It's been mentioned a bunch of times. That's the "Bryan" we are talking about.Originally Posted by sonatine
It's been mentioned a bunch of times. That's the "Bryan" we are talking about.
Big stuff starting to come out.
NV's world crashing down around him.
Here's the indictment against Beanz, regarding the PPP fraud. He's likely fucked, as it appears he's in the sentencing phase, and the feds make you serve most of your time.
Indictment: https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...136329.1.0.pdf
Docket: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket...es-v-attebery/
This doesn't automatically make him involved in any cheating ring, obviously, but it does show a willingness to rip off the gubmint.
I should also mention that Beanz contacted me about appearing on the last PFA show. I did not go to him. In fact, I didn't even realize he was a regular HCL player, as I don't really watch much streaming poker. At the time, I figured he just wanted to come on because he had been on PFA before, follows me on Twitter, sometimes listens to the show, and wanted to give his own take. It surprised me when he revealed that he was the one who recruited Robbi for the HCL games. That was as new to me as it was to the listener.
I guess it is possible that he had an incentive to clear Robbi's name, if he were in cahoots with her in any way.
The plot thickens...
Here we go.....
To clarify the bounty situation, there's a $200k bounty, which expires in a few days, for anyone who can show and demonstrate how cheating was taking place at HCL. This would have to be an insider or perpetrator -- not just people like us who are speculating, guessing, or hearing rumors.
Shaun Deeb, Tom Dwan, Bill Perkins, and Haralabob Voulgaris are the ones putting the money up, with Perkins putting up the largest amount ($100k of the $200k total, I believe).
Very interesting. However, it will likely be revoked if nobody comes forward to claim it within a few days.
I do wonder if Bryan is weighing his options here.
Nick Vertucci starting to crack up a bit.
He's now offering to fund defamation lawsuits against those questioning the DGAF guy -- in this case Allen Kessler.
https://twitter.com/NickVertucciNV/status/1578918809804492800
Haralabob is NOT a fan!
https://twitter.com/haralabob/status/1578953780569071616
Ten days in and there's still zero evidence of cheating. The only significant development in that time is the discovery that two guys took her chips that day when they shouldn't, not one. The poker community would have overwhelming circumstantial evidence by now if Robbi and/or others were cheating on that stream. Like they did in the Postle case. I'm bored of it now and will be tuning-out of the coverage. Good luck attracting wealthy women onto HS poker games after this embarrassing mess.
Long time production coordinator at HCL & LATB prior apparently quit/fired recently. Not sure. Guys speaking in riddles.
https://twitter.com/PatrickWhatUp_/status/1579003279459045377
So anyone else thinking about how if Beanz knows hes heading to prison because he already plead guilty to this charge, then he probably would be more willing to cheat or attempt to cheat, or to do whatever he could to stack some money up before he heads to prison, maybe thinking even if i get caught doesnt matter ill already be in prison, etc, etc...
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"Bryan"has just posted on 2+2
Here is what he posted, I copied and pasted it, link at bottom of post:
"Garrett Adelstein is WRONG about THE POKER CHEATING SCANDAL...
PREFACE
I LOVED Hustler Casino Live, I DID NOT COLLUDE WHATSOEVER WITH Robbi Jade Lew, Rip, or Beanz to cheat you Garrett. WHY THE **** WOULD I CHOOSE WHAT I KNOW WOULD BE ONE OF OUR HIGHEST VIEWED STREAMS TO CHEAT the most talented and beloved cash game player in the world. That's the most asinine **** that I've ever heard of. To whoever is reading this just think about that; Why would I cheat the smartest player in the game in front of the thousands watching concurrently + the MILLIONS who would see it after. Excuse my language but that's just plain out ****ING STUPID!. You should greatly reconsider what you think are facts in this case because you're absolutely wrong about me rigging the game. I had the upmost respect for the integrity of the game and I admired all of the people that came on the show. Including you dude! That's lame that you would even blame me when I looked up to your stupid ass!!!! I wouldn't wanna cheat you, nor anyone ever.
BREAKDOWN OF THE CHEATING FROM MY PERSPECTIVE
If I were to cheat the game why would I pick Jc4h? IT MAKES ZERO SENSE
You said it yourself; without even knowing the card removal you know that
"Jc4h on ThTc9h3c has very little equity vs the overwhelming majority of semi-bluffing hands, let alone all my made hands which have her dead."
