Hustler Casino Live - cheating by Robbi Jade Lew against Garrett Adelstein?

[BetCheckBet]

It's amazing that people seem to be ignoring the fact here that one of the owners of HCL is a known scam artist. Nick Vertucci probably has a worse reputation than any of the guys Garrett mentioned tryign to ruin their rep. Also for some reason Garrett is extremely defensive around Nick and won't even entertain the possibility of him being in on this. That begs the question how a guy like Garrett is so well connected with Nick? Also Garett and Nick (yes he was allowed to play in his own game) are the biggest winners. Just the fact Nick was allowed to play regularly shows how shady these guys are. I've yet to see any real evidence Robbi was cheating. But if we are going to go into people's pasts we should start with Nick.

[BetCheckBet]

This thread is from 6 months ago and people talking how horrible it is to have Nick in the game. And yes the guy they are talking about is the guy who is great friends with Garrett and can do no wrong. Garrett isn't as squeaky clean as he seems.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...tucci-1804382/

start reading posts 63 onward and both Garett and Nick start posting there defending accusations.

FTR I don't think Garrett is doing anything shady... He runs with shady people but that is poker for you.

[JeffDime]

From Beanz, we really need clarity on this 20K loan from Robbi. Gamblers need loans, hell I have had the worst run of my life this year and could certainly use 20K. But if he was trying to get her in the game and the story is she was initially reluctant, what’s her incentive to loan a guy she hardly knows 20K? Would make more sense that she would loan him 20K because she really wanted on the stream. There must be more here.

[mickeycrimm]

The following is an excerpt from The Godfather of Poker, the autobiography of Doyle Brunson:

"One rainy night, after a three day poker marathon poker game, it was in Brenham, Texas, that I got into a hand with two opponents, one of them being Johnny Moss. Moss and me, we had an eye on each other. He was the best at the time and I think he saw in me the guy that would take his place, so he tried real hard when we were in pots together. One thing Moss had, which was a big advantage against me, was the money. He had plenty of it and I didn't, so he could money whip me. Well this hand came up and I always remembered it because it was a turning point in my career.

I was holding Jack-Ten offsuit on a board of K-7-8-2-3. I had none of that board but when Moss bet $4000, a monstrous wager in that game I called him with just a Jack High! I was sure he was drawing to some kind of straight and since I was drawing to the highest one possible, I felt I had to have him beat. It forced out a third player with a better hand who I correctly figured wouldn't overcall me. There was a lot of money in the pot but I had a read on Johnny. Any hand with a Queen, King, Ace or Pair or better would beat me, in other words, just about any two cards. And I needed to beat two players. Moss showed me his 6-5, for a busted straight draw, just like I thought and I showed him the Jack-Ten.

It was more than a call-it was a bold and brilliant move, the breakthrough that I needed. Moss looked at me, and I could see the respect in his eyes. That one hand defined the moment when I knew I was a top player, and from that point on, I was considered a world-class player by my peers."

[SlowRoll]

It's amazing that people seem to be ignoring the fact here that one of the owners of HCL is a known scam artist. Nick Vertucci probably has a worse reputation than any of the guys Garrett mentioned tryign to ruin their rep. Also for some reason Garrett is extremely defensive around Nick and won't even entertain the possibility of him being in on this. That begs the question how a guy like Garrett is so well connected with Nick? Also Garett and Nick (yes he was allowed to play in his own game) are the biggest winners. Just the fact Nick was allowed to play regularly shows how shady these guys are. I've yet to see any real evidence Robbi was cheating. But if we are going to go into people's pasts we should start with Nick.

In the past, Nick liked to make legal threats when people called out his (alleged) real estate scams.

He thinks he can control every situation by presenting himself as a 'seeker of truth'. It is clear his intentions are always to divert attention away from his dishonesty. (allegedly)
Things are slowly crashing for him behind the scenes.
People are asking the right questions, but no one with a lot of reach is willing to go on record..... yet.

