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    Fresh off cheating allegations, Bryn Kenney is an investor & ambassador for a new online poker site called "4 Poker"

    4 Poker is a new poker site, not open to US players, looking to compete with sites like GGPoker and Pokerstars. Bryn Kenney is both an investor and prominent site pro.

    The CEO is named Heath Cram, who is an ex-Pokerstars employee. A journalist named Simon Young did an interview with Cram on August 1, regarding the new site: https://www.poker.org/4poker-launch-heath-cram/

    Cram claims in the interview that 4 Poker will be centered around player satisfaction, a model taken by Pokerstars under the Scheinberg days.

    In the poker.org article, Cram answered the questions regarding the suitability of Kenney as an ambassador, given his presently bad reputation:

    Quote Originally Posted by Heath Cram
    By chance, this was actually brought to my attention by a former Stars colleague when I was holidaying in Australia, and I had spoken to Bryn by this stage, unbeknown to them.

    I was shocked but also open-minded at this point – taking it for what it was – which was a social media outburst by a character of pretty questionable credibility to my eye.

    I’m not na´ve to the industries I’ve worked in and players that play in horse racing, sports betting or poker. The truth is, as always, I’ll make my own judgement of people, and in the past few weeks, I have had the pleasure of not only spending time with Bryn and other investors in person but meeting his family and loved ones.

    I frankly haven’t spent time with someone with as much passion for poker and people since working for PokerStars’ founding owners.
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    Bryn doesn’t need my opinion of this, nor should anyone else in social, media, or worse yet, business circles be playing judge, jury and executioner with such an allegation.

    With me having a long background in Customer Operations, even without knowing the team or people there, I would firmly put the trust back in the hands of the likes of GGPoker, should Bryn or anyone else be implicated, it should be from an investigation by them, in reaction to this as a complaint.

    Bryn has opted to treat this for what it is, a quite desperate outburst from a former disgruntled associate. He says he’s staked 100s of players over the years and lost with many of them but is losing more than money with this one, I think, unfairly.

    Most important to me in my business relationship with Bryn is that he is voting with his feet. Since my very first discussion with him, he has been speaking about launching a site that takes integrity and responsibility to the next level. The public can be the judge of that soon enough.

    Ugh.

    While I agree that accuser Martin Zamani isn't exactly a great guy, most of the allegations seemed fairly credible, and Kenney didn't even directly answer to most of them. It should be quite clear to anyone following the story that something very shady was going on with Bryn and his stakehorses.

    So why would this Heath Cram guy make Bryn a site ambassador?

    This April 2022 tweet from Lauren Roberts (former friend of Bryn's, who claims to be a victim of his) says it all:

    https://twitter.com/#!/x/status/1517916981273407488



    Looks to me that Mr. Cram was probably big on ideas and low on funding, and Bryn had the big checkbook which could help bring this dream to reality. I doubt that Cram thought, "You know who would be a great guy to bring aboard my new poker site project, intending to compete with the big boys? One of the most hated players in 2022 poker, Bryn Kenney!"

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    So this is why Doug Polk went out of his way to smash Bryn's reputation. I couldn't understand why everyone was making such a big deal out of it. The guy is getting staked which means he is being given money. If Bryn wants him to go talk to a shamen then he needs to go talk to a shaman and not be a whiny bitch about it. There is a clear alternative to this, have your own money! Get a fucking job and then you don't have to try and ruin someone's reputation because you failed at life.

    Doug Polk is an obvious shill for these sites and so they all knew that Bryn was going to be launching a site and this all but prevents it from getting any momentum or taking away from any business. I thought it was really strange that Doug Polk gave that scumbag a platform. Doug Polk calling out someone like Bryn for being shady because he staked someone and had them go see a shaman. I bet Bryn paid for the shaman too so who gives a fuck? How about being Doug Polk and have a training website knowing that the sites are all rigged. He's the biggest scum of them all because he parades around like someone "you can trust". We all know how CoinFlex turned out and then of course Doug plays the idiot and acts like he had no idea and
    he is as surprised as anyone that everyone lost their money. Doug Polk is such a phony, just like everyone else in poker who claim to be someone who "helps the player" but then defends the site up and down no matter what. Just like you Druff! Fake, it's all fake and you are all probably getting checks from these sites to give the false sense of safety knowing full well that these sites are rigged AF. You, Doug Polk, and Joey Ingram are the worst kind of people. Wolves in sheep's clothing. I hope there is a special place in hell for people you scammers.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poker888 View Post
    So this is why Doug Polk went out of his way to smash Bryn's reputation. I couldn't understand why everyone was making such a big deal out of it. The guy is getting staked which means he is being given money. If Bryn wants him to go talk to a shamen then he needs to go talk to a shaman and not be a whiny bitch about it. There is a clear alternative to this, have your own money! Get a fucking job and then you don't have to try and ruin someone's reputation because you failed at life.

