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[PositiveVariance]

I think Robbi knows that tugging on Garrett’s heart strings (Congratulating him and his wife on their child) may be the only real chance she has to collect.

I absolutely think Garrett should pay Robbi, however I do not think he will, since in HIS eyes he will be surrendering.

From a legal standpoint, I can’t think of a legitimate argument Robbi would have. I’m sure she will claim she was “Coerced” into paying him. One big problem for Robbi is that she has repeated the Story many times about what was said when “Garrett pulled her to the side”. She didn’t seem forced. From what I recall (most likely after she spoke to attorney husband) the words “Dark Hallway” were then added to the description.

To be honest, I think Garrett’s pride means more to him than his reputation. I could see Garrett spending 200k to save $135k. I think it’s possible he spends every dollar needed to litigate it to death. Ultimately, if he spends more than $135k in legal fees, but doesn’t have to pay Robbi anything, in HIS eyes, he “won”. He can then say, see guys, “I was right”.

[cyberbabble]

Vertucci has posted a 3 hour Youtube interview with Robbi.

I'll let somebody else watch it and report back.

[ftpjesus]

I think Robbi knows that tugging on Garrett’s heart strings (Congratulating him and his wife on their child) may be the only real chance she has to collect.

I absolutely think Garrett should pay Robbi, however I do not think he will, since in HIS eyes he will be surrendering.

From a legal standpoint, I can’t think of a legitimate argument Robbi would have. I’m sure she will claim she was “Coerced” into paying him. One big problem for Robbi is that she has repeated the Story many times about what was said when “Garrett pulled her to the side”. She didn’t seem forced. From what I recall (most likely after she spoke to attorney husband) the words “Dark Hallway” were then added to the description.

To be honest, I think Garrett’s pride means more to him than his reputation. I could see Garrett spending 200k to save $135k. I think it’s possible he spends every dollar needed to litigate it to death. Ultimately, if he spends more than $135k in legal fees, but doesn’t have to pay Robbi anything, in HIS eyes, he “won”. He can then say, see guys, “I was right”.

She was back hallwayed but it wasnt by Garrett initially. She was called off the set to talk to Ryan Feldman who then told her under no uncertain terms she needed to work shit out with Garrett

[JeffDime]

Vertucci has posted a 3 hour Youtube interview with Robbi.

I'll let somebody else watch it and report back.

LOL same. Vertucci’s leading questions to control narrative drive me crazy. But you can’t ask Robbi to many open ending questions because than you will get like 3 questions out in three hours. If I have a long drive I’ll listen.

[JeffDime]

I just kind of listened to the meat of the podcast in the middle and Nick does do a good job interjecting & steering. Have to give credit where credit is due. I think it helps a lot the she is physically there and they are alone. Robbi does need to be reigned in because she can go on forever. All her long form interviews in the past have been done remotely.

There is also the benefit of the “investigation” being over and not finding cheating. So that certainly changes things a lot. Nick is clearly doing both and interview and some PR at the same time. But I can’t blame him. Ever single guest on his podcast is either a regular on the HCL show or connected to HCL in one way or another.

I will say as with the Mikki podcast Berkey gets buried here. Nick knows it’s coming saying “We didn’t discuss this” and then she goes after Berkey. So that is clearly a grudge not going anywhere. I think Veronica leaving the show probably had alot to do wit her relationship with Berkey. Burial at 2:16:04….

It really does get bad and carries on. Nick can’t let this go with Berkey. I find it unfortunate because the interview was better than I expected it and this will put a dark cloud over it. I don’t think Nick could help himself. It looks like he was able to smooth things over with all the other guys that were doing content on this topic but not Matt.

Nick gets his pound of flesh around 2:23:00. Think this is a self serving indulgence that really fucks up his good work through the rest of the interview. I think one rule people should adhere to when they have a platform is to not abuse it to settle personal grudges. Nick prefaced the question, so he knew exactly where he was going. Unfortunate unforced error.

[PositiveVariance]

This is what I think this will come down to…

How much value Robbi puts on a public apology from Garrett.

Obviously as part of a settlement Robbi wants an apology, which she absolutely deserves one. As I said in my previous post, Garrett’s pride is very valuable to him.