The information coming out about Hustler Casino Live's "top of the line security", touted repeatedly by Nick himself, is very telling of the disparity between Nick Vertucci's words and his actions.

Reading through the complaints against his past business provides more evidence of his character, or lack thereof.

The most likely outcome for Nick seems that he will be found to be guilty of, at minimum, a large scale coverup of cheating that was taking place on the HCL streams. (not legally, of course, but overwhelmingly - postle level)
He will disappear from poker and find another industry full of people in a "get rich quick" mindset, grift his way into that communities good graces, and start his next scam.

I expect to see information come out about his predatory relationships with those around him at HCL (players and staff).
His history in law enforcement sure would be interesting to look into.

That being said, someone equally predatory will take his place in the poker world.

[JeffDime]

BTW im fairly certain there was a conspiracy at least between Brian, Robbi & RIP. Nik Airball was probably targeted for funding, hence the wine & dine 7 hour dinner with just himself, Robbie & RIP. Think he was probably being freerolled and not in on it. Beanz was her conduit into the game for sure. Whether he had any idea about what was going to happen I don’t know. The 20 K loan from someone he hardly knew needs to be explained.

Garrett’s actions feel warranted to me now. He didn’t grab those chips out of her hand and he knew that was probably his only chance to recover the funds. I hope I don’t have to change my position again. I don’t plan on doing so. I was wrong.

[JoeD]

BTW im fairly certain there was a conspiracy at least between Brian, Robbi & RIP. Nik Airball was probably targeted for funding, hence the wine & dine 7 hour dinner with just himself, Robbie & RIP. Think he was probably being freerolled and not in on it. Beanz was her conduit into the game for sure. Whether he had any idea about what was going to happen I don’t know. The 20 K loan from someone he hardly knew needs to be explained.

Garrett’s actions feel warranted to me now. He didn’t grab those chips out of her hand and he knew that was probably his only chance to recover the funds. I hope I don’t have to change my position again. I don’t plan on doing so. I was wrong.

RIP also gave Airball ringside seats to a Logan Paul fight and dazzled him with the watch after meeting him just once on the 9/21 stream. Could be totally harmless but also could very well be a part of the buttering up the mark scheme.

Also, friend of PFA Beanz reminds me a lot of Huggy Bear from the old Starsky and Hutch show. Definitely lovable, but I'm just not sure about his level of shadiness.

[shortbuspoker]

odds that robbi gave nicairball head to seal the deal on the loan? +$250

[Dan Druff]

BTW im fairly certain there was a conspiracy at least between Brian, Robbi & RIP. Nik Airball was probably targeted for funding, hence the wine & dine 7 hour dinner with just himself, Robbie & RIP. Think he was probably being freerolled and not in on it. Beanz was her conduit into the game for sure. Whether he had any idea about what was going to happen I don’t know. The 20 K loan from someone he hardly knew needs to be explained.

Garrett’s actions feel warranted to me now. He didn’t grab those chips out of her hand and he knew that was probably his only chance to recover the funds. I hope I don’t have to change my position again. I don’t plan on doing so. I was wrong.

RIP also gave Airball ringside seats to a Logan Paul fight and dazzled him with the watch after meeting him just once on the 9/21 stream. Could be totally harmless but also could very well be a part of the buttering up the mark scheme.

Also, friend of PFA Beanz reminds me a lot of Huggy Bear from the old Starsky and Hutch show. Definitely lovable, but I'm just not sure about his level of shadiness.

LOL Huggy Bear

That was a big thing in the '70s and '80s detective/police shows. There was always a lovable/harmless but shady guy who was some kind of informant for them, but was also a source of constant hassle.

For those wondering, the prevailing suspicion was that Bryan was the inside guy getting holecard info, Beanz was the recruiter who would get shady people into the game to commit the cheating, and Nik Airball was either knowingly or unknowingly loaning the cheaters money to be able to play. Then the two recruited cheaters were said to be Rip and Robbi.

