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    Quote Originally Posted by turdzilla View Post
    Has Robbi appeared with Adam22 yet?

    You know Adam & his wife fuck their guest after appearing on their podcast? I was not aware of any of this until a few weeks ago. I thought he was just a dude with a popular podcast. I hope they made an exception for Mikki’s appearances.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
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    I don't know if anyone shared this.

    DID SHE CHEAT? Robbi Jade Lew Poker Body Language - World Experts Reaction

    I watched a decent amount of this. Their total lack of poker knowledge kind of renders it worthless imo. Case in point, they think the table is shocked at her call only because they’re taking cues from his demeanor after the hand. That’s pure silliness. Anyone beyond an absolute novice would be stunned at her call as she is calling an all in with absolute trash. Almost all his bluffs are good. A small stakes game is stunned.

    They don’t grasp all her nervousness can just as easily be from getting a signal to call and knowing how it will look. The whole she’d be elated if she was cheating is idiotic. No, if you were getting a signal to call, you wouldn’t be elated. You’d know how it looks. You’d take time because you’d want to make sure you’re getting the correct signal as it would be idiotic to anyone to call there. Even if you’re good on the hand, it’s not worth it if you have the ability to cheat that game.

    I’ve felt from the beginning there is only two options. She cheated being the obvious one. Or she has the skill level of someone you just taught poker to ten minutes ago, and while no one thinks she’s good, it’s almost impossible to be that bad given she has some experience. Her comment about thinking he had an ace when she just called all in with a J high would require her being the absolute worst player you’ve ever met in any live 1/2 game.

    I have no idea how they cheated, but cheater or absolute retard are the only two options. I think he was cheated.
    I thought that the lack of poker knowledge was the whole point.

    A lie detector doesn't know if you are being tested for lying, cheating, or stealing cars, hearts, or cattle.

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    Here we go again...

    https://twitter.com/#!/x/status/1591834174985576451



    Also, there is a new Twitter account dedicated to attempting to expose widespread cheating on Hustler Casino Live: https://twitter.com/hclpokerscandal

    It's not clear who runs it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Also, there is a new Twitter account dedicated to attempting to expose widespread cheating on Hustler Casino Live: https://twitter.com/hclpokerscandal

    It's not clear who runs it.

    It seems when Charlie Carrel went on Joey’s podcast and put out that Nick Vertucci was being looked at is when a lot of these people started to make a lot less noise. I believe this was Joey’s last podcast on the whole matter. I think it’s not hard to connect the dots when you look at the timeframe of when the chatter become muffled & this very public accusation against Nick.

    I have a few thoughts

    1) Denials mean nothing. It’s like the baseball players going before Congress and emphatically saying they never used steroids. It’s not illegal to lie to the public. If there was something nefarious here you would expect strong denials. Nick & Ryan would be ruined if there actually was something going on. So I can’t give any weight to denials.

    2) Nick plays mainly in this stupid 5/5 $100 BB ante Game. It plays like a 40/80 or higher. So when absurd win rates using BBs/Hour are cited, they mean absolutely nothing. Nick is buying in for 35K, so to use $5 as the measure of a big blind is disingenuous. Any kind of win rate needs to be adjusted using a reasonable figure for the BB. Something around $80 I guess.

    3) Nick is in a spot where his EV simply can’t be calculated. He is in this ante game where the ridiculously small blinds give him no incentive to play hands. He can fold all 6 hours and lose a negligible amount. He sits in this game and consistently has a low VPIP & for whatever reason players don’t avoid him like the plague. They seem to bluff into him and call off to him way too much.

    4) Nick gets the seat and has no pressure on him whatsoever to play hands. Most of the other players feel that pressure to play. HCL has even embraced him as “Nitucci”. Is it ethical? No, not at all. I don’t believe he should sit in a game like that and exploit the fact he can nut peddle because he owns the product. But of course he is allowed to do so. I know Ryan tries to avoid playing.

    Regardless if this is all on the up and up or not, it’s a bad look for an owner of the stream to exploit these games and take almost a million out of the player pool. If he was splashing around like DGAF that seems to be more appropriate. But Nick is clearly not the quality of player who could make that work.

    *This is where I currently fall. That Nick is up this money legitimately, but it’s a bad bad look.

    5) Changes in the player Luda Chris can be explained. He was a young guy and it’s not out of the question for him to completely change his playing style. Maybe he came in to a bunch of money or maybe a different backer wanted him to play completely differently. I believe that he made drastic changes to his playing style, but that can be explained. If he was a grinder in his late 30s plus and made such a drastic change, that would be more difficult to believe it was organic.

    I am a little surprised that Nick hasn’t come out more forcefully with denial after denial. “I would never fucking cheat and have never cheated”. It may be that he knows it doesn’t matter. Once someone puts your name out there you are kind of fucked. But I am a bit surprised we haven’t seen some stronger statements that he would never and has never cheated. But again, he probably realizes it doesn’t matter.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Also, there is a new Twitter account dedicated to attempting to expose widespread cheating on Hustler Casino Live: https://twitter.com/hclpokerscandal

    It's not clear who runs it.
    I wonder if Garrett Adelstein hired these guys to conduct their own investigation. They replied to a tweet saying that Garrett was involved in the group but not anymore.

    Garrett mentioned in the LA Times article that he was given back money after being cheated in a private game. I think Robbi offering to give back the money made him convinced she cheated because of his prior experience. He must be on monster tilt seeing all those juicy games on HCL. The person who benefits the most from this is Andy. He gets to take his spot in the big games.

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    Did you take a screenshot? Looks like she nuked her account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    There has to be some kind of major horse trading being done behind these scenes, legal or otherwise. People burn out of talking about topics and with the crypto stuff, election, etc it is understandable that people like Polk, Ingram, parties involved, etc would lose some interest in the story.

    But this has been almost a hard stop like we were talking about something trivial like Dan Colman being scammed for over a million. Not going to speculate on where this pseudo gag order has come from, but something is up for sure. Alot of these people love to fucking talk and all of a sudden have STFU.

    There were plenty more views ($$$$) to be milked here. Just can’t be a coincidence all these people stopped chirping around the same time.
    the purpose was to get attention, they succeeded.

    https://saint-raphael.ch/prix-kiwani...ntreprise-2017

    There is a game being played on another level.

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    There has to be some kind of major horse trading being done behind these scenes, legal or otherwise. People burn out of talking about topics and with the crypto stuff, election, etc it is understandable that people like Polk, Ingram, parties involved, etc would lose some interest in the story.

    But this has been almost a hard stop like we were talking about something trivial like Dan Colman being scammed for over a million. Not going to speculate on where this pseudo gag order has come from, but something is up for sure. Alot of these people love to fucking talk and all of a sudden have STFU.

    There were plenty more views ($$$$) to be milked here. Just can’t be a coincidence all these people stopped chirping around the same time.
    the purpose was to get attention, they succeeded.

    https://saint-raphael.ch/prix-kiwani...ntreprise-2017

    There is a game being played on another level.
    French church is behind all this? Man this has some fucking layers to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 9 angles View Post

    the purpose was to get attention, they succeeded.

    https://saint-raphael.ch/prix-kiwani...ntreprise-2017

    There is a game being played on another level.
    French church is behind all this? Man this has some fucking layers to it.
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