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    Did Eric Persson cancel a player on Hustler Casino Live?

    https://twitter.com/#!/x/status/1612671258466082819

    Poker Twitter is claiming that Eric Persson didn't like being trolled and had a player removed from the Hustler Casino Live game. Eric wasn't even in the game.

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    at this point, any 'controversy' that happens on hustler casino live cannot be taken seriously.

    its all manufactured drama from well-known real estate scammer nick vertucci and his team of shady degenerates.

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    Batman BACK

    https://twitter.com/#!/x/status/1612908437545029633


    I don't know if this was staged or not. I guess Batman and Persson appeared on Nick Vertucci's show to each give their side.

    On a side note, I am guessing that Persson does roids.

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    Go to 22:13 to hear Vertucci confirm that he booted Batman at Persson's request. Bad precedent.

    Eric's explanation starts at 0:54

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    So I watched some of this trainwreck show.

    Persson is claiming that he wasn't mad about Batman's gag about the Persson tip jar, but rather was angry that when he talked trash back via the chat room, and paid $100 to have it appear prominently via "Super Chat" (on YouTube), he found his messages removed by Hustler Casino Live mods.

    So he says his issue was with Ryan Feldman, but claimed he already resolved it, as Ryan claimed it was done by an unknown chat mod, and it won't happen again.

    I call bullshit. If that were the case, he wouldn't have demanded Batman being off the stream, but rather just demanded they stop deleting his messages. Here it appears he demanded both.

    He also seems super pissed at Batman in general, and feels Batman is manufacturing a rivalry with him in order to build up his own name. This is probably true, but that's what happens when you're one of the better known players on the stream. Nobody is forcing Eric to play on these streams and get all this publicity.

    Overall Eric is coming off as a whiner and a crybaby. Who cares if Batman wants to do these stupid gags about him? Just let it happen and ignore it, if you don't want to play along. I was neutral on him coming into this whole thing, but my opinion has declined after this incident.

     
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    It is really ironic when a bully gets bullied and cries foul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    So I watched some of this trainwreck show.

    Persson is claiming that he wasn't mad about Batman's gag about the Persson tip jar, but rather was angry that when he talked trash back via the chat room, and paid $100 to have it appear prominently via "Super Chat" (on YouTube), he found his messages removed by Hustler Casino Live mods.

    So he says his issue was with Ryan Feldman, but claimed he already resolved it, as Ryan claimed it was done by an unknown chat mod, and it won't happen again.

    I call bullshit. If that were the case, he wouldn't have demanded Batman being off the stream, but rather just demanded they stop deleting his messages. Here it appears he demanded both.

    He also seems super pissed at Batman in general, and feels Batman is manufacturing a rivalry with him in order to build up his own name. This is probably true, but that's what happens when you're one of the better known players on the stream. Nobody is forcing Eric to play on these streams and get all this publicity.

    Overall Eric is coming off as a whiner and a crybaby. Who cares if Batman wants to do these stupid gags about him? Just let it happen and ignore it, if you don't want to play along. I was neutral on him coming into this whole thing, but my opinion has declined after this incident.
    This reminds me of the issues awhile ago with Hellmuth and that older dude who would bring props to the table including baby rattles for Phil. Eventually Phil just went with it. Whatís funny is if you look at pics of Persson from a few yrs ago till now itís clear heís decided to reinvent himself as some middle aged ripoff of Dentale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
    It is really ironic when a bully gets bullied and cries foul.


    Persson came into most people's consciousness when he was super obnoxious with Hellmuith during a PokerGo Heads Up tournament, and rattled Phil to the point where Phil was asking the floor to intervene. Many people felt satisfaction watching this, as Hellmuth has been known for over 30 years to be an asshole to people at the table, and finally he was getting a taste of his own medicine (and losing in the game, too!)

    Persson has since catapulted off of that notoriety by appearing on these streams, basically playing the role of the brash, muscular, in-your-face successful businessman who takes no shit from anyone. That's fine, but if people are going to clown on you back, that's part of the game, and you can't flip out when it happens. You also can't get mad because others attempt to troll you on the stream in order to get noticed themselves.

    In this case, Persson wasn't even there, so who cares? Let Batman talk his shit, and then you can either ignore it or you can respond next time you're on the stream with him.

    During his appearance on Vertucci's show, Persson actually uttered a Will Smith style "keep my name out of your fucking mouth", and wasn't even being ironic. Talk about taking yourself too seriously.


    Oh, does anyone know the relationship between that rich Keating guy and Persson? It was implied during Nick's show that Persson was the one who brought Keating to the stream, and could potentially convince Keating to leave if he were unhappy. BTW, from what I've seen, Keating is better than he appears, and enjoys playing the role of the fish so people will give him more action. But the guy seems to have a ton of money at a fairly young age (mid-30s) and I'd love to know the story behind that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftpjesus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    So I watched some of this trainwreck show.

