Hot take on Suns:
Having a Big 3 of players that are always injured, along with getting rid of your only good 3 and D wing who plays 40 minutes every game will not work out as hoped. What are the odds Durant, Paul and Booker can all get through the rest of the season and an entire playoff run? Cant be high.
Who is their starting small forward? Damien Lee?
Who is his backup? TJ Warren?
I was close when I called it. Just turned out to be 2 other guys vs DA and one of those guys. Honestly surprised DA wasn’t part of it and they unloaded Jae which needed to happen after things were awkward all season.Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
What a fucking haul for Brooklyn.
Phoenix now title favorites, provided Durant stays healthy.
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This is accurate. AD really is a beta cuckold, just like another big man who once played on the Lakers (and recently did again), Dwight Howard.AD is a beta cuckold but the most dominant big I have seen live since living in Portland. You can tell when he's healthy/dialed in, it's game over from the tip.
Even earlier this year he was owning, just gets hurt all of the time. Probably too big of a pussy to connect with LeBron, most players cannot hang.
Always respect guys like Dellavadova and Cedi Osman who can; even Kevin Love went from a whiny
idiotic to earning LeBron's trust.
You don't win championships as a beta cuckold, unless you're just a roleplayer. You need the competitive fire perpetually there, not just in spurts. I also agree that AD absolutely kicks ass when he's healthy and feeling confident, but those days are few and far between.
Lebron is more similar to Kobe than he realizes. Super-talented, super-driven, highly competitive, and very difficult to get along with. Kobe was an antisocial weirdo, whereas Lebron is an uber-arrogant asshole. The challenge with both of them has been putting a team around them which they won't alienate or lock horns with.
Compare them to someone like Shaq. Shaq was also very talented, and his huge body (both in height and strength) gave him a unique advantage. Personality-wise, he was likable and easy to get along with for most teammates (except Kobe). However, he also wasn't driven or competitive like Kobe or Lebron. He was perfectly happy just coasting on size and ability, while stuffing his fat face with food, acting, rapping, or even playing ride-along cop. Kobe and Lebron lived and breathed basketball, while Shaq was a guy who used basketball to pursue other side interests he had.
But back to AD. He's just not a leader. He's not the guy who will reliably carry a franchise on his shoulders -- at least not for any long stretch of time. He's best suited for an environment where the team can live without him, but to where his presence gives them a big boost. Being an essential #1 or #2 option will never work for him.
AD did win a college championship (as the clear #1) and NBA title (arguably was as good as LeBron), beta cuckoldry notwithstanding.This is accurate. AD really is a beta cuckold, just like another big man who once played on the Lakers (and recently did again), Dwight Howard.
You don't win championships as a beta cuckold, unless you're just a roleplayer. You need the competitive fire perpetually there, not just in spurts. I also agree that AD absolutely kicks ass when he's healthy and feeling confident, but those days are few and far between.
Lebron is more similar to Kobe than he realizes. Super-talented, super-driven, highly competitive, and very difficult to get along with. Kobe was an antisocial weirdo, whereas Lebron is an uber-arrogant asshole. The challenge with both of them has been putting a team around them which they won't alienate or lock horns with.
Compare them to someone like Shaq. Shaq was also very talented, and his huge body (both in height and strength) gave him a unique advantage. Personality-wise, he was likable and easy to get along with for most teammates (except Kobe). However, he also wasn't driven or competitive like Kobe or Lebron. He was perfectly happy just coasting on size and ability, while stuffing his fat face with food, acting, rapping, or even playing ride-along cop. Kobe and Lebron lived and breathed basketball, while Shaq was a guy who used basketball to pursue other side interests he had.
But back to AD. He's just not a leader. He's not the guy who will reliably carry a franchise on his shoulders -- at least not for any long stretch of time. He's best suited for an environment where the team can live without him, but to where his presence gives them a big boost. Being an essential #1 or #2 option will never work for him.
Talent goes a long way, he just lacks the fire that the absolute top tier players all have, where those around them have to adapt or get chewed up/traded. Zero leadership ability, which is necessary at that level unless you're Kawhi Leonard.
The only superstar who seems easy to play with is Nikola Jokic.
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LeBron is personally driven and self absorbed. Would have made a great tennis player.
Difference between MJ and LeBron … MJ would have set the personal record and WON THE GAME.