I think Garrett would Snap Accept an offer that included the following:
1. Return $135k to Robbi
2. NDA (Non-disclosure Agreement). The terms of the agreement say the dispute was “settled amicably” and neither party is to discuss the terms of the settlement or the fact that Garrett paid Robbi 135k.

If you add an “Apology” from Garrett to Robbi to the above terms and I believe it’s a deal breaker and it changed everything.

So ultimately, I think that apology is “worth” $135k.



Remember “scammer Beanz”, I’m surprised he hasn’t figured out a way to turn this into some cash for himself, in one way or another. Because we know very well Garrett would pay up for “good information”. I’m sure Beanz could make up some “good information” if the price is right.

[turdzilla]

Has Gman returned the money?

[JeffDime]

I got to say…don’t feel bad for Robbi. This whole thing has been her big break. I listened towards the end of the podcast and she talks about all the opportunities being thrown her way. Eerily reminded me of the Mikki interview where he talks about all his opportunities.

She has a Sugar Daddy husband who stays home while she travels and does whatever she wants. Carries on a public affair with this guy RIP. You can tell all she ever wanted to do was be famous. She was running out of time & then this happened. She is still as delusional regarding her poker talent as ever. But you know what…ignorance is bliss. This is a woman loving her life.

Good luck and God bless. Have a blast. But I don’t feel sorry for what she’s gone through for one second. Why? Because I truly believe she loved every second. Is what happened to her that night fucked up? Yes. It shouldn’t have happened like that. But because she went through that few minutes with Garrett it doesn’t make her some kind of victim. To the contrary, she is getting everything she’s ever wanted.

She has not a care in the world. 135K? Take it Garrett, just make sure I don’t get the spotlight taken off me and can continue to play on stream. Meanwhile Garrett’s livelihood, which he built up through his friendship with Feldman playing in these soft lineups, is probably gone forever. Unless he fixes it pronto.

Of course, he can only blame himself. There is no one tougher to play against than an aggressive pro like Garrett. These high stakes streamed games have fundamentally changed without his presence. The game is so much more open with 8 whales, rather than 5 or 6 whales and a killer pro. They don’t have to worry about Garrett constantly putting the pressure on them & they sure as shit don’t miss it.

So at the end of the day Hustler is better off, Robbi is to the fucking moon better off and the players in the high stakes game are better off not dealing with Garrett. It’s all self inflicted wounds, but Garrett is the only one at the end of the day (well I guess except Bryan who stole the chips) who is worse off.

I think there is room for a redemption arc for Garrett. But he will have to swallow his pride & at least 135K. He needs to come out and make an unqualified apology to Robbi along with the 135K. He needs to fall on the fucking sword. If he does, he will be fine. I truly believe that he will be fine, but it has to be the hard way. He will hate every second of it. But deep down he knows, it’s the proper play. Painful…but the right play.

[cyberbabble]

Robbi walked into the storm and has come out the other side. Most people now support her over Garrett. She can get on with her life and her attempt at celebrity.

Even if Garrett returns her money and apologizes he is going to have to put up with a lot before people stop riding him. I don't think he will be back anytime soon.

Robbi will be back on HCL before Garrett.

[JeffDime]

Robbi walked into the storm and has come out the other side. Most people now support her over Garrett. She can get on with her life and her attempt at celebrity.

Even if Garrett returns her money and apologizes he is going to have to put up with a lot before people stop riding him. I don't think he will be back anytime soon.

Robbi will be back on HCL before Garrett.

I don’t think she will be, but if you are right…what’s the over under on every time she wins a big pot off someone they joke “Hey Robbi, you mind coming with me to the backroom real quick?”

[JeffDime]

By the way this Guy DJ Washburn is in Max Pain Monday in full Eric Person attire. Giving out tilt cards. Even has the double stacks. It’s well done but I’m sure it was cleared with Ryan & Eric before it went down. Fell asleep during the Mr. Dr Batman interview. My big takeaway…how does everyone seemingly have so much money to burn and I can’t get -800 golf favorites home? In all seriousness, was a good interview and def went into some stuff we didn’t know about. Looking forward to listening in the archives.

