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    1st NATO member to provide such aircraft to Ukraine

    The Associated Press Posted: Mar 16, 2023 1:01 PM CDT | Last Updated: March 16


    "A Polish air force MiG-29 aircraft fires flares during a performance at the Radom Air Show in 2013.

    Poland says it will send four of the jets to Ukraine to help in its defence against Russia. (Kacper Pempel/Reuters)

    Poland's president said Thursday that his country plans to give Ukraine around a dozen MiG-29 fighter jets, which would make it the first NATO member to fulfil the Ukrainian government's increasingly urgent requests for warplanes.
    President Andrzej Duda said Poland would hand over four of the Soviet-made warplanes "within the next few days" and that the rest needed servicing and would be supplied later. The Polish word he used to describe the total number can mean between 11 and 19.
    One of Ukraine's staunchest supporters, Warsaw has taken a leading role in persuading sometimes hesitant allies to provide Kyiv with heavy weaponry. It has said that any transfer of jets would be as part of a coalition.
    "Firstly, literally within the next few days, we will hand over, as far as I remember, four aircraft to Ukraine in full working order," Duda told a news conference."

    And more to come
    This is big. A country like Poland fully understands aggressors. They are not shy
    as to what is needed and they certainly are not afraid of any war cries.

    Putin's nuclear threats. Laughed at. Putin then laughed at.

    First of all these fighter jets match much of what Russia has and uses.
    The initiative by Poland breaks the period of "wait and see"

    There are 50 nations who oppose the illegal Russian invasion.
    Some of those are in supply of fighter jets that would crush
    outdated Russian technology. Not my opinion.

    Poland's initiative is very welcome and it will lead the way to further
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      1dollarboxcar: you are an idiot..... them jets will only last about an hour in the air in any type of confrontation with Russian jets
      
      OK2: Wet brain
      
      splitthis: Pickled brain
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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by country978 View Post

    Baron I would like to know how life has changed for you since this all began and what do you think is a likely scenario that might end hostilities? Also, do you Druff or anyone else know anything about Gimmick? He's from Finland and would be a person to provide some interesting context to the thread.
    I am not going to speak for anyone but if you know any history the Finns have serious issues with the Russians.
    The Finns and Swedes, after decades of "neutrality" have decided to join NATO because of Russian aggression against Ukraine

    Any questions as to the illegitimacy of this war seem to be coming from America.
    America, where the political divide is so great sides are drawn over a communist nation's invasion
    of a democracy.

     
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      splitthis: He is lol

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    I've heard all kinds of military experts weighing in on this or that strength for either side and one thing is
    constant. The morale of a Russian soldier vs. a Ukrainian is not comparable.

    It's a huge factor in any battle plus a lot of others would like to see you win.
    Do the math.
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    "I welcome today’s decision by Turkey to move ahead with the ratification of Finland’s membership in NATO. This will strengthen Finland’s security, it will strengthen Sweden’s security, and it will strengthen NATO’s security. I hope that the Turkish Grand National Assembly will vote to ratify as soon as possible."

    no roadblocks. quite important

    This ratification means any aggression against NATO member, now including Sweden and Finland, is an aggression on all members. So if the Ukraine was a NATO member this invasion would never have happened.

    Not my opinion again "this war is becoming a death trap for Russian soldiers"
    "They are trading territory for lives"

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    "The Ukrainians ain't going anywhere." More than 20% of the Ukrainian population has fled Ukraine. There are 3 million Ukrainian refugees in, get this, Russia. Another 5 million spread across Europe. And they all say they will never go back to Ukraine. The population, once 27 million is now about 19 million. How many more will leave? Meanwhile Zelensky is now sending old men and boys to war. That's always a last ditch effort.

    Most of the heavy industry is in Eastern Ukraine, along with 90% of the oil and 80% of the natural gas. The Russians are now in control of all of that. So they were fighting the Ukrainian Army and trying to preserve all that infrastructure at the same time. For all intents and purposes the Russians have annexed Eastern Ukraine and will never give it up.

    In the south the Russians are just 75 miles from Odesa. If Odesa falls whats left of Ukraine will be completely cut off from the Black Sea. The Russians will probably take Odesa to protect Crimea.

    Sanlimar is right. All hell will probably break out this summer when better weather conditions arrive. The Russians probably don't care about Kyiv but will probably lay siege to it to destroy the Zelensky government.

    The Russians probably don't care much about territory west of Kyiv/Odesa as it is all agriculture. The real money is in eastern Ukraine. The Russians will probably stop when they take enough territory that bombs can't be lobbed into Russia.
    Please quote your sources. You are not the source of such statements obv. so who is it you are quoting?

    You proceed to state all kinds of scenarios based on "the news" that you provide no link to.

