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    BTW, this is how out of touch today's Democrats are regarding the violent crime issue.

    Here's an article from Jean Guerrero of the LA Times: https://news.yahoo.com/guerrero-wake...110012240.html (note that there's no paywall, as Yahoo reposted it)

    The title of the article seems to make sense: "Wake up, Democrats. Don't let Republicans own the issue of violent crime"

    That title is actually correct. Democrats do need to "wake up" and tackle the violent crime issue, or they will get their lunch eaten at each election whenever crime is a big issue. After the 1994 midterm beatdown, where again crime was a major concern, Democrats DID wake up, and they turned things around. However, they woke up by supporting anti-crime measures typically only championed by Republicans, including the now-maligned-by-the-left 1994 crime bill. This bill was signed by Clinton in September 1994 as a last-ditch attempt to prevent a midterm beatdown. It was too late, but for a few years, Democrats were a lot warmer to cracking down on violent criminals with stiffer sentences and more cops on the street.

    It's been 28 years since 1994. A lot has changed, and Democrats are softer on crime than ever. They have been attempting to hide the ball for years, with misleading statements seeking to avoid blame for their increasingly weak stance on dealing with violent criminals, and the consequences borne from it:


    CLAIM: "The violent crime crisis is an invention of Fox News and the GOP propaganda machine. Violent crime is far less than it was 20 years ago."

    FACT: There was a 23-year trend of declining violent crime from 1991 to 2014. Then, after the Ferguson riots, Democrats and the media took an anti-cop and anti-law-and-order stance, which changed everything, and caused the trend to reverse. Violent crime is now substantially higher than it was in 2013, and it is especially increasing quickly in the inner cities, and disproportionately affecting minorities.



    CLAIM: "Democrats are not soft on violent crime. That is a false Republican talking point, and there is no evidence to show this."

    FACT: Every single tough-on-crime measure -- longer sentences, mandatory minimum sentencing, three strikes, death penalty, tougher parole requirements, longer sentencing for repeat offenders, increased police presence, etc -- are supported by almost all Republicans and opposed by almost all Democrats. Every soft-on-crime measure -- cashless bail, compassionate release for dying murderers, attempted rehabilitation for repeat sex offenders, and defunding police in favor of social programs, are supported almost exclusively by Democrats and opposed by almost every Republican. If you are a violent criminal, Democratic crime policies are very beneficial to you.



    CLAIM: "We have a mass incarceration problem in the US. This is the Republican war on people of color."

    FACT: While the US has far more incarceration than other first world countries, it's because the US has a lot more crime than other first world countries. The number of people incarcerated for long periods of time for minor crimes is very low, and in fact we have the opposite problem -- career criminals repeatedly getting back out after serving a few months. Mass incarceration is not a problem if the people being incarcerated really committed the crimes, and were sentenced fairly.



    CLAIM: "Social programs to stop violent crime before it starts are what we need, not more police."

    FACT: This was already tried from the '60s through '80s, and failed miserably. While this could be tried again, it should never be in place of strong policing, which was proven to work from 1991-2014.



    CLAIM: "Gun control would solve the violent crime problem."

    FACT: It would make it worse. Criminals would get their guns underground, and they would know law-abiding people can't defend themselves.



    Anyway, the article I linked makes the case that social programs and gun control are the solution to our violent crime issues, and Democrats shouldn't let Republicans own the message about violent crime. LOL at that. People are fed up with criminals taking over their cities, and then getting released immediately on cashless bail when they commit crimes. They're tired of woke DAs who openly state they won't prosecute entire classes of crimes.

    As long as Democrats remain in denial about the violent crime issue, Republicans will keep winning.

    If you want to make a Democrat's head spin, ask them, "Will you openly state on social media that you support tough sentencing for repeat violent criminals and repeat sex offenders?" Then watch al the excuses start.

    I also enjoy asking left wing feminists if they want that they want serial rapists imprisoned for life. And when they say yes, I ask them why they vote for Democratic candidates who are almost all opposed to this. Heads explode.

    I also enjoy asking Democrats why they don't support long sentencing for violent criminals, given that the victims of such crimes are disproportionately black and Hispanic. No answer for that one, either.

    Democrats have a very hard time rationally explaining their stance on violent crime.

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    Breaking: Up to 15 locations reported in Maricopa County with “tabulator malfunctions.”

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    #BREAKING All voting machines are down in each district across Mercer County, New Jersey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler View Post
    538/NYT is now predicting a 30% chance of 56-44 Senate.

    That is how bad it is for the groomers.
    Where are the 56 going to come from?

    Assuming all big R leaders go on to win, the GOP would need 7 additional victories.

    They will probably win in PA, NV, and GA. Might win in AZ and NH. But that's only 54.

    They would need CO and WA to make 56, and those are looking pretty unlikely. Keep in mind CO has been trending bluer with each election.

    I think the best realistic case for the GOP is 54-46, and the worst case is 49-51, though 54 is a lot more likely than 49, because that would require the GOP to lose both PA and GA (plus all the others I listed), which isn't likely at this point.

    I still think Drazan wins in OR and becomes the first R governor there in 40 years. However, the last two polls showing some D voters who went to Johnson (Independent) "coming home" reluctantly to Kotek. So I guess we'll see.

