Ask and ye shall receiveOriginally Posted by Sanlmar
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Ask and ye shall receive
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Robbi the noob really doesn’t have to explain her play. She probably really can’t. Neurons are firing randomly in her head. She likely doesn’t have any poker metrics.
We can speculate as Ivey has. His take is infinitely more important than ours though. Gotta listen.
You accuse someone of cheating you better have the goods. Some people catch a beating for doing so. Let the investigators do their job and stfu.
As an aside about life in 2022.
There is no journalism any more. No one pays for journalism and thoughtful reporting. What constitutes “journalism” is clicks. What gets clicks is sensationalism.
Even very smart guys like Berkey, Polk and others have chosen to play that lucrative game. I simply can’t believe Berkey is streaming nonstop for days on end. He’s crushing it financially, I’m sure. He sees an e dge. Voicing an opinion isn’t immoral necessarily, I suppose. I just hate the game. Hate it. Homie don’t play that game.
Makes you appreciate Druff. He looks around and sees these guys making bank running up the hours on the social media meter. Who wouldn’t like that cash? Druff would more than anyone other Jew even. But he doesn’t take the money.
Druff’s take isn’t spastic and sensational for clicks. He cares for his reputation and is sincere. He is diligent in his autistic pursuit of the facts. Tireless . That’s journalism.
Yet I was still entertained by how he solved the riddle. It’s a great story.
Ascetic popped in my head earlier in this thread to describe Druff and why he is uniquely qualified
Druff is a unicorn in poker journalism. There basically isn’t anyone else.a person who dedicates his or her life to a pursuit of contemplative ideals and practices extreme self-denial or self-mortification for religious reasons.
a person who leads an austerely simple life, especially one who abstains from the normally pleasures of life or denies himself or herself material satisfaction.
I know I coulda done without the passive aggressive stuff but I can’t help myself. Can’t appear too gay in my love
Last edited by Sanlmar; 10-05-2022 at 11:07 AM.
https://twitter.com/gmanpoker/status/1577677790379245569
https://twitter.com/moorecrypto1/status/1577680383411224576
If he hired a crisis management PR team, he should fire them immediately.
You put the money in escrow or give it BACK. You don't donate it to charity and post a smug message doubling down on your wrong actions where you took it in the first place.
If I were accused of something major and innocent, I don’t think i would submit to a lie detector test. If it’s 80-90% accurate it’s a negative freeroll. If I pass, it would be a plus, but people would still point to them not always being accurate & the fact they are not admissible in court. If I somehow failed, it would be a disaster.
https://twitter.com/IAmMaverick888/status/1577844434921607168
I posted this on Doug Polks site a couple of days ago. "I am definitely not in the same league as the players at that table, or probably most of the people commenting here. But, if she did cheat I have yet to see anyone say how she did it. As many have said she is probably playing out of her ability level in this game. I think she simply misread either her hand, or the exposed cards, managed to get herself confused and got very lucky at the end. If there turns out to be proof of cheating, then she will suffer the consequences. Having said that if after the investigation, there is no proof of any wrong doing, I hope that those of you who have accused her will have the decency to apologize to her loudly and publicly."
At this time I see no reason to change it. In fact I am becoming more convinced that some people may never be able to show their face again at a poker table.
I think it's insane that this is even a discussion at this point. A player who can barely string two sentences together makes the worst call in poker history on a live stream, can't give a single logical explanation as to why she made the call, her story changes constantly, she's having an affair with someone in the game that knows the floorman, and people really believe that she just wanted to take a stand against Garrett. It's so dumb and also she got staked in the game by Rip who she is having the affair with and people who have that kind of money, don't accumulate that kind of money by making bad investments like staking an obvious fish in a poker game. Unless they were cheating and don't see it as a risk. Live streams have been a hotbed for cheating and I think the concept of a live stream is shady. Having a live broadcast of a poker game doesn't add anything to the show whatsoever. Most of the views that these people get all come after the live stream. Nobody is going to know who won or lost in these games so streaming it live to me feels like the only reason why you would want to do that is so that they can cheat by getting all the player's hole cards and then they have one or two players in the game that are in on it. That's the only thing that makes sense to me when it comes to why they would want to livestream a game of poker in the first place. If they didn't live stream and just released it a couple of days or weeks later, it wouldn't impact the amount of views it would get on Youtube at all.