    Doug Polk is an obvious shill for these sites and so they all knew that Bryn was going to be launching a site and this all but prevents it from getting any momentum or taking away from any business. I thought it was really strange that Doug Polk gave that scumbag a platform. Doug Polk calling out someone like Bryn for being shady because he staked someone and had them go see a shaman. I bet Bryn paid for the shaman too so who gives a fuck? How about being Doug Polk and have a training website knowing that the sites are all rigged. He's the biggest scum of them all because he parades around like someone "you can trust". We all know how CoinFlex turned out and then of course Doug plays the idiot and acts like he had no idea and
    he is as surprised as anyone that everyone lost their money. Doug Polk is such a phony, just like everyone else in poker who claim to be someone who "helps the player" but then defends the site up and down no matter what. Just like you Druff! Fake, it's all fake and you are all probably getting checks from these sites to give the false sense of safety knowing full well that these sites are rigged AF. You, Doug Polk, and Joey Ingram are the worst kind of people. Wolves in sheep's clothing. I hope there is a special place in hell for people you scammers.


    First off, how does this explain why Doug had Martin Zamani on his show? Doug doesn't directly compete with online poker sites. He partially owns a live cardroom in Texas, and Bryn is going to be running or co-running an online poker site not serving US customers. In reality, Doug simply has preexisting bad blood with Bryn, and was thrilled to have an opportunity to trash him. However, it seems that Zamani's report was mostly credible, so what Doug did was fine.

    I don't understand how you claim I am a "scammer". I do not get "checks from these sites". I've turned down all affiliate advertising on here, as you might notice, which is why this site loses money. I am on nobody's payroll. Even if I was on a site's payroll, it would only be with the understanding that I would still report honestly on them. But as it stands, I have never been an affiliate or employee of any online gambling/poker site since PFA started.

    I have welcomed any and all reports against sites, poker rooms, and fellow players. Never once has one of those been censored, and I've always tried to get involved and look into what is claimed out here. I have helped many strangers over the years get their money back from both casinos and online poker/gambling sites when they got screwed. I was the only one who stood up and repeatedly called out ACR for their account-breach scandal this year, until they addressed it. I have repeatedly criticized Pokerstars, GGPoker, ACR, Bovada, Betonline, and several live venues including the WSOP when they deserved it. I have pissed off a lot of people at these sites/venues in the process.

    So tell me again how I'm a scammer or a shill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poker888 View Post
    So this is why Doug Polk went out of his way to smash Bryn's reputation. I couldn't understand why everyone was making such a big deal out of it. The guy is getting staked which means he is being given money. If Bryn wants him to go talk to a shamen then he needs to go talk to a shaman and not be a whiny bitch about it. There is a clear alternative to this, have your own money! Get a fucking job and then you don't have to try and ruin someone's reputation because you failed at life.

    Doug Polk is an obvious shill for these sites and so they all knew that Bryn was going to be launching a site and this all but prevents it from getting any momentum or taking away from any business. I thought it was really strange that Doug Polk gave that scumbag a platform. Doug Polk calling out someone like Bryn for being shady because he staked someone and had them go see a shaman. I bet Bryn paid for the shaman too so who gives a fuck? How about being Doug Polk and have a training website knowing that the sites are all rigged. He's the biggest scum of them all because he parades around like someone "you can trust". We all know how CoinFlex turned out and then of course Doug plays the idiot and acts like he had no idea and
    he is as surprised as anyone that everyone lost their money. Doug Polk is such a phony, just like everyone else in poker who claim to be someone who "helps the player" but then defends the site up and down no matter what. Just like you Druff! Fake, it's all fake and you are all probably getting checks from these sites to give the false sense of safety knowing full well that these sites are rigged AF. You, Doug Polk, and Joey Ingram are the worst kind of people. Wolves in sheep's clothing. I hope there is a special place in hell for people you scammers.
    Hi Bryn or whoever the fuck you are, perhaps just some pathetic micro grinder who cant even win at 1c/2c because you suck.

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