Disney's special privileges in Florida -- should they be removed?

[Dan Druff]

Desantis is somewhat of a slick politician type, but he's the best the Republicans have, and he really scares the Democratic Party.

He's young (born 1978), doesn't have a lot of baggage, good at pushing hard on issues where conservatives poll well with swing voters, and has a similar appeal to the working class as Trump did. At the same time, he doesn't have the flaws Trump carries, such as saying/tweeting stupid things, or having a shady past.

If you take Trump the politician and clean him up into a more polished and younger package, that's Desantis.

I generally like him. The whole slick politician vibe doesn't resonate with me very well, but all in all I think I'd be happy with Desantis as both a candidate and a President. Mitt Romney, for example, is someone I would have liked as President, but I never thought he was a good candidate.

Desantis running would also lock up Florida for the GOP, which has been happening anyway lately (even in 2020 when they lost), but it's still a swing state, and still nice to lock up those electoral votes which are now the 3rd most in the nation (ahead of New York!)

Texas/Florida now make up 70 total EVs, which almost negates the guaranteed 82 EVs from NY/CA going to the Dems.

[Entropy]

Our leaders are selected not elected and it's pretty clear Desantis is being groomed for a 2024 run.
There's like a 50% chance Disney is intentionally teeing it up high so Desantis can let it fly, if you know what I mean.

Dude you have to trust me, Desantis will be America's worst nightmare.
Never forget.


What if it's woke Biden v Desantis? We're screwed.

As a matter of fact, let's all agree to never discuss Desantis from this day forward.
Discuss Who?

Exactly.

the last time you responded to anything I said you said eat a dick and that you were muting Gordman and me. What's the issue with DeSantis?

Our task is to get someone who isn't in the good ol boys club. What's interesting is 2024 is Tucker Carlson's for the taking, it's to bad he has no presidential aspirations.
Not that he would do what needs to be done.

Eliminate the Federal Reserve, break up all the big hedge funds, tax every trade to pay for universal healthcare.
The odds are not on our side, not even close.

[Dan Druff]

The problem with talk show hosts attempting to run for office is that they speak so much that they're bound to have said stupid/offensive things at some point. There's just too much potential material out there to fuck them nowadays, especially given how easily everything can be auto-transcribed and searched nowadays.

I think Tucker realizes this, and is happy with his highly-rated show (and influence) on Fox News. He's kind of a modern version of Rush Limbaugh in some ways.

[Sanlmar]

Desantis is somewhat of a slick politician type, but he's the best the Republicans have, and he really scares the Democratic Party.

He's young (born 1978), doesn't have a lot of baggage, good at pushing hard on issues where conservatives poll well with swing voters, and has a similar appeal to the working class as Trump did. At the same time, he doesn't have the flaws Trump carries, such as saying/tweeting stupid things, or having a shady past.

If you take Trump the politician and clean him up into a more polished and younger package, that's Desantis.

I generally like him. The whole slick politician vibe doesn't resonate with me very well, but all in all I think I'd be happy with Desantis as both a candidate and a President. Mitt Romney, for example, is someone I would have liked as President, but I never thought he was a good candidate.

Desantis running would also lock up Florida for the GOP, which has been happening anyway lately (even in 2020 when they lost), but it's still a swing state, and still nice to lock up those electoral votes which are now the 3rd most in the nation (ahead of New York!)

Texas/Florida now make up 70 total EVs, which almost negates the guaranteed 82 EVs from NY/CA going to the Dems.

You forgot about the Republican power broker, Trump, in this narrative.

[Sloppy Joe]

Desantis is somewhat of a slick politician type, but he's the best the Republicans have, and he really scares the Democratic Party.

He's young (born 1978), doesn't have a lot of baggage, good at pushing hard on issues where conservatives poll well with swing voters, and has a similar appeal to the working class as Trump did. At the same time, he doesn't have the flaws Trump carries, such as saying/tweeting stupid things, or having a shady past.