It's an interesting theory, but there some holes in it:

- Why wouldn't Beanz just do the cheating himself, rather than recruiting people? He is known to have a wild playstyle and could get away with making unorthodox plays without that much suspicion.

- Why would they have picked such a poor spot to do it (the J4 hand), when Robbi had 3 streams (and presumably more after that) to find a better spot? Notice that nobody can find any other hand where Robbi played like she had info.

- Why are Robbi and Rip so willing to keep coming on Joey's show and talking? The average cheater would shit his pants if under such suspicion and spotlight, but these two seem to enjoy all the attention, as if they're not worried about anything.

- There is no evidence that any cheating occurred. The sole piece of evidence is that Bryan stole money off Robbi's stack, which makes it also likely he would happily engage in a holecard cheating scheme, given his access to them. But who were his partners?


I will say that if Bryan really has shot off $200k in the past months, then it's likely he was either serially stealing from stacks, or had recently gotten payouts from cheating.



There is one other possibility which many are overlooking. What if there were TWO cheating scandals, occurring independently? We already had this once. Absolute Poker and Ultimatebet were the same company in 2008 when the UB stuff came out, so people assumed that the AP cheating was the same people. It wasn't. The AP cheating took place in 2007, by Scott Tom and friends. Totally separately, the UB cheating took place from 2003-2008 (much bigger scandal), but Russ Hamilton and friends. Even though the two companies merged in 2008, both scandals occurred independently when they were separate companies.

Similarly, it is possible that there was already cheating going on at Hustler Casino Live, perhaps done intelligently and orchestrated by intelligent people. Then we might have had a second, sloppy instance of cheating done by Bryan on his own, perhaps because he had mounting debts and gambling losses, and his might have been done in a sloppy/stupid fashion.

The bottom line is that everything needs to be examined here, and nobody should be beyond suspicion.

[Daniel72]

this RIP (Jacob) guy was quite convincing in the interview

he wasn't even scheduled to play in the game, he was hungover, but then Ryan F convinced him to take part - it was spontaneous

the "big plan" of Robbi / RIP cheat together is an illusion

[JeffDime]

this RIP (Jacob) guy was quite convincing in the interview

he wasn't even scheduled to play in the game, he was hungover, but then Ryan F convinced him to take part - it was spontaneous

the "big plan" of Robbi / RIP cheat together is an illusion

These guys are good talkers. As opposed to Robbi. Beanz came off very well in his interview with Druff on PFA radio last week. Nik Airball is a great talker and RIP can talk as well. Many Scammers/Conman can come off very articulate/genuine. It’s a great skill to have. That doesn’t mean one or all of them are scammers/cheaters but I don’t give much, if any, weight to the fact they can talk. My read was Nik came off pretty genuine and the other two somewhat deceptive. But that’s a very small factor for me at this point.

[PositiveVariance]

Beanz has pleaded guilty to PPP loan fraud. Over $300k. Waiting to be sentenced It's a federal case, so your really at the judges mercy. It's not like a state case where you generally know what your sentence will be.

Surprised Garrett didn't add this to his novel on 2+2

https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comme...ud_conviction/

[aayjay]

Beanz has pleaded guilty to PPP loan fraud. Over $300k. Waiting to be sentenced It's a federal case, so your really at the judges mercy. It's not like a state case where you generally know what your sentence will be.

Surprised Garrett didn't add this to his novel on 2+2

https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comme...ud_conviction/

beanz is a shitty dude, good find on the current case, so is he going to prison or what are people getting for ppp loan fraud? the feds have like a 99% conviction rate and they almost never plea, so he gonna get in trouble i think. he also has a criminal history saw some one post that somewhere.

[PositiveVariance]

Beanz has pleaded guilty to PPP loan fraud. Over $300k. Waiting to be sentenced It's a federal case, so your really at the judges mercy. It's not like a state case where you generally know what your sentence will be.

