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    *** OFFICIAL *** Poker Fraud Alert Radio Thread for 01/08/2022 --- ** $50 FREEROLL *** 9:30pm PST START TIME

    Show will begin around 9:30pm PST on January 8, 2022.

    You can listen by going to our Radio tab above, or clicking here: http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/radio.php

    "Call To Listen Line": Call (605) 313-0736 to listen to the show from ANY PHONE in the world! No smartphone or app required! If you do have a smartphone, this will NOT cost you any data. There's an alternate number at (641) 741-1095.

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    You can also text Druff at any time before, during, or after the show, at (775) 372-8355 (our main phone number).

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    We have a $50 freeroll tonight!


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    Agenda for today:

    - Interview with self-professed high-stakes casino crusher Mikki Mase -- is he for real?

    - Doug Polk, Andrew Neeme, and Brad Owen become partners in Austin-area poker room

    - Flashback: In 2001, Druff received intense secret admirer e-mails from someone who knew him well -- was it another guy?

    - PayPal, Venmo, other apps ordered to report transactions of over $600 to IRS

    - Flashback: Civil forfeiture case against two poker players in 2006 made it to US Supreme Court, and had major effect on e-commerce law

    - Women trick gambler at Caesars Palace to take them to his room, steal his stuff, put it in their vaginas

    - MGM MLife and Caesars Rewards majorly degrading tier credit earnings from on-property spending in 2022

    - Druff has $400 in RCs missing from Caesars Rewards, and nobody will provide any useful answers

    - Four online sportsbooks launched January 8 in New York state, Caesars' app had issues

    -- Coronavirus news:
    - It's now being acknowledged that cloth masks are mostly useless -- were they ever helpful against COVID?
    - There's a problem with US COVID death number reporting, and it needs to be fixed immediately

    - Please suggest other good topics if you don't see them here!

    - We take your phone calls at (775) FRAUD-55 or (775) 372-8355

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    - It's now being acknowledged that cloth masks are mostly useless -- were they ever helpful against COVID?
    This bullet point is a misrepresentation (though to be fair, I haven't heard the actual podcast yet).

    If both parties are wearing a cloth mask, it doubles the safe contact time, and so they continue to be effective for casual contact (out and about in stores, etc.)

    Secondly, the article this is from states that this specifically applied only to the new highly infection omicron variant.

    ref: https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/...-stop-covid-19

    So an accurate statement would be:

    - It's now being acknowledged that specifically for the omicron variant, cloth masks are mostly useless for long-term exposure of > 30 minutes of contact

    Also any attempt to retroactively apply what we know about this new omicron strain to past incarnations of COVID-19 is intellectually disingenuous, and flys in the face of a mountain of studies, and the overwhelming consensus of experts around the world:

    Conclusion
    Our review of the literature offers evidence in favor of widespread mask use as source control to reduce community transmission: Nonmedical masks use materials that obstruct particles of the necessary size; people are most infectious in the initial period postinfection, where it is common to have few or no symptoms (45, 46, 141); nonmedical masks have been effective in reducing transmission of respiratory viruses; and places and time periods where mask usage is required or widespread have shown substantially lower community transmission.

    The available evidence suggests that near-universal adoption of nonmedical masks when out in public, in combination with complementary public health measures, could successfully reduce Re to below 1, thereby reducing community spread if such measures are sustained. Economic analysis suggests that mask wearing mandates could add 1 trillion dollars to the US GDP (32, 34).
    ref: https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118#sec-22

    If you have evidence to refute the conclusions of the group of experts at the National Academy of Sciences, and the 141 studies & papers that they cite as references on the effectiveness of masks, but all means, present it.

    What I do agree with you is that we clearly need to treat each strain of the virus as its own unique thing, and adjust our behavior based on the unique characteristics of each strain.

    If we acknowledge that, by inference, it is also incorrect to then apply what we know about the current omicron strain to previous incarnations of the virus.

    The advice from experts continues to be consistent:

    What we can do

    When it comes to understanding the spread of COVID-19 and vaccination, Dr. Laguio-Vila suggests reorienting our expectations about how to approach both the virus and the vaccine.

    “There was a great hope that this vaccine would be a silver bullet,” Dr. Laguio-Vila said. “But now, I think we need to readjust our expectations based on what we are learning. For us to expect zero infections when half of the globe is vaccinated, there is a hubris in that. This is a humbling virus that we are learning to prevent and evade using science. We need to evolve our understanding as much as the virus evolves.”

    As we work to keep our minds open, there are steps we can continue to take to ensure we are as well protected as we can be against COVID-19.