LINK - > https://twitter.com/GmanPoker/status...709888/photo/1
I'm not dumb, I play poker, I know that! + I have the card removal percentages LIVE! Why on earth would I pick a spot to signal someone to MAGICALLY HERO with "Jc4h on ThTc9h3c" THATS SUSS AS ****, IT JUST MAKES NO SENSE. YES SHE'S AHEAD TECHNICALLY, BUT SHE'S A DOG WITH ONLY 1 CARD TO COME. It's -EV
The Time I Asked About How To Cheat In Chess On Twitter
Yeah so 9/11 I asked Asian Andy about Hans Nieman and Magnus Carlsen situation. News was circulating that there was Chess Cheating Scandal but I wasn't sure how considering the game is played on a table and my only thoughts were did the guy take the piece when the other guy wasn't looking. So I asked my buddy Asian Andy "How do you cheat in chess? Serious question lol"; it's not that deep bro , sorry to tell ya . I followed Alexandra Botez and a bunch of other chess streamers and I saw the news and was curious so I tweeted . The fact that this so called "relevant information" is part of your hypothesis is starting to making your argument flawed
YOU SAYING
"This potentially incriminating tweet could suggest Bryan wanted to learn how to relay hole card information using the same systems people use cheat in chess." DEBUNKED
LINK -> https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...-live-1813491/
What Doug Polk Said About The Mysterious Filing Cabinet.
"Doug Polk has reported in the below video that a file cabinet had been moved closer to his desk, moving his desk to the side approximately 3-4 weeks ago. Brian's desk is now directly behind an area where all of the hole cards can be seen in real time, with a filing cabinet blocking the vision of a camera facing in that direction."
LINK-> https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...-live-1813491/
THIS NARRATIVE IS COMPLETELY FALSE. I DID NOT MOVE ANYTHING THAT WOULD CHANGE MY PERSPECTIVE. IF I WANTED TO SEE THE REAL TIME HOLE CARDS I COULD HAVE SEEN THEM FROM WHERE I WAS SITTING AT ANYTIME FROM ANYWHERE IN THE ROOM. THERE ARE 10 MONITORS IN THE ROOM AND YOU CAN SEE THE HOLE CARDS IN THE PROGRAM FEED WHICH EVERYONE WORKING IN PRODUCTION CAN SEE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE GRAPHICS COMPUTER IN ORDER TO SEE THE REAL TIME HOLE CARDS. So that fact that you're insinuating that I moved my desk closer to the corner to get closer to where the hole cards are is ABSOLUTELY WRONG. I moved my dest because we don't have sufficient enough space in the Hustler Casino Live control room to move around. WE ARE ELBOW TO ELBOW everytime someone wants to walk through and anyone who's been up there an extensive amount of time can confirm what I'm saying is accurate and correct. It's like a NYC kitchen up there.
What I did was move the table so that the charging equipment was flush against the wall so I can use the bigger desk when I bring my computer to make videos and so we have more space to walk through. Now this is a #FreezingColdTake
Reports of A Yell
"It's also reported that Bryan verbalized a yell of sorts upon seeing Robbi hand the $135K in chips back to Garrett."
LINK-> https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...-live-1813491/
THIS IS A BLATANT LIE. NOBODY SAW ROBBI HAND YOU BACK THE CHIPS YOU'RE LITERALLY MAKING **** UP. OUR CAMERAS CAN'T SEE WHERE THEY WERE SINCE THEY WERE BY THE LOCKERS. I WAS DIRECTING THE SHOW. I CAN ONLY SEE WHAT THE CAMERAS SHOW. When Ryan Feldman went to go check on the situation I was controlling the cameras. EVERYONE IN PRODUCTION CAN VOUCH FOR ME. Mike Peluso knows that and Neve Levy knows that . I did not witness any exchange of any chips between you two. RIP got mad that she gave the chips back and started screaming ruining the ****ing production because it stopped the game when it's one of our hightest viewed streams. I didn't want to have to stop the show, So I GOT MAD AND YELLED AT LUIS (FLOORMAN) Get this ****ing ******* out of here , call security or something because he can't be yelling while we're ****ing filming. and I also yelled "WE HAVE A ****ING SHOW" probably the yell he referred to according to his bullshit investigation.
Did you ever stiff an online game?
-A source messaged me saying “Just an FYI, that guy Bryan Sagbigsal stiffed my online game for a couple thousand. Not much, and he was vouched, so we didn't have to eat it, but the story makes sense for him.
LINK -> https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...-live-1813491/
This is just complete slander campaign. I'VE NEVER STIFFED. Many people know me in poker and I have never stiffed a single person. Whoever said that is a liar
other details
1. I've been texted by Shaun Deeb, Doug Polk, and joeingram in conjuction with (Bill Perkins/Haralobos) in regards to the $215k+ reward if a whistle is blown in regards to the cheating. in an effort to restore the integrity of poker. That's more money than I've ever had in my entire life. I really need that money. The problem is... I didn't cheat. I didn't assist anyone. There is no whistle to be blown because I didn't take part in any cheating ring. At this point I wish I actually did cheat so I could collect that reward but the honest answer from the bottom of my heart is I didnt' help anyone!