The only real obvious thing to do is follow the money. Someone made the greatest call of all time with J high and then won the $250K pot. I don't know how but she obviously cheated. She didn't make any J high calls in huge pots and lost so this is so out of charachter that she obviously knew she was going to win the hand. I know people will shout, "what evidence do you have?". There was no evidence in the Postle case and the only evidence that you need and that should matter is that she won a huge pot with J high after making the worst call of all time and raked in the money. Her and Rip in the game are obviously having an affair and he knows the floorman. That's where I think the cheating took place and if I were a detective, that's where I would start looking.
On a side note. Id like to post my sheer annoyance at this hyping crap of WPT Global. A vast majority of the viewers of HCL cant even play on that damn site because well They dont take US Players and wont likely unless and until theres a federal solution which is as bout as likely as it snowing in Phoenix AZ in the middle of summer right now. I know they have a few viewers elsewhere but a large majority are US players and hyping yet another site just like GG that people cant play on (I dont even think Canadians can play on it with the new laws that went into effect that lead to WSOP.CA). Its literally like getting some cheap lap dance in a shit strip club because you can look but cant touch and its stupid. My .02 for what its worth or not.
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Yes, and the reasons these criminal masterminds had Robbi call in that spot is because they knew that calling Adelstein's 129K bet with the unprecedentedly low hand of Jack High in a live streamed game would not garner even a smidgen of scrutiny from the poker playing community. They knew that picking off bluffs with legitimate bluff catcher hands would draw to much scrutiny.
Simply brilliant, eh, Parker?
POKER FAG ALERT! FOR BLOW JOB SEE SLOPPY JOE THE TRANNIE HO.
Here is my quick take...
She knew she had J,4---this to me is without question. After the all-in someone at the table asks her if she has a 3 and she says "no." Even Garrett asks her after the call if she has a pair and she says "you give me that much credit?" She knew she had J,4. The whole can you beat a 3 is what some poker players do after an all-in and the action ends with them....I can't count how many times someone has asked me "can you beat aces?" and they don't have anywhere close to aces. So to me she knew it was J,4.
Now lets put context to the hand. She has been winning in the game overall and in the session---so she isn't on some sort of monkey tilt. After Garrett moves all-in it looks like she almost wants to snap call, but instead takes a second, throws a time chip in, and basically snap calls after that....I think she decides to run it twice because even she can't believe the info she is getting that she is ahead and doesn't want to lose everything on 1 card. Her logic is that running it twice here is safer to her splitting the pot at worse and wants to avoid getting scooped. Which makes sense to a degree....
For those saying she isn't cheating because why choose this spot....Well look at what this coverage has done for her profile. She has over night become one of the biggest names in poker. If cheating can't be proven(which i highly doubt it will to a degree that will satisfy the majority of public) she will make a large sum off all this through various social media platforms and game invites. It might be unconventional to most, but when you think of the larger picture this could actually be genius.
To the people saying this is all about misogyny. It is, but not the way it's being portrayed by most---Woman beating a Man and man not being able to handle it. LOL bullshit theory(imo). The misogyny is saying she is confused, flustered, can't remember this current hand compared to her last hand. This is the crap only men say about women. If a man had made this call he would be getting the same scrutiny as she is but hardly anyone would be saying he was confused, flustered, ect.
I lean towards she cheated but i have no proof outside of circumstantial and would have never asked for money back because of this...
I can agree mostly with what he says, however, the ending confused me.
Isn't Hustler already doing everything they can to make their stream secure? So they are going to now make it so secure that bad calls wont be made? He lost me at the end. He doesn't believe cheating occurred but believes streams need to be more secure.
So is Hustlers stream secure or not?