LeBron played no defense on the way to the Lakers loss especially toward the end of the game. He was doing the Olé as he waved opponents through on defense.
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20 years and 3 legit rings. I need to do some thinking on this. He will not be remembered the way you think of him now.
Lebron is in amazing shape at 38 still playing top tier basketball. Said he wants to play with son and to play for a few more years.
Thing is, Kobe embraced being the "bad guy". Black Mamba and all that.This is accurate. AD really is a beta cuckold, just like another big man who once played on the Lakers (and recently did again), Dwight Howard.
You don't win championships as a beta cuckold, unless you're just a roleplayer. You need the competitive fire perpetually there, not just in spurts. I also agree that AD absolutely kicks ass when he's healthy and feeling confident, but those days are few and far between.
Lebron is more similar to Kobe than he realizes. Super-talented, super-driven, highly competitive, and very difficult to get along with. Kobe was an antisocial weirdo, whereas Lebron is an uber-arrogant asshole. The challenge with both of them has been putting a team around them which they won't alienate or lock horns with.
Compare them to someone like Shaq. Shaq was also very talented, and his huge body (both in height and strength) gave him a unique advantage. Personality-wise, he was likable and easy to get along with for most teammates (except Kobe). However, he also wasn't driven or competitive like Kobe or Lebron. He was perfectly happy just coasting on size and ability, while stuffing his fat face with food, acting, rapping, or even playing ride-along cop. Kobe and Lebron lived and breathed basketball, while Shaq was a guy who used basketball to pursue other side interests he had.
But back to AD. He's just not a leader. He's not the guy who will reliably carry a franchise on his shoulders -- at least not for any long stretch of time. He's best suited for an environment where the team can live without him, but to where his presence gives them a big boost. Being an essential #1 or #2 option will never work for him.
LeBron seems to think he is some sort of hero, but he is basically just Durant with a couple more rings. As San said, history will eventually frown a bit on the team-hopping stars.
I think Lebron is the best 1-on-1 bball player ever. Nba all time? Barely top 10.
I never compare players I didn't see play but in my lifetime watching NBA, LeBron is easily #1 or #2 (Jordan) and it's not remotely close.Thing is, Kobe embraced being the "bad guy". Black Mamba and all that.
LeBron seems to think he is some sort of hero, but he is basically just Durant with a couple more rings. As San said, history will eventually frown a bit on the team-hopping stars.
I think Lebron is the best 1-on-1 bball player ever. Nba all time? Barely top 10.
He's been tainted by narrative but honestly can't imagine anyone with eyes thinking otherwise.
It's fine to not like him for whatever reason but any objective analysis indicates he's around the best ever.
Watch any game from the 80's and it's totally different in terms of pace and atleticism, just like he'll look inferior by the Next Best Guy in 10 or 20 years.
The 'greatest' is a narrative argument and is firmly Jordan, which no one has even sniffed yet.
But objectively, LeBron is still top 5 or 6 in the league in his 20th year.
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The difference isn’t pace and athleticism. The difference is the game itself.
80’s 90’s was fiercer and more competitive. Fewer teams (dilution). Harder folds. Fewer fouls. Better game flow.
Trash talk shouldn’t be omitted. The threat of violence. The mother fucking intensity. Those were just bonus
It’s like comparing Jerry Rice to (you pick) Larry Fitzgerald or OBJ. Football appears more “athletic” today (in spurts). However, it is a pass happy League today by design and rules. The result is too many fouls and terrible flow. Jerry Rice’s (Michael Jordan’s) accomplishments were accrued in a more competive and difficult environment.
It’s a softer easier game today in the NFL and NBA. (You have to give Tom Brady credit for succeeding in two eras.)
God only knows what the NBA will be in 10 or 20 years. If you shoot from a red dot you get 4 points and a blue dot 5. When shooting from that dot no defensive player can challenge you.
Hockey has great flow. There is still violence and few fouls. When a foul is called there is almost never any doubt or argument unlike the NBA/NFL. The consequence of a NHL foul is so great no one would intentionally commit one - think NBA and the last 4 minutes
Etc etc
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LeBron took the day off today. Which is not unusual but with continued regular rest he could play forever…. and no one will care.
The Lakers lost. Again. Neither LeBron nor anyone else really cares.
Comparison to MJ and maybe Kobe? GTFO with that. Those two woulda fought you if you sat them.