If you take Trump the politician and clean him up into a more polished and younger package, that's Desantis.

I generally like him. The whole slick politician vibe doesn't resonate with me very well, but all in all I think I'd be happy with Desantis as both a candidate and a President. Mitt Romney, for example, is someone I would have liked as President, but I never thought he was a good candidate.

Desantis running would also lock up Florida for the GOP, which has been happening anyway lately (even in 2020 when they lost), but it's still a swing state, and still nice to lock up those electoral votes which are now the 3rd most in the nation (ahead of New York!)

Texas/Florida now make up 70 total EVs, which almost negates the guaranteed 82 EVs from NY/CA going to the Dems.

You forgot about the Republican power broker, Trump, in this narrative.

He (smartly) has molded himself as a Trump facsimile down to the hand gestures, capitalizing on dumb moves by the left and positioning himself well if Trump doesn't run.

Needs to ramp up the rhetoric soon to really appeal to the steady diet of schoolyard entertainment that Team Retard became accustomed to; doable if Trump doesn't run.

Do not see Trump ever endorsing anyone else and he has walked the line so far. If he can avoid drawing the ire of Trump at any point I like his chances.

[garrett]

No

anything they have in place to help Florida's economy should stay in place, but they should keep their mouth shut as a company about any laws going forward

Sooo WRONG

By that Logic you would say the Seminole Indian Tribe in the State of Florida. Should have no Competition either, right. You know Competition which is good for us the little guy. That is what keeps prices down, when you can choose to go next door and pay less, but in Florida you cant so easily in Casinos, the Seminole Indians has a Compact with the State of Florida here and let me tell you a little secret, to you maybe. Disney is fn major problem if they are against anything you want in the State of Florida and guess what, Disney doesn't want Gambling and more of it beyond the Seminole Indian Tribe which we have now, and Open Competition is how the 5Billion Dollar on the actual Beach Resorts come here and get built in Florida, but cant happen today, when Florida in Gaming is a Monopoly. No real actual massive entity wants that problem yet, i hope it happens sooner than later since honestly

I think Florida cna put Las vegas out of business in enoug years too. Since who is going to the Desert to Gamble when you could be sitting on a Beach in South Florida or somewhere Tropical, me im not going to the Desert, but i know how everyone's different. Florida has much going for it if a few things were just changed which will happen but that takes time years.

[Cerveza Fria]

No

anything they have in place to help Florida's economy should stay in place, but they should keep their mouth shut as a company about any laws going forward

Sooo WRONG

By that Logic you would say the Seminole Indian Tribe in the State of Florida. Should have no Competition either, right. You know Competition which is good for us the little guy. That is what keeps prices down, when you can choose to go next door and pay less, but in Florida you cant so easily in Casinos, the Seminole Indians has a Compact with the State of Florida here and let me tell you a little secret, to you maybe. Disney is fn major problem if they are against anything you want in the State of Florida and guess what, Disney doesn't want Gambling and more of it beyond the Seminole Indian Tribe which we have now, and Open Competition is how the 5Billion Dollar on the actual Beach Resorts come here and get built in Florida, but cant happen today, when Florida in Gaming is a Monopoly. No real actual massive entity wants that problem yet, i hope it happens sooner than later since honestly

I think Florida cna put Las vegas out of business in enoug years too. Since who is going to the Desert to Gamble when you could be sitting on a Beach in South Florida or somewhere Tropical, me im not going to the Desert, but i know how everyone's different. Florida has much going for it if a few things were just changed which will happen but that takes time years.

You raised some interesting points. You're correct in saying that Disney and the Seminole Tribe are the reason why Florida doesn't have the huge beach front casino resorts. But, they're not the only reasons. Norman Braman (Auto dealership owner and huge political donor), Dan Gelber (Mayor of Miami Beach) and Bahamas Board of Tourism are also key culprits in helping shoot down any gambling expansion in the State of Florida.