[PositiveVariance]

I was just looking at Players overall results for the Hustler Live Poker Stream. Not to much shock until I got down to Andy Stacks. Andy has played on 37 total shows. He is DOWN $136,160. How is this even possible?

https://www.trackingpoker.com/

When it comes to variance I have a fairly good grasp on what is expected for most forms of AP. For example, if you only have a half percent edge in a game, it can take a long while to “get through variance” until you reach expectation. With say a 5% edge, you will obviously get through variance to your expected outcome much faster.

I do know that poker variance is much different than other forms of AP. I’m not that familiar with variance in poker. With 37 shows, assuming 4 hours per show, he is at roughly 150 hours of play.

So my question for those of you that understand poker variance, is it common for a winning player to be down $136k after 150 hours of play in the softest public game on planet earth? (Yes, I do realize HCL can be considered a public or private game).

He is down about $3,680 per stream or about $900/Hr.

[Dan Druff]

I was just looking at Players overall results for the Hustler Live Poker Stream. Not to much shock until I got down to Andy Stacks. Andy has played on 37 total shows. He is DOWN $136,160. How is this even possible?

https://www.trackingpoker.com/

When it comes to variance I have a fairly good grasp on what is expected for most forms of AP. For example, if you only have a half percent edge in a game, it can take a long while to “get through variance” until you reach expectation. With say a 5% edge, you will obviously get through variance to your expected outcome much faster.

I do know that poker variance is much different than other forms of AP. I’m not that familiar with variance in poker. With 37 shows, assuming 4 hours per show, he is at roughly 150 hours of play.

So my question for those of you that understand poker variance, is it common for a winning player to be down $136k after 150 hours of play in the softest public game on planet earth? (Yes, I do realize HCL can be considered a public or private game).

He is down about $3,680 per stream or about $900/Hr.

Yes. Because the stacks are so deep in some games, you can lose a few big pots which change everything.

This isn't like playing a shallowish 1/2 NL game where a good player is almost always going to be up after 150 hours of play (provided the rake isn't too high).

[JeffDime]

Andy has still been absent for the show since the chip shuffling incident. It has been months. You would think that with Garrett gone, and he being the only “pro” with a regular invite to the Friday game, he wouldn’t miss this many. He could be in Taiwan or taking a long break, but the timing is super suspicious.

Additionally Hustler is having a huge meet up game on Feb 26 and basically every regular will be there including Mike X. Andy has not been announced. Big High Stakes game with Keating on Feb 13, once again no Andy.

Another thing of note is the highly promoted action clock for the Friday game is never used at all. This was something Garrett insisted on. Was even mentioned during his time at high stakes poker he asked for it. Think shows a bit of Garrett’s overwhelming influence on the game pre J 4.

I guess he is going to wait for his return to figure out what he’s going to do about the Robbi money.

[FRANKRIZZO]

Place is a cesspool. Also wasn't Bart Hansen on there?

[JeffDime]

Place is a cesspool

Gambling world is ugly man. Hustler has just brought a lot to the surface. I’m not absolving them. They fucked up a bunch of times and have had to unscrew the pooch countless times.

Even in the PokerGo studio, they can make it seems as nice as the want. They still have two guys who scammed a million off Dan Colman sitting at the final table.

It’s seem so nice when WPT is giving away 12K packages and PokerStars giveaway away millions of dollars of 30K packages like fucking candy. It’s such a misrepresentation of what really the poker world is like. Hustler at least shows that side. But very few choir boys out there on the felt.

[Dan Druff]

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[JoeD]

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Imagine expecting that you can somehow parlay your infamy into some king of fame and celebrity like a Real Housewives of Beverly Hills deal, but instead ending up with nothing more than this type of video touting your appearance on what is essentially nothing more than a fourth tier Poker stream. Hopefully Parkwest at least comps a room for her for a few nights.

[Small_Banana]

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Imagine expecting that you can somehow parlay your infamy into some king of fame and celebrity like a Real Housewives of Beverly Hills deal, but instead ending up with nothing more than this type of video touting your appearance on what is essentially nothing more than a fourth tier Poker stream. Hopefully Parkwest at least comps a room for her for a few nights.

She is not easy to look at. All that plastic is hurting my eyes.

[Daniel72]

there will be large numbers of views

because there are so many lovers AND haters