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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    it took 5 days from the first non-travel related infection reports to map this virus' entire genome and thats honestly blowing my fucking mind right now.


    also weirdly in large part that quantum leap in tech was created by covid.
    The ultimate success of the mRNA vaccines (still up in the air, to be honest) will also have a lot of impact where mRNA technology goes over the next 2 decades.

    The technology has been around, but somewhat ignored. It was more relegated to the land of cute science projectdom, where researchers got together and said "what if", but we got no practical applications out of it.

    Along came COVID, and not only was a practical application developed for mRNA, but it was done in record time. At first it seemed to be a success beyond our wildest dreams, vastly outperforming old school vaccines such as the one for flu, and also outperforming non-mRNA COVID vaccines.

    Unfortunately, the "wearing off" effect is concerning, as is the fact that it seems natural immunity is superior.

    The long term safety profile of mRNA vaccines isn't known, either, and it won't be known until we get to the actual long term. So far it's looking pretty good (a year later, we aren't seeing a significant number of deaths or major health problems attributed to it), but that can change as we get farther out and can see things better.

    There has been talk that mRNA technology can eventually cure cancer and change medicine as we know it. Perhaps in 2050, people will look back at pre-mRNA medicine and scoff at those primitive days, the same way we look down upon pre-antibiotics medicine of the early 20th century. It's also possible that mRNA will take awhile to ever get going, especially if the vaccines are ultimately judged as a fail.

    given the number of people who basically got the sniffles instead of neurological damage / death thanks to the vaccines, its hard to imagine anyone New Gilead considering them a fail.

     
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    The CDC has just raised the Monkeypox alert level to Level 2.

    They’re now also recommending the use of masks to slow the spread.


    I’d love to hear someone who thinks the CDC isn’t merely a political organization defend this.

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    Oh yeah, Monkeypox, forgot about that one...

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    The complete ambiguity and gaslighting surrounding Monkeypox really is appalling. The establishment refuses to address even the most basic questions regarding this potential epidemic, like are there any verified cases outside the gay community or that haven't happened via anal sex. I guess at this point we just have to accept this is how public health is going to work now. The authorities just gaslight us nonstop all the time and wonder why no one trusts them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
    The CDC has just raised the Monkeypox alert level to Level 2.

    They’re now also recommending the use of masks to slow the spread.


    I’d love to hear someone who thinks the CDC isn’t merely a political organization defend this.
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    wear your masks yall

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    wear your masks yall
    Haven't heard from mickeycrimm in awhile. Thoughts and prayers

     
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    I have an idea: train murder hornets to kill monkeypox.

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    Stopping the spread would b e a worthwhile task. If the virus gets a hold in the animal pop it will likely be with us forever.
    The HC system is so fucked up every major drug maker is rooting for a new pandemic. Face the horror of how bad things have gotten.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post

    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    - 6 people on one flight caught it from a 7th person.
    - R0 is almost certainly above 2 so yeah, its another global pandemic.
    - Millennials and younger skipped smallpox vax because its no longer a thing and hippie shitbags and right wingers dont trust vaccines.

    lol. lmao.

    Stayed out of this but I just wanted to add comments from WHO and CDC regarding your r naught comment

    “"We don't really have any estimates of R-naught for the West African clade. Most of our estimates come from Congo Basin. And most of those estimates are less than 1."

    There is no global pandemic let alone even an epidemic. The numbers of cases were barely 200 globally when you posted this it has grown to roughly 2100 but laughably your comments about people dying it’s literally been 1 person who’s DIED actually since your so called pandemic. Cases of transmission are literally direct close contact (spelling it out it’s usually infected people having intimate contact with those who aren’t infected). Stick to BTC and other crypto shitcoins crashing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftpjesus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    - 6 people on one flight caught it from a 7th person.
    - R0 is almost certainly above 2 so yeah, its another global pandemic.
    - Millennials and younger skipped smallpox vax because its no longer a thing and hippie shitbags and right wingers dont trust vaccines.

    lol. lmao.

    Stayed out of this but I just wanted to add comments from WHO and CDC regarding your r naught comment

    “"We don't really have any estimates of R-naught for the West African clade. Most of our estimates come from Congo Basin. And most of those estimates are less than 1."

    There is no global pandemic let alone even an epidemic. The numbers of cases were barely 200 globally when you posted this it has grown to roughly 2100 but laughably your comments about people dying it’s literally been 1 person who’s DIED actually since your so called pandemic. Cases of transmission are literally direct close contact (spelling it out it’s usually infected people having intimate contact with those who aren’t infected). Stick to BTC and other crypto shitcoins crashing.
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    So the quiet part that no one in the establishment, including anyone at the CDC, is going to acknowledge is that all these Pride events are pretty much going to create a Monkeypox epidemic, where there wasn't one.

    Good stuff.

    I don't care one way or another which hole one consenting man sticks his penis in another. But that being said the politics surrounding public health, and how the authorities manufacture fake criseses (mask mandates outdoors and shutting down parks for a disease that doesn't spread outdoors) and then completely ignore real public health issues (thousands of gay dudes traveling and congregating to engage in orgies across the country during a monkeypox outbreak in the gay community), is not ideal.

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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    nobody cares fat boy perhaps they will at your shitcoin stock site

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    Just in from Apple news.....


    "WHO declares Monkey Pox a public health emergency of international concern"



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    In other news the WHO just declared monkeypox a global health emergency. Of course we have known exactly how monkeypox has been spreading for a long time, but have chosen to not deal with it effectively for completely political reasons. Any serious public health agency would have strongly advised cancellation of Pride events in June as a public health measure to slow/halt the spread of monkeypox. But none of our compromised, overtly politicized public health entities would ever even consider taking such a measure for purely political reasons.

    And now we have to deal with another failure of an overtly politicized public health apparatus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
    So the quiet part that no one in the establishment, including anyone at the CDC, is going to acknowledge is that all these Pride events are pretty much going to create a Monkeypox epidemic, where there wasn't one.

    Good stuff.

    I don't care one way or another which hole one consenting man sticks his penis in another. But that being said the politics surrounding public health, and how the authorities manufacture fake criseses (mask mandates outdoors and shutting down parks for a disease that doesn't spread outdoors) and then completely ignore real public health issues (thousands of gay dudes traveling and congregating to engage in orgies across the country during a monkeypox outbreak in the gay community), is not ideal.
    I would claim Nostradamus status, but this was the most obvious thing coming ever.

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