    Don't bother with sentences beginning with "The Russians will probably."
    Here's what ya do, dumbfuck. Google around and see if you can find information that counters mine. Then put your argument up....instead of being a mentally lazy fuck. Here's a hint. You won't find the information at the bottom of a bottle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post

    Please quote your sources. You are not the source of such statements obv. so who is it you are quoting?

    You proceed to state all kinds of scenarios based on "the news" that you provide no link to.

    Don't bother with sentences beginning with "The Russians will probably."
    Here's what ya do, dumbfuck. Google around and see if you can find information that counters mine. Then put your argument up....instead of being a mentally lazy fuck. Here's a hint. You won't find the information at the bottom of a bottle.
    That's not how it works. You say this, you must back this up. End of story.
    Where did you gather your information? Pretty simple.
    Why have you received this information and not others?
    You can't even begin to address it.
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    To any of you who are indifferent re: the Russian war against Ukraine.

    Defending your country, your family, is unquestionable. We would all do it.

    Wars are also fought on ideologies.

    This war is not about ideology. It's a land grab, making it even worse

    Many dead in the hopes of greater control/greater profit.

    Most importantly the invader is a group of people who employ force and intimidation

    on their own people. Too many have fought and died for our

    personal freedoms. There is no going back.

    You stand as one

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    1dollarboxcar: you are an idiot..... them jets will only last about an hour in the air in any type of confrontation with Russian jets
    OK2: Wet

    These people do not agree. But they offer no opinion.

    If you support anyone who is indifferent or against the fight for
    personal freedoms/democracy you must ask them why?
    A simple question that can be answered.

    A sad as it is some of the lucky, those born into
    a free society are using the war effort as a tool.
    They are casting doubt as to the benefits in supporting this conflict.
    All political
    This is old. It was done during WWI, WWII and was almost successful.
    Thank god it failed.
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    You’re the child of the 60’s limitles.

    Some of us think we should give peace a chance. By “some of us” I mean only one or two but the numbers are growing. We aren’t necessarily choosing sides.

    Of course, the negotiation ship sailed.

    I really think Raytheon stock is about to break out. Gonna crank out Patriot missiles like you read about. Good jobs for Americans


    Hey, we missed March 16th the anniversary of the Mỹ Lai Massacre. How about some CSNY or Bon Dylan?



    If you see Druff in this thread DM me and I’ll take care of him for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    let's get conscription started back up, we will quickly see how no one gives a shit about Ukraine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    You’re the child of the 60’s limitles.

    Some of us think we should give peace a chance. By “some of us” I mean only one or two but the numbers are growing. We aren’t necessarily choosing sides.

    Of course, the negotiation ship sailed.

    I really think Raytheon stock is about to break out. Gonna crank out Patriot missiles like you read about. Good jobs for Americans


    Hey, we missed March 16th the anniversary of the Mỹ Lai Massacre. How about some CSNY or Bon Dylan?

    Sure sure



    letting the foot of a war machine is not same regardless of your stock holdings
    you did notice the aftermath? The Republicans weren't the same for a few years at least

    Reason#3 to hate Americans
    shellfishnes

    anyway these money types have to sit back and guess. they have no heart or soul
    so they are somewhat dumbfounded. Why would anyone fight when the roi is so low?
    disregard this type.

    they do believe they have figured it out. like a bookie they get their cut. inwardly they suffer
    they are monkeys on the back
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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    1st NATO member to provide such aircraft to Ukraine

    The Associated Press Posted: Mar 16, 2023 1:01 PM CDT | Last Updated: March 16


    "A Polish air force MiG-29 aircraft fires flares during a performance at the Radom Air Show in 2013.

    Poland says it will send four of the jets to Ukraine to help in its defence against Russia. (Kacper Pempel/Reuters)

    Poland's president said Thursday that his country plans to give Ukraine around a dozen MiG-29 fighter jets, which would make it the first NATO member to fulfil the Ukrainian government's increasingly urgent requests for warplanes.
    President Andrzej Duda said Poland would hand over four of the Soviet-made warplanes "within the next few days" and that the rest needed servicing and would be supplied later. The Polish word he used to describe the total number can mean between 11 and 19.
    One of Ukraine's staunchest supporters, Warsaw has taken a leading role in persuading sometimes hesitant allies to provide Kyiv with heavy weaponry. It has said that any transfer of jets would be as part of a coalition.
    "Firstly, literally within the next few days, we will hand over, as far as I remember, four aircraft to Ukraine in full working order," Duda told a news conference."

    And more to come
    This is big. A country like Poland fully understands aggressors. They are not shy
    as to what is needed and they certainly are not afraid of any war cries.

    Putin's nuclear threats. Laughed at. Putin then laughed at.