Also its a little hilarious that he believes there will be some gold standard company that will be so much better than the rest that this will be the only company that can and will ever be used....as if a hacker can't possibly be a step ahead always.
Lastly, I still just have a hard time drinking the kool-aid that she has been playing for years and is in a game for hundreds of thousands of dollars but we are to believe so is this super new super novice player that understands as much about poker as my wife who has never played a hand of poker in her life. Some really need us to believe this in order for her not to be cheating. So hard for me at lest to fathom that she is this level of novice.
Last of the last(haha)....The fact that she can't be cheating because she doesn't make the perfect play always and makes some foolish plays----cant cheaters also balance their ranges? Everyone has seen Mike Postle....do cheaters have to be so dumb and play exactly like him and not learn from him? Also remember Postle was playing in some small 5/10 game and collecting 5-10k a session(if lucky) probably wasn't worth while for him to dump in his mind....this girl has won every session(even though she is suppose to be this super novice player) and has won between 20k to over 200k in each session.
I only lead towards cheating but the circumstantial defense for her makes me laugh sometimes....as if cheaters are so dumb none of them are intelligent enough to mask it...
Last edited by crudebar; 10-06-2022 at 07:24 AM.
I completely agree with what you say above, but
Robbi previously said on video on the night of the incident that she would agree to take a lie detector test. And since she is a well educated, self-made wealthy entrepreneur married to an attorney, I assume she is well versed with the plusses and minuses of such tests when she made the comments.
Or we can just add it to the list of strange, contradictory things she has said regarding this matter from day 1 that people seem to rationalize away.
I have no idea at this point.
Last edited by JoeD; 10-06-2022 at 10:17 AM.
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I just think there is a big disconnect between Charles Lew & Robbi. It could of been going on for a long time or is recent because it is so apparent she was having an affair with RIP. He hasn’t tweeted about this since Sept 30th. He could be giving her advice and she’s dismissing it. But there’s definitely a disconnect.
He very much wanted her to retire but she insisted on playing another year and now their relationship is in jeopardy.
Oh, wait…. Wrong couple
I've got to believe that her husband is advising against the test. A very high percentage of attorneys would advise against it. Her twitter comments are about 50-50 pro or against it but many seem to be troll comments.
I suppose that if you are publicly accused of wrongdoing and you believe that you are 100% innocent, you'd want to do whatever you can to clear your name even if it is risky. And then there are some people who think they can beat it.
Assuming any personal relationship questions will be off limits, here are some questions I would like asked or variations thereof from the professionals:
1. Did she and Rip have any conversations before the stream about ganging up on, beating, or sticking it to Garrett? Or Garrett's style of play in certain situations?
2. Did she and Rip have any conversations after the stream started about ganging up on, beating, or sticking it to Garrett?
3. Did she get any verbal communications from Rip during the J4 hand?
4. Did she get any non-verbal communications from Rip during the J4 hand?
I don't believe there were actually any cheating devices used, but who knows. I'm sure that will all be covered as well.
I wish her luck if this actually happens.
Does anyone know if the deck of cards was immediately taken out of play for independent forensic analysis?
Has anyone commented on whether RFID cards can be read independently of the system that Hustler uses?
Like intercepting someone's WIFI without having to log into their system.
Why are pretty girls being backed, not ugly guys like the rest of us?
Lie detectors are a total scam. I know many people who “passed”, but were lying. The police know it. If they ever ask you to take one, say: “sure, if you can get a signed statement from the DA stating that if I pass, I won’t be prosecuted.” They will not take you up on your offer.
Last edited by Jayjami; 10-06-2022 at 02:58 PM.
Can it be she did not celebrate or was reliefed / surprised when her J4o was the best hand?
I would have shown some emotions: yessss etc. ....
But I still think it was a legit hand and there was no cheating.
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So an employee named Bryan Sagbigsal stole 15k from Robbi's stack?
I'm strongly in the innocent camp but seeing this gives me a little more doubt what kind of operation they are running over there.
Some people are going to now assume this guy was just coming to get his "cut" for helping her I bet
everyday it becomes crazier LOL
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