    Get vaccinated: COVID-19 vaccines are available at local pharmacies, doctor’s offices, and other locations in many of our communities. This is proving to be the best form of prevention we have against the virus.

    Get boosted: If you are 18 years old or older and received your COVID-19 vaccine at least two months ago (Johnson & Johnson), or five months ago (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna), you are now eligible for a booster shot. For 12 to 17 year olds who received the Pfizer vaccine, the booster shot has also been approved.

    Wear a mask: Properly wearing a medical mask while at indoor public locations can reduce the risk of contracting COVID-19

    Practice good hand hygiene: Wash your hands with soap and water frequently, especially after spending time in public spaces. This means rinsing for at least 20 seconds.

    Physical distancing: Stay six feet or more apart from other people in public spaces.
    -- Maryrose R. Laguio-Vila, MD, Internal Medicine, Infectious Disease

    ref: https://hive.rochesterregional.org/2...een-vaccinated

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by khalwat View Post
    This bullet point is a misrepresentation (though to be fair, I haven't heard the actual podcast yet).

    If both parties are wearing a cloth mask, it doubles the safe contact time, and so they continue to be effective for casual contact (out and about in stores, etc.)

    Secondly, the article this is from states that this specifically applied only to the new highly infection omicron variant.

    ref: https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/...-stop-covid-19

    So an accurate statement would be:

    - It's now being acknowledged that specifically for the omicron variant, cloth masks are mostly useless for long-term exposure of > 30 minutes of contact

    Also any attempt to retroactively apply what we know about this new omicron strain to past incarnations of COVID-19 is intellectually disingenuous, and flys in the face of a mountain of studies, and the overwhelming consensus of experts around the world:

    Conclusion
    Our review of the literature offers evidence in favor of widespread mask use as source control to reduce community transmission: Nonmedical masks use materials that obstruct particles of the necessary size; people are most infectious in the initial period postinfection, where it is common to have few or no symptoms (45, 46, 141); nonmedical masks have been effective in reducing transmission of respiratory viruses; and places and time periods where mask usage is required or widespread have shown substantially lower community transmission.

    The available evidence suggests that near-universal adoption of nonmedical masks when out in public, in combination with complementary public health measures, could successfully reduce Re to below 1, thereby reducing community spread if such measures are sustained. Economic analysis suggests that mask wearing mandates could add 1 trillion dollars to the US GDP (32, 34).
    ref: https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118#sec-22

    If you have evidence to refute the conclusions of the group of experts at the Nation Academy of Sciences, and the 141 studies & papers that they cite as references on the effectiveness of masks, but all means, present it.

    What I do agree with you is that we clearly need to treat each strain of the virus as its own unique thing, and adjust our behavior based on the unique characteristics of each strain.

    If we acknowledge that, by inference, it is also incorrect to then apply what we know about the current omicron strain to previous incarnations of the virus.

    The advice from experts continues to be consistent:

    What we can do

    When it comes to understanding the spread of COVID-19 and vaccination, Dr. Laguio-Vila suggests reorienting our expectations about how to approach both the virus and the vaccine.

    “There was a great hope that this vaccine would be a silver bullet,” Dr. Laguio-Vila said. “But now, I think we need to readjust our expectations based on what we are learning. For us to expect zero infections when half of the globe is vaccinated, there is a hubris in that. This is a humbling virus that we are learning to prevent and evade using science. We need to evolve our understanding as much as the virus evolves.”

    As we work to keep our minds open, there are steps we can continue to take to ensure we are as well protected as we can be against COVID-19.

    Get vaccinated: COVID-19 vaccines are available at local pharmacies, doctor’s offices, and other locations in many of our communities. This is proving to be the best form of prevention we have against the virus.

    Get boosted: If you are 18 years old or older and received your COVID-19 vaccine at least two months ago (Johnson & Johnson), or five months ago (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna), you are now eligible for a booster shot. For 12 to 17 year olds who received the Pfizer vaccine, the booster shot has also been approved.

    Wear a mask: Properly wearing a medical mask while at indoor public locations can reduce the risk of contracting COVID-19

    Practice good hand hygiene: Wash your hands with soap and water frequently, especially after spending time in public spaces. This means rinsing for at least 20 seconds.

    Physical distancing: Stay six feet or more apart from other people in public spaces.
    -- Maryrose R. Laguio-Vila, MD, Internal Medicine, Infectious Disease

    ref: https://hive.rochesterregional.org/2...een-vaccinated
    more propaganda from khalwat

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    more propaganda from khalwat
    Just to be clear... hundreds of cited studies by experts in the field is what you believe is "propaganda", and your ideologically & politically driven belief that is not backed by any evidence is... what, exactly?

