A controversy came up on Twitter, when poker coach Nick Howard tweeted this:
https://twitter.com/twt/status/1555037298827427841
I'm not a big fan of Howard's, as he seems more like a wannabe deep-thoughted pseudointellectual at times. The above comparison of pronouns to poker is kinda stupid. But he's right regarding his main point -- that the whole pronouns thing has gotten out of control.
The way I see it, there are three levels of "respecting pronouns".
Level 1: Someone has transitioned to the other gender, and is clearly living every day as that gender. Famous examples of this are Ellen/Elliot Page and Bruce/Caitlin Jenner.
Level 2: Someone has declared themselves "trans", but hasn't really done all that much to change their appearance, and may not even be living as one gender consistently. These people will pick pronouns like "they/them" to reflect it.
Level 3: Someone has declared themselves some alternate form of trans, and wants you to use some crazy pronouns. These people will use pronouns like "faer/faerself" or "bun/bunself", and expect you to use them.
I will respect Level 1 above. If someone has gender dysphoria to the point where they felt that a full change to the other gender is the only way they can feel some degree of peace, I'm willing to respect that and call them by their new name and pronoun. For example, there was a guy I knew from the '90s who transitioned to a woman about 10-15 years ago, long before the whole trans thing became all the rage. I refer to this person as "she" and their new female name, and don't have a problem with doing that.
However, it's also obvious and doesn't need any listing of pronouns. If a dude becomes a chick, you can easily see that, and refer to that person as "she". If a chick becomes a dude, it's the reverse. No need to list or state pronouns.
I think the rest of the pronoun garbage ranges between mental illness, a cry for attention, virtue signaling, or a combination of both. Arguably the most irritating are the normie liberals who aren't trans at all, but still need to list their pronouns in their bio just to appear woke. When I see a chick born female, who lives as female, listed as "she/her" on Twitter, it's just so off-putting. Same with dudes who do the same.
The responses to Nick Howard's tweet are pretty much a woketastrophe. Everyone is accusing him of being "transphobic" and virtue signaling their heads off. Here's a good example:
https://twitter.com/KRabichow/status/1555258307308298240
Dumb.
In any case, how far will you go to "respect" pronouns? If a former dude who lives as a chick wants to be called "she", will you do it? What about a chick who was born female presents female, but wants to be called "they"? What about a person who asks that you refer to them as "faer" or "bun"?
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Originally Posted by sonatine