    First of all these fighter jets match much of what Russia has and uses.
    The initiative by Poland breaks the period of "wait and see"

    There are 50 nations who oppose the illegal Russian invasion.
    Some of those are in supply of fighter jets that would crush
    outdated Russian technology. Not my opinion.

    Poland's initiative is very welcome and it will lead the way to further
    contributions







    LOL at Poland sending a knife to a gunfight. The Migs eastern European countries like Poland and Slovakia have are 40 years old. Migs have always had a severe maintenance problem. The Russians retired the Migs and moved on to the Su series, of which they are known to have a thousand of them. The Su's are far superior to the antiquated Migs.

    Here's what the numbers look like:
    Poland has 28 Migs
    Slovakia has 13 Migs

    All they are doing is sending the Migs down to slaughter. Meanwhile young boys and old men are being kidnapped and sent to the front line in Ukraine. Peace could be had if NATO sued for peace. But they would rather see thousands of Ukrainians killed every day until no one is left.
    THE TRUMPS GOT RICH THEN WENT INTO POLITICS. THE BIDENS WENT INTO POLITICS THEN GOT RICH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    Here's what ya do, dumbfuck. Google around and see if you can find information that counters mine. Then put your argument up....instead of being a mentally lazy fuck. Here's a hint. You won't find the information at the bottom of a bottle.
    That's not how it works. You say this, you must back this up. End of story.
    Where did you gather your information? Pretty simple.
    Why have you received this information and not others?
    You can't even begin to address it.
    If you think I'm wrong then prove it.

     
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      Baron Von Strucker: MC is a gay homophobe with horns and a tail. FACT… prove me wrong
    THE TRUMPS GOT RICH THEN WENT INTO POLITICS. THE BIDENS WENT INTO POLITICS THEN GOT RICH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    To any of you who are indifferent re: the Russian war against Ukraine.

    Defending your country, your family, is unquestionable. We would all do it.

    Wars are also fought on ideologies.

    This war is not about ideology. It's a land grab, making it even worse

    Many dead in the hopes of greater control/greater profit.

    Most importantly the invader is a group of people who employ force and intimidation

    on their own people. Too many have fought and died for our

    personal freedoms. There is no going back.

    You stand as one

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    1dollarboxcar: you are an idiot..... them jets will only last about an hour in the air in any type of confrontation with Russian jets
    OK2: Wet

    These people do not agree. But they offer no opinion.

    If you support anyone who is indifferent or against the fight for
    personal freedoms/democracy you must ask them why?
    A simple question that can be answered.

    A sad as it is some of the lucky, those born into
    a free society are using the war effort as a tool.
    They are casting doubt as to the benefits in supporting this conflict.
    All political
    This is old. It was done during WWI, WWII and was almost successful.
    Thank god it failed.
    You're not worth seriously responding to. You're a deluded retard. Suck it

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    Remember Turtleknife?


    So All the major poker sites got permission or were forced to steal the deposits from all their Russian players? Fuck that, make them put their money up in some free rolls. Don't let them quietly keep it.

    Edit: And don't let them send it to track suit Zelensky.

     
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      mickeycrimm: Fucking Russians!
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    This could easily go in the fuck white people thread. This whole war can go in the FWP thread because that's the real goal of this war.
    It's undeniable, once you understand that then everything else makes sense.
    https://abcnews.go.com/International...-poor-97959305

    Russia, Ukraine extend grain deal to aid world's poor
    KYIV, Ukraine -- An unprecedented wartime deal that allowed grain to flow from Ukraine to countries in Africa, the Middle East and Asia where hunger is a growing threat and high food prices are pushing more people into poverty was extended just before its expiration date, officials said Saturday.

    They can't agree on anything, they refuse to even hold talks. Everything sanctioned, economy devastated, Europe's gas supply cut off, Russia cut from SWIFT system. Russia money seized, risk of people freezing and starvation.
    Leaders yapping about how we need to sacrifice.


    Oh wait, to even risk a food shortage in Africa and Asia. Fuck that, all of a sudden the leadership of all countries involved come together and hash out a unprecedented deal.
    Unfuckingbelievable
    Geneva convention rules out the window, pow torture and war crimes galore but to even risk a food shortage in Africa.
    That's the one rule that's been honored by both sides this entire war, give me a fucking break.

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      Entropy: Yep, that sums it up.
    THE TRUMPS GOT RICH THEN WENT INTO POLITICS. THE BIDENS WENT INTO POLITICS THEN GOT RICH.