    I'm curious, what level of proof would be required for you to believe anything that goes against your narrative?

    Doesn't making medical decisions based on the baseball team you happen to be a fan of seem... rather tenuous at best?

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    Quote Originally Posted by khalwat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    more propaganda from khalwat
    Just to be clear... hundreds of cited studies by experts in the field is what you believe is "propaganda", and your ideologically & politically driven belief that is not backed by any evidence is... what, exactly?

    I'm curious, what level of proof would be required for you to believe anything that goes against your narrative?

    Doesn't making medical decisions based on the baseball team you happen to be a fan of seem... rather tenuous at best?
    if you're pushing it, it's false plain and simple, you've been wrong about everything, you are an idiot stooge

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    Quote Originally Posted by khalwat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    more propaganda from khalwat
    Just to be clear... hundreds of cited studies by experts in the field is what you believe is "propaganda", and your ideologically & politically driven belief that is not backed by any evidence is... what, exactly?

    I'm curious, what level of proof would be required for you to believe anything that goes against your narrative?

    Doesn't making medical decisions based on the baseball team you happen to be a fan of seem... rather tenuous at best?
    Nobody has to prove shit Khalwat. You wanna keep wearing the dumb mask then go for it. I really don't give 2 shits what your studies say. Not anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    if you're pushing it, it's false plain and simple, you've been wrong about everything, you are an idiot stooge
    Can you provide evidence that the 141 studies and papers cited in that article are false, and wrong?

    I don't feel personally invested in this at all. I'm basing my opinions on the evidence and conclusions of people who have spent their lives on virology and communicable diseases.

    I believe that these people, and more importantly the collective consensus of these people, know far more than I do, and far more than anyone else on this forum.

    If the scientific consensus changes, so too will my opinions. Can you say the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by country978 View Post

    Nobody has to prove shit Khalwat. You wanna keep wearing the dumb mask then go for it. I really don't give 2 shits what your studies say. Not anymore.
    Well, there it is. If you're going to simply dismiss what experts around the world conclude after spending their lives studying a subject, there's nothing further to be said. There is no amount of evidence that will change your mind.

    Which is unfortunate, but it is what it is.

    However, yes, you do have to "prove shit". If you're going to claim that the collective scientific consensus is wrong then the onus is very much on you to prove your assertions.

    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khalwat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by country978 View Post

    Nobody has to prove shit Khalwat. You wanna keep wearing the dumb mask then go for it. I really don't give 2 shits what your studies say. Not anymore.
    Well, there it is. If you're going to simply dismiss what experts around the world conclude after spending their lives studying a subject, there's nothing further to be said. There is no amount of evidence that will change your mind.

    Which is unfortunate, but it is what it is.

    However, yes, you do have to "prove shit". If you're going to claim that the collective scientific consensus is wrong then the onus is very much on you to prove your assertions.

    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
    It is unfortunate. But you lost me when the Chicago teacher's union shut down one of the biggest districts in the country while other unions are clamoring for the same thing. I am done with it all. Everyone has an agenda. Sometimes even those conducting the studies have an agenda. The United Federation of Teachers has control over the Dept. of Education. Too much corruption and too many lies.

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    The Mikki interview begins at 0:35:49 in the episode posted above.

    Here's the approximate timestamps of the topics we covered with him:

    0:42:41: How did you run up your bankroll, and how long did it take?
    0:52:08: Why promote yourself publicly if winning so much?
    0:55:42: Are you done with high stakes Vegas gaming at this point?
    1:03:06: Which casinos are you kicked from, and which were for being able to beat them?
    1:25:19: Why do you have a gambling coach if you're so good?
    1:28:32: Mike V. from your Instagram video says $150k of his is missing after he gave it to you - what gives?
    1:36:10: Is Kendall Williams of the Dodgers in financial trouble?
    1:39:48: Are the girls who are constantly blowing up your phone actually hookers?
    1:43:10: Why did you only show one casino's results to Spencer in that video with him?
    1:48:09: Can you please explain your pharmacies a bit more?
    2:01:02: Why are people staking you if you have so much money?
    2:10:34: Have you ever lost at any casinos overall?
    2:14:01: Can you show me your winning strategy if I sign an NDA?
    2:19:55: Mikki asks me if I feel he's been fully transparent and answered all my questions

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    What time was money laundering?