Surprised Garrett didn't add this to his novel on 2+2

https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comme...ud_conviction/

beanz is a shitty dude, good find on the current case, so is he going to prison or what are people getting ppp loan fraud? the feds have like a 99% conviction rate and they almost never plea, so he gonna get in trouble i think. he also has a criminal history saw some one post that somewhere.

The federal system is based off a point system called "guidelines". The points are based on the crime itself, also factors such as prior criminal history play a huge role in federal cases. The judge has a range within the guidelines based on the point count. They usually stay in this range when issuing sentences, However, they can go below these numbers unless statutory minimums are involved. Without any priors he's likely somewhere between 12 and 36 months in prison, as well as paying back any money he got his filthy hands on.

Federal sentencing is much different than state sentencing.

I will research his judge later. There have been enough PPP fraud cases that Judges have already sentenced a good amount In each district. All you have to do is research sentences that were handed down by your specific Judge in cases with a similar dollar amounts of fraud and you will likely get a good estimate of how much time you will get.

I follow a "Federal Prison consultant" on YouTube. 75% of his clients are for PPP loan fraud.
In most PPP fraud cases under 100k, if the defendant has no criminal history, most judges are giving probation. I have a feeling Mr Beanz has some priors and won't be getting probation with 330k of intended loss. Also, he applied in the name of an Animal non profit charity, I'm sure this won't get any sympathy with his Judge.

Also, I’m not saying he was involved in a cheating scheme. He seems like a Conman/Hustler. It may have been a “I can get you on Hustler Live Stream for a $5,000 payment” type of deal. Likely a guy that is always looking for a quick come up.

[aayjay]

beanz is a shitty dude, good find on the current case, so is he going to prison or what are people getting ppp loan fraud? the feds have like a 99% conviction rate and they almost never plea, so he gonna get in trouble i think. he also has a criminal history saw some one post that somewhere.

The federal system is based off a point system called "guidelines". The points are based on the crime itself, also factors such as prior criminal history play a huge role in federal cases. The judge has a range within the guidelines based on the point count. They usually stay in this range when issuing sentences, However, they can go below these numbers unless statutory minimums are involved. Without any priors he's likely somewhere between 12 and 36 months in prison, as well as paying back any money he got his filthy hands on.

Federal sentencing is much different than state sentencing.

I will research his judge later. There have been enough PPP fraud cases that Judges have already sentenced a good amount In each district. All you have to do is research sentences that were handed down by your specific Judge in cases with a similar dollar amounts of fraud and you will likely get a good estimate of how much time you will get.

I follow a "Federal Prison consultant" on YouTube. 75% of his clients are for PPP loan fraud.
In most PPP fraud cases under 100k, if the defendant has no criminal history, most judges are giving probation. I have a feeling Mr Beanz has some priors and won't be getting probation. Also, he applied in the name of an Animal non profit charity, I'm sure this won't get any sympathy with his Judge.

tldr...

lol ... so wow, i guess then serious chance that dude maybe sees 2-3 years in prison, that SUCKS

[sonatine]

so wait has no one mentioned that one of the employees at hustler skimmed 3 $5000 chips off robbi's stack?

[aayjay]

What do you all think about the bountys expiration date? Supposedly its gonna expire, i think on Monday. So if the bounty expires without anyone collecting it are you using that as data in your decision of what happened that night? Does the bounty actually mean anything?

[turdzilla]

Since she was backed with no make-up, it would have been easier to lose (donk off) her stack to her partner and divvy up her lost stack.

Costs her nothing, no questions, because she is the fish.

Therefore, it appears G was in on it.

Could probably be done a few times before the backer stops with the $.

[FRANKRIZZO]

Only way cheating could have occurred in this circumstance imo was if the card shuffler was compromised and Robbi had buzzer or some type of device to alert her that she would win. I'm still going with blind squirrel scenario.

[ftpjesus]

In before somebody blames Lauren the favorite dealer of many players on stream and in chat.