely sparsely populated state. Despite its large geographic size, it's one of the few states which still only has one area code (406).
There would be many opportunities to shoot this thing down. Just wait until it is away from a population area (which is easy in Montana), shoot down the balloon portion, and the heavy/dangerous stuff will fall straight down like a rock.
I love how they're concerned about "damaging property". C'mon, man! On the off chance it damages property on the ground, the government can easily afford to pay for it. And if lost lives are still a concern, evacuate any nearby area first which could possibly see dangerous debris falling (though again, the heavy part of the balloon will fall straight down).
The truth is that the Biden Administration is terrified of China, He is like the tight-passive fish at the poker table who never bluffs, and always telegraphs his hand to where he's basically playing face up. Lost in the whole Russia/Ukraine mess is the fact that Biden stated at one point that the US won't do very much if Russia invades Ukraine. That's all Putin needed to hear.
China has run right over us, Iran is getting arrogant again after Trump humiliated them into submission 3 years ago, the Middle-East situation is deteriorating again (after Trump made major inroads), and Russia knows that Biden is a foreign policy bitch. And let's not even get into the disaster on our southern border.
Imagine being so weak to where a hostile country's spy balloon is floating over rural land in your own fucking country, and you won't shoot it down. The message being sent is, "Yes, we know you're spying on us with a balloon over our homeland, but we really really really really want you to know we want peace, so we're just gonna let it go and tell you we disapprove."
Trump had lots of faults, but the best part of his Presidency was foreign policy. He did everything right, Biden has done everything wrong.
Very well said!
Yes, Tiktok is a major issue as well. Never understood why this is allowed to go on.
Fear propaganda update
https://twitter.com/twt/status/1621673176718610432
Druff characterizing Biden as passive is a novel take. Biden is itching for a scrap at every turn. Druff, while you’re on TikTok view a few Biden shit talk videos regarding Ukraine for a familiarization with that phony tough guy’s act.
Trump kept his enemies close and was a pretty good diplomat. He wasn’t a neocon philosophically.
Lol, Blinken CANCELLING a China visit at this moment.
If he can light the Taiwan tinderbox he prolly thinks he’s good for 4 more. I mean who hasn’t Biden pissed off?
Pentagon and Biden. Gotta admit I’m impressed by the shallowness of the theater and the fact that it’s working.
Last edited by Sanlmar; 02-03-2023 at 08:29 PM.
Big mistake, these are Chinese lanterns laced with a double dose of the latest virus ( know as duh) for unvaccinated Americans.Yes, Tiktok is a major issue as well. Never understood why this is allowed to go on.
Give 'em a warning shot first:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1621625450475708417
POKER FAG ALERT! FOR BLOW JOB SEE SLOPPY JOE THE TRANNIE HO.
NEW: U.S. authorities were aware of the Chinese surveillance balloon six days ago, but Biden decided to not inform the American public (Bloomberg).
Agree with your description of Trump. I actually thought he did a great job handling Kim Jong Un. Instead of puffing out his chest and trying to humiliate/agitate the guy, instead he met with him and treated him like a legit world leader. That's a lot of what Kim John Un wanted. Made him a lot easier to deal with, because he felt like Trump was treating him with respect, yet at the same time Trump never projected any fear of him. Trump brought a lot of that same energy into Middle East matters.Fear propaganda update
https://twitter.com/twt/status/1621673176718610432
Druff characterizing Biden as passive is a novel take. Biden is itching for a scrap at every turn. Druff, while you’re on TikTok view a few Biden shit talk videos regarding Ukraine for a familiarization with that phony tough guy’s act.
Trump kept his enemies close and was a pretty good diplomat. He wasn’t a neocon philosophically.
Lol, Blinken CANCELLING a China visit at this moment.
If he can light the Taiwan tinderbox he prolly thinks he’s good for 4 more. I mean who hasn’t Biden pissed off?
Pentagon and Biden. Gotta admit I’m impressed by the shallowness of the theater and the fact that it’s working.
I disagree with you about Biden looking for a scrap. Biden likes to posture at times, but then he gives off obvious tells that he's full of hot air. Democrats in general are generally bad at foreign policy, as they are too big on both making concessions and being predictable. Enemy/rival leaders LOVE when the US is predictable with its foreign policy. It's really the same concept regarding why I'd much rather have a tight-passive poker player to my left than a loose-aggressive one.
Biden's foreign policy is basically pretending you're tough while acting obviously fearful and predictable. That's a disaster. The only unpredictable move from Biden was the abrupt withdrawal from Afghanistan, and you saw how that went.
You just have to look at the way our adversarial countries treated the US during the Trump years, versus the way they're acting during the Biden years. Very different. Our enemies were full of confidence once Biden was elected.
Remember the Soleimani situation with Iran? The guy was a career terrorist and a murderer. Yet at the same time, he was one of the most popular people in Iran. Democrats warned Trump not to touch him, as they feared it could set off an endless war. Trump reasoned that Iran was too afraid of the US to start a war, and that we could kill Soleimani without consequence. He also felt it would send a strong message to countries supporting terrorism against the US, that we will kill leaders who do this. On January 3, 2020, Trump himself ordered Soleimani killed when the chance came up, and the deed was done. Democrats panicked and said this was a huge mistake. Iran basically did nothing about it. Trump was correct. When the smoke cleared, Trump was flying high, and was considered a -190 favorite to be reelected. Then a little virus showed up later that month, and everything changed. But if Hillary were President, Soleimani would still be alive and doing his usual Soleimani things.
Nothing unpredictable about it.
Trump initially gave the order to withdraw all troops from Afghanistan. I’m fucking glad he did too. He had the stones to end that debacle. We’d still be there otherwise.
That the Pentagon fucked that exit up is unfortunate but I view it as an acceptable loss.
Kim John Un was classic Trump. I tip my cap. If Trump was in the White House Ukraine doesn’t happen. Something would’ve been negotiated. At the very least an ATTEMPT to negotiate would’ve been made. Biden saw this as a beautiful opportunity for conflict with Russia. His (the neocons) reasons for conflict were myriad.
Last edited by Sanlmar; 02-03-2023 at 09:57 PM.
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