2. I'm about 90% sure Robbi didn't cheat. Do I believe her when she says she's innocent? Yes, but there's this small part of me that doesn't know if she's sophisticated enough to hack Hustler Casino Live's graphics server in order to gain access to the real time hole cards. but one thing I can say for certain is I didn't help Robbi or Rip or Beanz or anyone involved in this dumb scandal to cheat. If I did, I would've asked for more than $15k, (like seriously the audacity that little amount is worth it. $15k is nothing) I would've picked a less suspect spot than J4 and I wouldn't have chose Robbi to be my horse if that was the case. There's so many other people that I could've chose why I would pick her. It makes zero sense
Last edited by BryanSagbigsal; Today at 01:26 PM. Reason: info"
LINK:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...&postcount=877
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It would be nice to get a quick explanation of this hand gesture from Lauren (The Dealer). It can very much be an innocent signal to production. But she has an earpiece on, and of course the easiest way to transmit hole card info would be through that. Anyone heard any explanation on this?
I think it could have something to do with the shot clock or collection, who knows. She would also be signaling right in front of Garrett’s face. Would be nice to just put this one to bed if it’s a simple explanation rather than letting it breathe.
https://twitter.com/Kaylynn1011/status/1578220896145534976
Last edited by JeffDime; 10-09-2022 at 12:54 PM.
There’s a lot in this guy Brian’s statement but right off the bat, no one said his cut was 15K. If he was involved, I’m sure his cut would of been larger than that for sure. But palming 3 chips as opposed to 10 is a lot easier to do. So just because he took 15 K means absolutely nothing regarding him being involved in cheating or not.
Bryan's random capitalisation reminds me of a Trump campaign email
JeffDime I appreciate all the work you've done for the game and I've considered you a trustworthy source for spot-on reporting, but you are gradually slipping off the rails in this conversation. There's enough unsubstantiaed sprculation in this thread without you adding to it. You used to be all about the facts.
She most likely lazily pointed her fingers at whoever was next to act. Good dealers do that to speed up the game.
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Well there’s my answer. I wondered how long it would take for somebody to go after lauren the dealer. JFC people are literally grasping at straws to point fingers at. We’re approaching ridiculous here. The problem with vast conspiracies as is well known the more people involved the harder it is for somebody not to crack and expose the whole thing.
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I agree that what Lauren did is most likely innocuous. She’s wearing a mask and can be telling Garrett it’s his action or whatever else. My point is I think it would be helpful to just state what she meant. It’s a unique motion for sure. Would be nice to clear it up. This shit is out there I’m not trying to stir the pot.
Look, I appreciate the kind words and understand the criticism. Truth is this is very difficult. I don’t think I have gone too far in my commentary, at least in the post you quoted. What struck me about his statement was Bryan making the point that 15K would not be a big enough take for him to be involved. I simply stated that palming 10 chips (50 K as an example) would be basically half a stack. So the fact he only palmed 3 is irrelevant to me.JeffDime I appreciate all the work you've done for the game and I've considered you a trustworthy source for spot-on reporting, but you are gradually slipping off the rails in this conversation. There's enough unsubstantiaed sprculation in this thread without you adding to it. You used to be all about the facts.
I assume your speaking of other posts. I mean, that’s what I think. That most likely there was a conspiracy here between the three at least. That is where I am at. I’m not a journalist (Aside from taking 101 in college), I am just a poster, like yourself, on this site. If I was a journalist, I wouldn’t post anything like that. But maybe I shouldn’t anyways. Like I said, it’s tough. I appreciate you not just going hard on me. Although I think “off the rails” is a bit strong. But then again, maybe I’m going batshit.
The last point I’ll make is there has never been anything quite like this since I started posting on this site. Things are so fluid. But perhaps I have been just a bit off & lazy in my posting. Which I do take pride in trying to make what I consider good posts. I’m a real empathetic person. I try to only take digs on people who deserve it. Sometimes I fail in that as well.
For instance, I saw the posts about Lauren and my main concern was getting her name cleared ASAP. That my belief is if it’s an innocent thing, why not put it out right away and squash it. If some theory/clip is being shared on Twitter to thousands, than I think sharing it here makes sense.
Since I started the Christopher Mitchell thread and made a few shitty videos, I have got in touch with a few people. One in particular has tons of connections in the gambling world. So I have presented some information he has fed me on this site from time to time and he’s batting as close to 1,000 as possible. But once again, this situation is so unique and we’re all speculating to some extent.
As for my bias here, I don’t have any. Just like in poker not everyone can win (Unless you get lucky and hit a Bad Beat Jackpot). I wanted Garrett to be wrong & the money returned the next day and that’s about it. But imho it doesn’t look like that’s ever going to happen. I would love for this all to be resolved tomorrow. But it’s not happening.
That being said, I’ll work on it. Thanks and be well.
Last edited by JeffDime; 10-09-2022 at 08:02 PM.
Just to clarify one point with Lauren. The reason I brought it here and said it would be best to squash this thing ASAP, is because she does have that earpiece. The dealers are told in real time if someone’s card aren’t reading. They have a direct line to those looking at hole cards in real time. So I’m not casting aspersions on her, I am simply saying because of those factors, it’s my opinion that an explanation should be given before this thing gets any more oxygen.
BTW if you, or any other poster/lurker is going to be in AC anytime soon slide into the PMs. I am buried this year, but can still afford to buy you a free drink or two.
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