    Persson is claiming that he wasn't mad about Batman's gag about the Persson tip jar, but rather was angry that when he talked trash back via the chat room, and paid $100 to have it appear prominently via "Super Chat" (on YouTube), he found his messages removed by Hustler Casino Live mods.

    So he says his issue was with Ryan Feldman, but claimed he already resolved it, as Ryan claimed it was done by an unknown chat mod, and it won't happen again.

    I call bullshit. If that were the case, he wouldn't have demanded Batman being off the stream, but rather just demanded they stop deleting his messages. Here it appears he demanded both.

    He also seems super pissed at Batman in general, and feels Batman is manufacturing a rivalry with him in order to build up his own name. This is probably true, but that's what happens when you're one of the better known players on the stream. Nobody is forcing Eric to play on these streams and get all this publicity.

    Overall Eric is coming off as a whiner and a crybaby. Who cares if Batman wants to do these stupid gags about him? Just let it happen and ignore it, if you don't want to play along. I was neutral on him coming into this whole thing, but my opinion has declined after this incident.
    This reminds me of the issues awhile ago with Hellmuth and that older dude who would bring props to the table including baby rattles for Phil. Eventually Phil just went with it. Whatís funny is if you look at pics of Persson from a few yrs ago till now itís clear heís decided to reinvent himself as some middle aged ripoff of Dentale.
    Actually Dentale is middle-aged as well. I think he's a little older than Persson.

    But speaking of that, I mentioned I thought Persson was on roids, and if he is, that might explain some of this hotheaded behavior. I believe Persson is 47, and it's not easy at that age to just suddenly build muscle out of nowhere. When I see buff-looking guys over 40, I assume it's roids if they don't otherwise seem to have the physique of someone who regularly works out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ftpjesus View Post

    This reminds me of the issues awhile ago with Hellmuth and that older dude who would bring props to the table including baby rattles for Phil. Eventually Phil just went with it. Whatís funny is if you look at pics of Persson from a few yrs ago till now itís clear heís decided to reinvent himself as some middle aged ripoff of Dentale.
    Actually Dentale is middle-aged as well. I think he's a little older than Persson.

    But speaking of that, I mentioned I thought Persson was on roids, and if he is, that might explain some of this hotheaded behavior. I believe Persson is 47, and it's not easy at that age to just suddenly build muscle out of nowhere. When I see buff-looking guys over 40, I assume it's roids if they don't otherwise seem to have the physique of someone who regularly works out.
    Looked it up Persson is I believe just a year younger then I am (hes listed at 48) and will turn 49 this year (2023). Im surprised but it appears Dentale is older then us at 52.

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    I donít think itís anabolic roids. My guess is HGH and/or testosterone. He seems open and confident about his choices and the HGH/test ďregimenĒ allows one to look in the mirror and say ďIím not on roidsĒ.

    Keating may have hit BIG with crypto. Aussie Matt Kirk did too, for like 660mm at one point, but he dusted it cuz too much gamble. I doubt Keating would make the same choices and wouldnít risk much of his net worth in any spot, as he seems to respect what the gambling gods are capable of, if pressing way too much. Hard not to like the guy.

    Funny how the Persson/Batman thing is akin to a mediocre nationally known rapper going on FB Live, scolding an aspiring rapper for clowning him in a verse just so he can get clapped back at and increase his profile.

    Yes, I wrote clapped back at

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    just listened to the radio segment on perrson.
    perrson is such a narcissistic douchebag, no wonder him and vertucci get along.

    batman having to listen to a lecture about responsible gaming from that guy must have been surreal.
    i hope perrson gets needled about this everytime he sits at a table.

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    perrson claims he wants to help batman because he thinks he has a gambling problem...

    in an hcl stream perrson was doing some type of obnoxious self promotion and haralabos said something like 'how do you feel about ruining peoples lives' persson immediately responded 'wrong guy, i dont care about that'

    listening to him preach to batman about gambling was so cringe inducing.

    i believe this is the stream

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    while listening to eric spew his nonsense excuse for the way he acting while at the same time trying to make batman look pathetic and himself like a pillar of morality i thought to myself -
    isn't this guy a business owner? he must be a complete nightmare to work for. his business must be filled with toxic leadership with constant turnover.

    so i checked maverick gaming glassdoor....

    much like other review sites, glassdoor has a lot of shilling. ive worked at companies where we were asked to shill to help attract more talent.
    a company can respond to negative reviews, and have them removed if they are clearly disgruntled past employees.
    so seeing consistent negative reviews of a company over a relatively short time frame if a HUGE red flag for anyone looking at potential employers.
    its especially noticeable when multiple reviews mention the same events - something like a change in leadership or shift in company direction.