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    Man that fucking interview was tough to get through. Can't remember the last time I wanted to reach into my phone to punch someone in the face like I did this guy. I understand you were trying to be nice but at some point you need to call the guy out for being the condescending prick dbag he was. You don't talk to people like that period. Also the guy is 100% living in a made up world. Pure delusional la la land. Wish you didn't bring up the women part because at close to 50 years old you really shouldn't even give a fuck if he's banging hags or whether or not he's paying. You've seen the guy, we're not exactly talking Brad Pitt here. Guy couldn't get laid without paying if his life depended on it. My favorite part was when he said he lost 8 million then an hour later won 9 million. I know a lot of rich people. Nobody throws out numbers like that if they really had that kind of money. I suspect you were hoping he would tell you his secrets, even with a ND agreement, because if it were a miracle and they actually worked you'd be able to use it to your own advantage maybe on a smaller scale. Just my two cents but that guy is pos loser.

     
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    Imagine telling another (straight) man that you have great dick.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooh View Post
    Man that fucking interview was tough to get through. Can't remember the last time I wanted to reach into my phone to punch someone in the face like I did this guy. I understand you were trying to be nice but at some point you need to call the guy out for being the condescending prick dbag he was. You don't talk to people like that period. Also the guy is 100% living in a made up world. Pure delusional la la land. Wish you didn't bring up the women part because at close to 50 years old you really shouldn't even give a fuck if he's banging hags or whether or not he's paying. You've seen the guy, we're not exactly talking Brad Pitt here. Guy couldn't get laid without paying if his life depended on it. My favorite part was when he said he lost 8 million then an hour later won 9 million. I know a lot of rich people. Nobody throws out numbers like that if they really had that kind of money. I suspect you were hoping he would tell you his secrets, even with a ND agreement, because if it were a miracle and they actually worked you'd be able to use it to your own advantage maybe on a smaller scale. Just my two cents but that guy is pos loser.
    This whole post nails it.

    Mikki came across as a super defensive, delusional narcissist. With Spencer he seemed at least a little bit likable but he was a colossal prick in the Druff interview. And that's probably because Druff actually asked intelligent questions that Mikki wasn't equipped to answer.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shrink View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pooh View Post
    Man that fucking interview was tough to get through. Can't remember the last time I wanted to reach into my phone to punch someone in the face like I did this guy. I understand you were trying to be nice but at some point you need to call the guy out for being the condescending prick dbag he was. You don't talk to people like that period. Also the guy is 100% living in a made up world. Pure delusional la la land. Wish you didn't bring up the women part because at close to 50 years old you really shouldn't even give a fuck if he's banging hags or whether or not he's paying. You've seen the guy, we're not exactly talking Brad Pitt here. Guy couldn't get laid without paying if his life depended on it. My favorite part was when he said he lost 8 million then an hour later won 9 million. I know a lot of rich people. Nobody throws out numbers like that if they really had that kind of money. I suspect you were hoping he would tell you his secrets, even with a ND agreement, because if it were a miracle and they actually worked you'd be able to use it to your own advantage maybe on a smaller scale. Just my two cents but that guy is pos loser.
    This whole post nails it.

    Mikki came across as a super defensive, delusional narcissist. With Spencer he seemed at least a little bit likable but he was a colossal prick in the Druff interview. And that's probably because Druff actually asked intelligent questions that Mikki wasn't equipped to answer.
    With Spencer he had this super impressionable young dweeb. Show the guy a suite with a pornstar in it and he'd be eating out of his hands and Mikki knew it. I'm not saying this guy doesn't have any money but you scam someone out of a couple hundred K I'd assume you can live a pretty baller life at least for a while. At one point he said "in my Wallstreet career" before explaining his pharmacy scheme. I wish Druff asked him about said wallstreet career because it didn't seem like the guy had any formal education because he talks like he lives in the hood and without an education you aren't working wallstreet period. The pharmacy thing seems better when he was talking about it with Spencer. Almost sounded believable. This bs he was spouting to Druff was more like a marketing drop shipping thing where he got leads for other companies so no way the guy would own 350 different phamacies if that were the case. Guy's a fucking schmuck and I'm glad I'm not him.

     
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    Spencer has been churning out a lot of content since that second Mikki video. He wants to bury that thing as deep as possible. I want to give the guy a little break for being naive, but I don’t like the way he handled this at all.

    Spencer has a pinned comment in the second video that says he “may have been duped”. Nothing but crickets since then. That’s just not good enough. Considering the second video is almost a fucking endorsement of Mikki. To the point where Mikki doesn’t even have to splice Spencer’s word out of context, when he made his own video on Instagram essentially having Spencer retract his initial video.