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Sloppy,
What is Portland doing. Flipping Payton and Hart for Reddish and Thybulle certainly isn't making them better in the short term. Seems they are just resigning themselves to play in game positioning for the foreseeable future.
Money plays. Like Thybulle on a team of shooters but they are not good and know it.
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how about victor wembayama sure i misspelled that he is 7 foot five and coordinated.
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Sure seems to be but often the hype train gets way out of hand.
The last guy that came with such hype was Zion Williamson. The media around him when he was in college was insane.
Zion has shown glimpses of living up to it but has mostly been too fat and looks to be injured in perpetuity for the rest of his career, a real shame as a fan of the league. One of the few active guys currently doing shit that amazes me just in terms of the athleticism and ferocity (Giannis is another).
Wemby looks the real deal but be extra wary of any guy over 7' holding up.
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Wemby is 3 inches taller than Chet....who is already missing his entire rookie year due to injury in a fuck-off summer game.Sure seems to be but often the hype train gets way out of hand.
The last guy that came with such hype was Zion Williamson. The media around him when he was in college was insane.
Zion has shown glimpses of living up to it but has mostly been too fat and looks to be injured in perpetuity for the rest of his career, a real shame as a fan of the league. One of the few active guys currently doing shit that amazes me just in terms of the athleticism and ferocity (Giannis is another).
Wemby looks the real deal but be extra wary of any guy over 7' holding up.
Same type of player. Tall, skinny, can play like a multi-positional type guy. Those body types arent meant to last 82 games. Durant has held up....decently well during his career? But these guys are a much taller than him.
Clips of Wemby that I see are amazing, but I wonder if Scoot is the real #1 pick here next year.
Makes you wonder if science and natural life are hitting a breaking point here. Much like these kids in baseball coming up throwing 102 mph fastballs with a 88 mph slider to boot, then their elbow is blown out by age 22.
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So the Lakers have been fairly hot in recent times, and have climbed to two over .500. They are almost clinched into the postseason, but are eyeing the 5-6 seeds, which would allow them to avoid the annoying play-in tournament.
Golden State and the Clippers lead them by 0.5, with 3 to play. Lakers have 4 to play.
Could the Lakers possibly win a championship in what appeared to be a failseason? Probably not, but it's not completely impossible.
Between getting rid of the weight known as Westbrick, and the good health at the moment of AD and Lebron, they have a shot to be very competitive if Davis goes through one of his hot streaks. It also helps that there is no dominant superteam in the NBA this year. The best team has a .718 record, which isn't exciting by NBA standards. In the West, Phoenix could be much tougher than their record indicates if everyone stays healthy, especially KD.
Hard to see the Lakers going all the way this year, but I won't be totally floored if they do.
I’m vaguely aware of Doncic having an emotional crisis following the arrival of Kyrie. I haven’t got into it but Kyrie’s career is legend.
Doncic actually asked for Kyrie? Kyrie Irving? Maybe he meant another Kyrie or something was messed up in translation.
I’ll take an article especially if it is humorous. I really don’t want to risk the exposure to the general NBA that a search might result in.
Gotta give Rob Pelinka credit for great deadline deals and (presumably) not caving to LeBron/Klutch and going after Kyrie.
Maybe the biggest 'if healthy' caveat on par with the other LA team in recent memory but any Lakers fan alive would take it in a heartbeat given where they were.
Western teams are kind of a shitty watch this year; aside from some young/bad teams like the Thunder and Jazz, the only good team I enjoy are the Kings, who are a cute story but will get rolled by a team with more talent.
Would hate it if it's Phoenix; I like Kevin Durant as a neutral but it would feel weird as a fan if the Blazers hypothetically mortgaged 10 years of the future for a1-2 year title shot with a mercenary.
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The end of the regular season has to be figured out; I jumped around League Pass last night and tried finding a game and multiple key players were resting up in all of them. Gave up when I put on Magic-Nets and Orlando was resting the probable ROY Paolo Banchero.
Imagine buying tickets for your family as a Christmas gift only to show up and all starters are resting. I can't imagine how teams like the Clippers navigate this to casuals.
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Watching Memphis/Lakers game 1
Very very sloppy play by Memphis in the 3rd. Finally called a TO after bleeding off the lead and down by 2.
Lakers of course have the talent to shock everyone and win the whole thing, especially without a super dominant team. Not likely, but possible. Memphis not gonna go far playing like this though.
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