[devidee]

[circuitp]

I was going through my research tonight looking for the heavy hitter stuff with the Disney family-

https://humansbefree.com/2016/04/wal...occultist.html

this article is based off of several books written about Disney.

[devidee]

[MumblesBadly]

Apparently Disney was granted the rights in 1967 to operate as its own government entity in and near Disney World, allowing it to be free of any city or county laws. This also gave them the right to operate its own state-credentialed police force, run their own water and power utilities, and make their own laws within their territory. In short, Disney is the only corporation in the United States which was given the ability to act as its own incorporated city, which is pretty appalling.

A corporation acting as its own government entity is a horrible idea. Government exists as a check against the power of corporations. Imagine if you have an issue with a Disneyland employee, and the police are called. Would you want the police to be literally controlled by Disney? This is just one of many potential probelms which can come up.

LOL a modern-day Republican saying this: ”Government exists as a check against the power of corporations.”



Are you sure you aren’t a Democrat, Druff?

[devidee]

[circuitp]

lol how do I add a green box with names at the bottom of my posts? I see that but do not know how to use the sites features yet. Disney is definitely a huge scam. Most people are sleep walking through life and never consider the underside of the world .

[MumblesBadly]

I’ve been wondering why the Christian right hasn’t gone hard after Disney much sooner.

[FRANKRIZZO]

Opening post makes Disney sound like a Indian tribe. I stayed a few days with my son 5 years ago in the Florida was a good experience.

[Dan Druff]

Opening post makes Disney sound like a Indian tribe. I stayed a few days with my son 5 years ago in the Florida was a good experience.

It kind of is like an Indian tribe, especially in Florida.

Disney parks aren't a bad experience for the customer. Look at that story I told about the food outlet. The manager took that woman's rudeness to me (and the long wait for the custom order) very seriously, and provided me with three very valuable "skip the line" passes. I walked away satisfied. I wasn't even looking to get anything out of the complaint.

It just seems like a crappy place to work, unless you enjoy conformity and being part of what is supposed to be a hive mind.

It's somewhat different at Disney's non-park elements, especially because they own a shitload of TV networks, including ABC. That's where a lot of the recent walkouts/protesting was coming from.

I'm also not a big believer in boycotting huge corporations when they take a political stance I dislike. If I like the product/service, I generally ignore the company's politics and keep using it. My boycotts tend to come from either negative personal experiences or outright scammy behavior from the company.

It would be great if corporations simply stopped bowing to the pressure from the woke minority to take a stand on political issues. Most Americans don't want or need corporations nosing into politics. For every left-winger they lose via boycott, they will probably gain more additional customers from the right.

Remember how people on left-wing social media tried to cancel Chik-Fil-A and Goya? Neither of those efforts worked, and in fact both benefited from the publicity. More corporations need to give the woke activists a middle finger and just go on doing business.

[Dan Druff]

circuitp,

You are welcome to express any political views, including conspiracy theories. However, please do not spam large screen shots in threads (especially ones other people start), and please do not attempt to hijack the discussion to these conspiracy theories.

If you'd like to discuss the Ghislaine Maxwell/Jeffrey Epstein situation, we already have a thread for that.

This thread is to discuss Desants' recent threat to have Disney's special privileges in Florida removed.

I have deleted all conspiratorial posts about the Maxwell stuff (and responses to them), as they don't belong in this thread.

[circuitp]

circuitp,

You are welcome to express any political views, including conspiracy theories. However, please do not spam large screen shots in threads (especially ones other people start), and please do not attempt to hijack the discussion to these conspiracy theories.

If you'd like to discuss the Ghislaine Maxwell/Jeffrey Epstein situation, we already have a thread for that.

This thread is to discuss Desants' recent threat to have Disney's special privileges in Florida removed.

I have deleted all conspiratorial posts about the Maxwell stuff (and responses to them), as they don't belong in this thread.

How can I not repsond in these threads where most of the posts are not factual ? Is this not Poker Fraud Alert?