    The Cosmopolitan is beautiful hotel & the suites there are very nice, but that’s just no excuse for the response video. If Mikki is being somewhat honest, he spent an extended amount of time with Spencer. Mikki worked him over good. Mikki knew he wasn’t going to work over Druff, so he’s basically doing all he could to control his anger and “flex” as much as possible. Mostly about his dick. I really hope we never hear about Mikki’s dick again.

    I’ll try to find the clip, but I have seen Mikki start to talk about private “Baccarat” games. Blizerian did this the right way and Mikki did it the wrong way. I don’t think Blizerian made his roll playing poker but it is impossible to disprove. Mikki is claiming to do something that we know is impossible barring one of the luckiest runs in the history of -EV gambling. He should of done his fucking homework.

    There is also a conflict here because high stakes poker pros and poker livestreams want Mikki around. He is a huge fish with a shitload of money to burn. He did himself a big disservice the way he handled his interview with Druff. But Spencer did him a huge service by leaving up the second video and not posting a proper retraction.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by khalwat View Post
    This bullet point is a misrepresentation (though to be fair, I haven't heard the actual podcast yet).

    If both parties are wearing a cloth mask, it doubles the safe contact time, and so they continue to be effective for casual contact (out and about in stores, etc.)

    Secondly, the article this is from states that this specifically applied only to the new highly infection omicron variant.

    ref: https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/...-stop-covid-19

    So an accurate statement would be:

    - It's now being acknowledged that specifically for the omicron variant, cloth masks are mostly useless for long-term exposure of > 30 minutes of contact

    Also any attempt to retroactively apply what we know about this new omicron strain to past incarnations of COVID-19 is intellectually disingenuous, and flys in the face of a mountain of studies, and the overwhelming consensus of experts around the world:

    Conclusion
    Our review of the literature offers evidence in favor of widespread mask use as source control to reduce community transmission: Nonmedical masks use materials that obstruct particles of the necessary size; people are most infectious in the initial period postinfection, where it is common to have few or no symptoms (45, 46, 141); nonmedical masks have been effective in reducing transmission of respiratory viruses; and places and time periods where mask usage is required or widespread have shown substantially lower community transmission.

    The available evidence suggests that near-universal adoption of nonmedical masks when out in public, in combination with complementary public health measures, could successfully reduce Re to below 1, thereby reducing community spread if such measures are sustained. Economic analysis suggests that mask wearing mandates could add 1 trillion dollars to the US GDP (32, 34).
    ref: https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118#sec-22

    If you have evidence to refute the conclusions of the group of experts at the National Academy of Sciences, and the 141 studies & papers that they cite as references on the effectiveness of masks, but all means, present it.

    What I do agree with you is that we clearly need to treat each strain of the virus as its own unique thing, and adjust our behavior based on the unique characteristics of each strain.

    If we acknowledge that, by inference, it is also incorrect to then apply what we know about the current omicron strain to previous incarnations of the virus.

    The advice from experts continues to be consistent:

    What we can do

    When it comes to understanding the spread of COVID-19 and vaccination, Dr. Laguio-Vila suggests reorienting our expectations about how to approach both the virus and the vaccine.

    “There was a great hope that this vaccine would be a silver bullet,” Dr. Laguio-Vila said. “But now, I think we need to readjust our expectations based on what we are learning. For us to expect zero infections when half of the globe is vaccinated, there is a hubris in that. This is a humbling virus that we are learning to prevent and evade using science. We need to evolve our understanding as much as the virus evolves.”

    As we work to keep our minds open, there are steps we can continue to take to ensure we are as well protected as we can be against COVID-19.

    Get vaccinated: COVID-19 vaccines are available at local pharmacies, doctor’s offices, and other locations in many of our communities. This is proving to be the best form of prevention we have against the virus.

    Get boosted: If you are 18 years old or older and received your COVID-19 vaccine at least two months ago (Johnson & Johnson), or five months ago (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna), you are now eligible for a booster shot. For 12 to 17 year olds who received the Pfizer vaccine, the booster shot has also been approved.

    Wear a mask: Properly wearing a medical mask while at indoor public locations can reduce the risk of contracting COVID-19

    Practice good hand hygiene: Wash your hands with soap and water frequently, especially after spending time in public spaces. This means rinsing for at least 20 seconds.

    Physical distancing: Stay six feet or more apart from other people in public spaces.
    -- Maryrose R. Laguio-Vila, MD, Internal Medicine, Infectious Disease

    ref: https://hive.rochesterregional.org/2...een-vaccinated
    I've only been back here for a week and my God you are the most insufferable delusional person on this board. Holy fuck who brainwashed you.

     
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