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    MOSCOW (AP) — Russian troops launched their anticipated attack on Ukraine on Thursday, as President Vladimir Putin cast aside international condemnation and sanctions, warning other countries that any attempt to interfere would lead to “consequences you have never seen.”
    https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-europe-russia-moscow-kyiv-626a8c5ec22217bacb24ece60fac4fe1

    A little more than a year in and Putin's warnings have been ignored. Poland and
    Slovakia have stepped up. The full article is worth reading.

    Nothing hidden, no back doors. Obviously there is and has been massive support from many nations but this move by Poland and Slovakia is not just material it's symbolic.






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    Ukraine winning, send more billions because Ukraine is winning and the end of this war is near and Ukraine gonna win , send your sons and daughters to fight in Ukraine, cause Ukraine winning... most y'all are fools and you know who you are ......



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    Quote Originally Posted by OK2 View Post
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe...ing-in-ukraine
    A Kiwi soldier fighting under Ukraine’s military intelligence says he’s prepared to die.
    Kane Te Tai, code name Turtle, is fighting in a secretive reconnaissance unit on Ukraine’s front line in the eastern Donetsk region.
    After deaths, injuries and resignations, Te Tai now leads the Foreign Reconnaissance Team after only joining in July.
    As Te Tai was interviewed, he had to be careful his phone wasn’t too bright, so as to not give his unit away to any Russian drones flying overhead.
    “We live on the line, we just occupy whatever place we can find at the time. If it gets too hot we just find somewhere else,” he told Stuff.
    “The last three vehicles we’ve had, in the last month, they’ve been hit with artillery. Holes in the front, s... just smashed through.”
    “I remember just looking at everyone in the pit and we all had this look on our faces like, ‘well, the party had to end some time’. We had this feeling of acceptance.”
    But, just as the next shell was set to kill the team, it flew off somewhere else and the Russians then began to bomb regressively back along the tree line.
    By divine intervention we missed getting smashed... We all knew we were supposed to die that night.”
    “Pretty much from the second they take you into the camp, they don’t tell you what’s going on.
    “They operate it like a psychological test, to see if you can be just told what to do and not know any other parameters,” he said.
    “When you talk to someone, it’s always a cover story, you’re never talking to who you think you’re talking to,” Te Tai said
    “As soon as we pulled up... Dom had no shirt on... he said, ‘let’s do some work’.”

    “I was like ‘my man!’.”

    Abelen had put in a good word for him with Ukrainian intelligence, Te Tai said.
    He gave Te Tai the code name of Turtle, after he had originally named himself Talon. Talon was too cool, Abelen said
    “There’s a high attrition rate either by death, injury, or guys wanting to leave.”
    At night Te Tai watches Netflix and YouTube fail compilations to decompress. Sometimes, he hears the Russians shelling, keeping him awake.
    “Don’t get me wrong, I don’t find anything glorious about killing young mobilised Russian boys who are crying in their trenches,” he said.
    “I’m willing to die, for sure, but I don’t want to die.”
    Te Tai has no plans to leave and wants to attend a victory day parade in Kyiv.
    “I know we’re going to win, I know that for sure,” he said.
    “I’m staying here until I can’t take it any more, or I am dead.”

    Here he is showing us how many mens assholes he's been inside of this week
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...lled-in-action

    RNZ understands a New Zealander fighting on the front line in Ukraine has been killed in action.

    Sources there say they have been told by the man's unit commander that the soldier was killed in a battle in the east of the country.

    Kane Te Tai, a former New Zealand Defence Force soldier, had been in Ukraine for almost a year.


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    Everyone scoffed when I mentioned killing max number of white people is the real goal.
    Greenwald confirms it, he just doesn't say white.


    How fucked up is it for Biden and the media to dupe everyone into "supporting Ukraine" when in fact the plan is to sacrifice Ukraine.
    It's fucked up how Zelensky and the Ukranian media duped the Ukranians into supporting him. Zelensky promised he would even do a deal with the devil if it brought peace with Russia.
    Biden and his cabinet are cold blooded, evil motherfuckers. Biden was the principal cheerleader (along with Madellaine Allbright + MSM) for the unprecedented bombing of civilians in Yugoslavia/Serbia.

    Killing people abroad, imprisoning people at home.
    Biden reminds me of Stalin, same evil squint, same mannerisms.

    Speaking of Serbia, former Yugoslavia. I just found this out yesterday they have laws against genocide denial..
    Everyone knows the US and NATO made that genocide stuff up as an excuse to bomb Yugoslavia.
    The real reason was to distract from the Monica Lewinsky scandal and the fact that they were white was a bonus.
    That's not in dispute, it was a total war crime thru and thru..

    But in the former Yugoslavia it's illegal to deny that genocide. Recently some Serbian leader said in a speech there was no genocide and now he's under criminal investigation for genocide denial.
    Everyone knows it was bs but you better not say it. Haha that's fucked up.

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    NATO good, Russia nyet


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