where did tyde's shogun thread go?

[sonatine]

dude really called out a winner in it.


fucking great series.

[Dive_Bar_Dave]

Yeah, I like it. Plus, hot asian chicks.

[BCR]

Didn’t want to open thread until I watched the last episode. I really enjoyed it.

That original book cover is one of my earlier memories. I recall it being a fixture in my house for what seemed like six months when my parents read it. I was like 5 and the samurai sword on the cover drew my curiosity.

Then the mini-series came out when I was like 10 and it was basically Roots:Japan. Huge mini-series event where I can recall us all sitting there every night for two weeks watching it. Roots and Shogun were huge cultural events.

Thinking about those 70s and 80s mini-series events, I actually think of those as kind of the first Netflix style series. Eight or ten episodes where they aired every night and you were at the end within a few weeks. The first binge watch sensations except your ass had to be on the couch at 8PM every night.

I did a deep dive on the original when this came out and it seems they stuck pretty close. I could remember the themes of the mini-series. White guy in Japan, warring clans, geishas, seppuku, all of that. I couldn’t really remember the storyline behind the themes. I can’t remember how they handled the interpreter Mariko part of original series. Subtitles weren’t a big 1980 thing outside arthouse theaters. I’m guessing the other characters spoke Japanese and she translated everything they said.

When I was reading about the original, the girl who played Mariko seemed to have a rough life. Went from first Japanese Golden Globe winner to poverty and doing nude photo books and eventually it sounds like porn at nearly 60 years old. Died of colon cancer couple years ago in poverty and the state had to pay for her cremation. With that trajectory, she might as well have moved to LA.

I’ve went through various periods of being fascinated with Japanese culture at different points. Kind of surprised I never circled back to Shogun. I really enjoyed this adaptation though. Well made.

[Sanlmar]

Your mother was watching Shogun for Richard Chamberlain. He was a heart throb.

During the 1980’s mini series romp you also had The Thorn Birds with Richard Chamberlain. My parents had the book lying around and I read it. Fantastic. The book crushed the mini series. I was a kid burdened with strict Catholic parents so corruption appealed to my naïveté, I guess

Watching this Shogun on Hulu I several times thought this actor had the same Richard Chamberlain vibe. I loved it too.

[BCR]

Your mother was watching Shogun for Richard Chamberlain.

During the 1980’s mini series romp you also had The Thorn Birds with Richard Chamberlain. My parents had the book lying around and I read it. Fantastic. The book crushed the mini series.

Watching this Shogun on Hulu I several times thought this actor had the same Richard Chamberlain vibe. I loved it too.

She may have been. That’s the only actor I recalled. I remember The Thorn Birds, but I don’t recall her crushing on him or any of us watching it. I do remember her crushing on Kris Kristofferson during that Star is Born era and wearing me the fuck out on that soundtrack. Also that Streisand Barry Gibb album. I still know the words to that Woman in Love song when I come across it and I sure as hell know I didn’t want to know the words. We were all captive to everyone’s interests pre-tech. She probably knows words to Van Halen songs.

[Sanlmar]

Your mother was watching Shogun for Richard Chamberlain.

During the 1980’s mini series romp you also had The Thorn Birds with Richard Chamberlain. My parents had the book lying around and I read it. Fantastic. The book crushed the mini series.

Watching this Shogun on Hulu I several times thought this actor had the same Richard Chamberlain vibe. I loved it too.

She may have been. That’s the only actor I recalled. I remember The Thorn Birds, but I don’t recall her crushing on him or any of us watching it. I do remember her crushing on Kris Kristofferson during that Star is Born era and wearing me the fuck out on that soundtrack. Also that Streisand Barry Gibb album. I still know the words to that Woman in Love song when I come across it and I sure as hell know I didn’t want to know the words. We were all captive to everyone’s interests pre-tech. She probably knows words to Van Halen songs.

lol

I dug into Kris Kristofferson once. He was pretty damn surprising. Viet Nam. Helicopters. Rhodes Scholar like Bill Clinton (Ben Bradley Knicks). Me and Bobby McGee.

My kids were similarly imprinted with my music which I think is hilarious.

[BCR]

She may have been. That’s the only actor I recalled. I remember The Thorn Birds, but I don’t recall her crushing on him or any of us watching it. I do remember her crushing on Kris Kristofferson during that Star is Born era and wearing me the fuck out on that soundtrack. Also that Streisand Barry Gibb album. I still know the words to that Woman in Love song when I come across it and I sure as hell know I didn’t want to know the words. We were all captive to everyone’s interests pre-tech. She probably knows words to Van Halen songs.

lol

I dug into Kris Kristofferson once. He was pretty damn surprising. Viet Nam. Helicopters. Rhodes Scholar like Bill Clinton (Ben Bradley Knicks). Me and Bobby McGee.

My kids were similarly imprinted with my music which I think is hilarious.

Disco was particularly traumatic. My parents were only 29 in 1977. I was just laughing about this a month ago with my buddy Kevin when we were out. He grew up a few doors down. We’d come in from beating the hell out of each other outside and if my dad was at work, my mom would grab us to be disco dancing partners in my basement and she was serious business. I can recall her grabbing me by my shirt as I was trying to get back outside and saying “just one more.”

A couple of 7/8 year olds. Me and my buddy killed it with that shit a decade later. People would throw it on at some wedding in the 80s and we’d be dancing with the moms and pretty soon they’d be throwing their daughters at us. It was all muscle memory to us. Now kids can’t make eye contact. This probably belongs in the when shit went wrong thread.

[Sanlmar]

@BCR For me, a conversation that takes you from Shogun to disco

Definitely will do a beer with you before we log off.