    Kathy Hochul could be the shock loser in NY, similar to 1994 when Pataki surprised Mario Cuomo. In 1994, aside from a red wave coming throughout the country, Cuomo also had the problem of lacking support outside of NYC. That might be the same issue this time, except it might be even worse in NYC, as the city has turned to absolute shit under Democratic rule recently. NYC was also shit in 1994, but rebounded in the mid-90s (thanks to Rudy Giuliani, who doesn't get enough credit for it).

    The mail-in voting is going to create a huge hassle again, with conspiracy theories galore. The problem is that uncounted mail-in ballots, which favor Democrats, will be the latest votes tallied, thus making it appear like the election was "stolen" in close ones which go to Democrats. They really need to just do away with this shit. Even if the security of such voting isn't a problem (which I have my doubts about), it's bad optics at a time when trust in our electoral process is at an all-time low. Furthermore, early voting fucks up the election, as late-breaking changes (such as Fetterman's horrible debate performance) become less impactful. There's a reason we have an election day.

    Anyway, I think tomorrow will be a better-than-expected day for Republicans. I have a feeling that people are afraid to reveal their true feelings to pollsters, given the social media shaming that goes on against the GOP nowadays. If you work for a company where your chances for advancement will be hindered by admitting you vote Republican, you might just lie to a pollster, as that's the safest way to go about things.

    Nevada might be a dark horse for Democrats to unexpectedly win. While I think the GOP will take both the gubernatorial and Senate races, I wouldn't be shocked to see this go to the Dems. Nevada kinda beats to its own drum. Remember, it was one of just two "swing" states (the other being Colorado) where Hillary outperformed polling expectations.

    https://twitter.com/ozymandias31803/status/1590056695111512066

    https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1590097457601396737
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    Florida gonna be a gigantic beatdown in favor of DeSantis.

    Concerned about AZ and NH Senate races though, especially NH.

    OR governor race looking questionable also, but we'll see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Florida gonna be a gigantic beatdown in favor of DeSantis.

    Concerned about AZ and NH Senate races though, especially NH.

    OR governor race looking questionable also, but we'll see...

    If Kari Lake wins by 10-12 you really think Masters will lose? No chance. NH is a different story, almost only race where they have blue in the lead. And that is a blue state at it's core.

    But look at these polls from today......I mean it doesn't get any better than this.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

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    In what should be a surprise to absolutely nobody with a IQ over 42 NBC has called DeSantis and Rubio by rear naked choke at :32 seconds in the very first round.


    What the democrats should be terrified about is for all the talk about texas slowly turning blue over time they have completely lost Florida as a Deep Red State in 4 years time.

    If DeSantis and Rubio are winning Miami by 10/15 points we wont elect a democratic president again anytime soon.

    This means democrats really need PA/OH/MI to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post

    I just saw crist get booed off the stage inside of 5 minutes of the debate start. Trying to tell the crowd ron was wrong on covid.

    Anything that isn't -500 on ron is a good bet

    Can’t really take a “entertained” bow for this one. Obvious

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    Such bullshit how New Hampshire has been invaded and conquered by all the Massholes moving there over the past decade. Moving there to make yet another place a hell hole just like where they left from, FOR IT BEING A HELLHOLE THEY CREATED. Absolutely disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler View Post
    Such bullshit how New Hampshire has been invaded and conquered by all the Massholes moving there over the past decade. Moving there to make yet another place a hell hole just like where they left from, FOR IT BEING A HELLHOLE THEY CREATED. Absolutely disgusting.
    I think you might be referring to NO STATE INCOME TAX? You could also be referring to the ultimate phase out of investment income tax soon.

    Not sure

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    seth magaziner(d) won in rhode island which should have been an easy r win if this was a red wave... weird....
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    seth magaziner(d) won in rhode island which should have been an easy r win if this was a red wave... weird....

    I mean AOC won too. Maybe you onto something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    In what should be a surprise to absolutely nobody with a IQ over 42 NBC has called DeSantis and Rubio by rear naked choke at :32 seconds in the very first round.


    What the democrats should be terrified about is for all the talk about texas slowly turning blue over time they have completely lost Florida as a Deep Red State in 4 years time.

    If DeSantis and Rubio are winning Miami by 10/15 points we wont elect a democratic president again anytime soon.

    This means democrats really need PA/OH/MI to win.
    Little Marco & Ron DeSanctimonious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    In what should be a surprise to absolutely nobody with a IQ over 42 NBC has called DeSantis and Rubio by rear naked choke at :32 seconds in the very first round.


    What the democrats should be terrified about is for all the talk about texas slowly turning blue over time they have completely lost Florida as a Deep Red State in 4 years time.

    If DeSantis and Rubio are winning Miami by 10/15 points we wont elect a democratic president again anytime soon.

    This means democrats really need PA/OH/MI to win.
    Little Marco & Ron DeSanctimonious

    Nov 15th - Mar-a-Lago. Prepare your body and protect your children. Let’s get ready to rumble

    We will deal with it when we get there.

    I cant get my mind around that he will run. Best thing would be for him to drop dead and let Ron run.

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    Bad night for MAGA so far.

    DeSantis will probably win by 20.

    Say hello to a big 2024 primary battle.

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