    reading through the reviews its pretty clear that maverick gaming/eric purchased a bunch of small casinos in WA with no idea how to run them. reviews describe a toxic work environment with no direction, high turnover and very questionable policies regarding compensation.

    perrson is as big a piece of shit as vertucci. they are so much alike.
    'fake it til you make it' at its finest.
    lots of words and absolutely no substance.
    immediately attack others who touch on their insecurities (vertucci vs berkey when berkey exposed how awful nick's security is at hcl, eric vs batman)
    its going to be so fun to watch both of these clowns fall apart in very public ways.


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    maybe perrson was projecting his own issues onto batman
    • awful at poker
    • playing with people way better than him
    • very unlikeable


    the only part missing are the alleged money issues that perrson tried to embarrass batman with.
    wouldn't be surprised to see perrson slowly disappear from poker as he realizes how losing millions while acting like an entitled douchebag isn't great for the maverick gaming 'brand'.

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    This is where I saw this going. Eric was clearly pissed off and notably at Ryan. He was conspicuously absent from the next big game Hustler is having on Feb 13. Then today PokerGo comes out with this:

    https://twitter.com/#!/x/status/1622686569034547200

    It’s kind of crazy that it took Eric putting together this game (which he basically admits on Twitter) for PokerGo to take their head out of their ass and stream this live. This may be a one off or a once in a while thing. Ryan I’m sure isn’t happy about it because you can tell he’s ultra competitive. But it’s pretty amazing how the dominoes fell here. I’m sure Eric insisted on this not being behind the paywall.

    Hustler will remain the king. PokerGo would have to get rid of the paywall to compete and that’s just not happening. But interesting how this whole thing went down. I really think a lot of Eric’s motivation was to burn Huatler’s ass a bit. Feb 17 also has to be a Friday night. So Hustler will be streaming their high stakes game at the same time.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    This is where I saw this going. Eric was clearly pissed off and notably at Ryan. He was conspicuously absent from the next big game Hustler is having on Feb 13. Then today PokerGo comes out with this:

    https://twitter.com/#!/x/status/1622686569034547200

    Itís kind of crazy that it took Eric putting together this game (which he basically admits on Twitter) for PokerGo to take their head out of their ass and stream this live. This may be a one off or a once in a while thing. Ryan Iím sure isnít happy about it because you can tell heís ultra competitive. But itís pretty amazing how the dominoes fell here. Iím sure Eric insisted on this not being behind the paywall.

    Hustler will remain the king. PokerGo would have to get rid of the paywall to compete and thatís just not happening. But interesting how this whole thing went down. I really think a lot of Ericís motivation was to burn Huatlerís ass a bit. Feb 17 also has to be a Friday night. So Hustler will be streaming their high stakes game at the same time.
    Vertucci made his choice. Eric made his feelings clear that if Mr Doctor Batman DJ wannabe came back he wouldnt return I honestly think this will be a bad choice on Nick's Part honestly. People would rather see EP spew 100s of Thousands at the table then the other guy in the end. EP for all his faults and shit is verbally entertaining much more then MDB and probably the best at it well beyond the word play of Kassouf (who was just flat aggrivating and I believe angle shooting most of the time with his verbal diarrhea). And of course Perrson is one of the few folks who has the apparent bankroll to rival Adelstein's ability to put money on the table. (NikAirball clearly has a big cash wad but he still deep down I dont think he has EPs kinda of FU money).

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    The major error HCL did was allow that tip jar and the needing from MD Batman on Max Pain Monday. It was a big error to not get clearance before hand from Eric. Sometimes you just got to swallow your pride in life and MD Batman should of been told to do so. Yes, it’s impossible to have foreseen that Eric would of taken it so badly that the whole shit show devolved into what happened. But anyone who saw the initial interaction when Eric stacked the guy, probably should of said let’s move on and keep Eric out of your mouth.

    Nick & Ryan did make the decision to remove Mr DB from the show. However, on his podcast the next day it was clear Eric was not “over it”. He particularly mentioned having a problem with Feldman. So Nick did try to squash this, but I think Eric was going to stick it to Hustler one way or another regardless. He felt disrespected. It will be interesting to see the numbers of viewers that night. PokerGo is getting 100X the engagement on Twitter it typically does.

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    I think its interesting that once upon a time MTV was all about music videos and eventually became a formulaic teen TV Shows filled with made up drama for entertainment.

    Fast forward 20 or so years

    Once upon a time we had high stakes poker which was all about the poker and big stacks and eventualy became a formulaic mid 40ís Dude show about made up drama for entertainment.

     
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