Is these figures true and accurate? If so Obama has really done a great job!!!
Is these figures true and accurate? If so Obama has really done a great job!!!
Not defending Obama, but a fire isn't put out just because the fire truck pulls up to the burning house. The economy was free-falling for a few months before he got in and a few months after. looking at the exact date of his inauguration isn't telling the entire storyOriginally Posted by TUFFTURF
Is these figures true and accurate? If so Obama has really done a great job!!!
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Not defending Obama, but a fire isn't put out just because the fire truck pulls up to the burning house. The economy was free-falling for a few months before he got in and a few months after. looking at the exact date of his inauguration isn't telling the entire story
Is these figures true and accurate? If so Obama has really done a great job!!!
Druff back me up on this braj, didn't Clinton leave us in recession?
liberal defense: we had a surplus
Clinton was the equivalent of the poker player who sits down, flops a set every other hand, never gets sucked out on, walks away a big winner, and thinks it was all due to his skill.
He lucked into both an already-recovering economy when he took office in 1993 and a subsequent boom that was largely fueled by factors that had nothing to do with him (such as the dotcom boom).
George W. Bush got the opposite. He entered just as the dotcom collapse was occurring, and then had to deal with the economic and complicated political fallout of 9/11. It's true that 9/11 helped him get reelected in '04, but he had a much tougher job to do than Clinton. Bush did a good job for the most part in his first term, and a crappy job in his second term, which is what he's unfortunately remembered for.
Obama did come into a lousy situation at the beginning of 2009, but he has failed to do anything to break us out of it. While nobody was expecting an instant fix, it's now almost 4 years later, and very little has changed or improved.
His health care plan was the most innovative thing to come out of his Presidency, but even that's flawed and is going to have all kinds of problems when it kicks in during 2014. I'm also really tired of his obsession with class warfare. All he can do in his speeches talk about raising taxes on the rich. One of the biggest lies perpetrated by modern left-wing politics has to do with the taxes paid by the rich. They actually pay the majority of the income tax collected in this country, despite being a tiny percentage of the population, but you'd never know that listening to Obama.
If the Republicans put up a better candidate than Romney, they probably would be leading right now. Instead, they're likely going to lose in November. Maybe they'll find a future star in someone like Marco Rubio. They really need another Reagan right about now.
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edit: druff you voting for christie 2016?
Probably didn't tank because rich people knew obama was coming in, come on now bare!
The Dow is one of the few things that has recovered under Obama.
The housing market is still a mess (especially in highly affected areas like Nevada and Florida), and unemployment is still at high levels.
Few people will tell you that their situation has vastly improved from 4 years ago. Things haven't gotten worse, but they really haven't gotten much better.
That's not the "change" people were hoping for in 2008.
I don't think Christie has a future as President because he's fat.
Not kidding. It shouldn't matter, but somehow to voters it does.
He also hasn't really impressed with his speaking ability as of late.
He might have a future as VP.
I really think Marco Rubio will be the 2016 candidate (unless Romney wins), but it's possible that some dark horse will come out of nowhere and take the nomination.
Remember, nobody outside of Arkansas knew who Bill Clinton was in 1990.
I heard obama changed his campaign from yes we can to we might be able to, badumtshhh
I don't think tripling the national debt will solve anything.
If Reagan was reincarnated right now, he would be way too "moderate" to win the GOP nomination.
Last edited by DirtyB; 09-13-2012 at 09:57 PM.
I keep hearing that, but I think it's more of a left-wing talking point to mock the current state of the Republican Party.I don't think tripling the national debt will solve anything.
If Reagan was reincarnated right now, he would by way too "moderate" to win the GOP nomination.
In general, Reagan was a conservative President. He was not as conservative as some of today's ultra-right-wingers and Tea Party types, but I still think he would win the nomination based upon his charisma and likability as a candidate.
To show you the quality of the Republican field since Reagan left office, the most likable candidate since 1988 has been George W. Bush. McCain came off as a cranky old man, and Romney comes off as an out-of-touch rich guy.
Democrats have had that problem too, recently. Al Gore came off as stiff and condescending, while John Kerry was seen as an arrogant New Englander. Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are both very likable, which is why they have been successful candidates.
It still doesn't change the fact that Obama hasn't brought the "change" he promised, and much of the excitement about him has died down. While he will probably win, it will be because the Republicans again beat themselves.
I don't really follow the political talking heads/not sure if this has been brought up but Mitt Romney seems to me to be the Republican John Kerry
in my eyes this is an accurate assumption
Apparently Clinton was VERY likeable, which is what got him in all that trouble.
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I'm not a Clinton guy but it's laughable to think that he was the only one who did something like that, get serious with your LIFE. WORD. AINT NEVER TOLD LIE. REAL NIGGAS SAY TRUE.Apparently Clinton was VERY likeable, which is what got him in all that trouble.
Like I said, not a Clinton guy but if you think he was the only dude who received a BJ outside of his wife while in office you are fucking SORELY mistaken brajjers.
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I'm not an american but my recollection is Clinton got sucked out on plenty of times.
O and Kony 2012, bitches!
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Where the fuck was gas $1.85 when Obama was elected? It was around $5 a gallon the summer before if I remember correctly.
Edit: I'll be damned, that is correct.
Last edited by vegas1369; 09-14-2012 at 07:33 PM.
This. Why didn't Rubio go for it (or did he?) against the 2012 pu pu platter of shit? Herman Cain was the only candidate who seemed to get some traction before the harassment stuff came out.I don't think Christie has a future as President because he's fat.
Not kidding. It shouldn't matter, but somehow to voters it does.
He also hasn't really impressed with his speaking ability as of late.
He might have a future as VP.
I really think Marco Rubio will be the 2016 candidate (unless Romney wins), but it's possible that some dark horse will come out of nowhere and take the nomination.
Remember, nobody outside of Arkansas knew who Bill Clinton was in 1990.
To end up with a guy that couldn't even beat John McCain for the nomination is pathetic and shows what a dire state the GOP is in.
I hope the GOP loses in November and subsequently whips itself into shape. The lack of galvanizing leadership is kind of pathetic.
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