I didn't start any of these threads. I understand no one liking walls of posts but the pompous ignorance is a little much considering what they post in reply is the lowest IQ stuff I've seen in quite some time. Four word responses like their rig is in the trailer park or something. I thought this was a poker forum where thinkers reside.

I guess I came to the wrong place again. Its ok to call out poker fraud or any individual scammer but let it be centered around worldwide mayhem and murder and slavery and that's just fine , let people start threads with their uninformed opinions.

I already know that " The Goyim Know" is what the dms say and thats fine. enough people seen the truth in here my work is done

[Dan Druff]

circuitp,

You are welcome to express any political views, including conspiracy theories. However, please do not spam large screen shots in threads (especially ones other people start), and please do not attempt to hijack the discussion to these conspiracy theories.

If you'd like to discuss the Ghislaine Maxwell/Jeffrey Epstein situation, we already have a thread for that.

This thread is to discuss Desants' recent threat to have Disney's special privileges in Florida removed.

I have deleted all conspiratorial posts about the Maxwell stuff (and responses to them), as they don't belong in this thread.

How can I not repsond in these threads where most of the posts are not factual ? Is this not Poker Fraud Alert?

I didn't start any of these threads. I understand no one liking walls of posts but the pompous ignorance is a little much considering what they post in reply is the lowest IQ stuff I've seen in quite some time. Four word responses like their rig is in the trailer park or something. I thought this was a poker forum where thinkers reside.

I guess I came to the wrong place again. Its ok to call out poker fraud or any individual scammer but let it be centered around worldwide mayhem and murder and slavery and that's just fine , let people start threads with their uninformed opinions.

I already know that " The Goyim Know" is what the dms say and thats fine. enough people seen the truth in here my work is done

The most important aspect for any forum (not just this one) is readability and the ability for threads to stay on topic. Otherwise, everything turns to complete shit.

I don't ever censor ideology here. Even if you don't agree with a political or conspiratorial theory, I always let it stand. However, I can't have this stuff cluttering/ruining existing threads. In this case, I started the thread to discuss the interesting situation regarding Disney's special privileges to act as their own city in Florida, and the potential removal being threatened by Desantis. I don't want it to turn into a conspiracy-fest about Epstein and Maxwell.

[Gordman]

circuitp,

You are welcome to express any political views, including conspiracy theories. However, please do not spam large screen shots in threads (especially ones other people start), and please do not attempt to hijack the discussion to these conspiracy theories.

If you'd like to discuss the Ghislaine Maxwell/Jeffrey Epstein situation, we already have a thread for that.

This thread is to discuss Desants' recent threat to have Disney's special privileges in Florida removed.

I have deleted all conspiratorial posts about the Maxwell stuff (and responses to them), as they don't belong in this thread.

How can I not repsond in these threads where most of the posts are not factual ? Is this not Poker Fraud Alert?

I didn't start any of these threads. I understand no one liking walls of posts but the pompous ignorance is a little much considering what they post in reply is the lowest IQ stuff I've seen in quite some time. Four word responses like their rig is in the trailer park or something. I thought this was a poker forum where thinkers reside.

I guess I came to the wrong place again. Its ok to call out poker fraud or any individual scammer but let it be centered around worldwide mayhem and murder and slavery and that's just fine , let people start threads with their uninformed opinions.

I already know that " The Goyim Know" is what the dms say and thats fine. enough people seen the truth in here my work is done

So... cool, you're finally leaving then?

The fact that you think anyone is really reading more than 1.5% of your useless schizophrenic posts here is beyond laughable.

I remember that you complained when you started posting here that 2+2 instantly banned you for making posts.

Well, no fucking wonder! Amongst a massive heap of terrible decisions they've made over the years, that was one decision they apparently made correctly.

Im sure there is a conspiracy forum somewhere that you'll fit right in with. Maybe you can even post a new conspiracy there how everyone is trying to "silence" you.

Good riddance.

Edit: oh, pro tip- maybe you can recruit Entropy to go with you. You'd get extra brownie points with them, we would be happy as well. Win win!