NASCAR continues to forget who it’s fan base in.

[The Boz]

https://www.nascar.com/news-media/20...p-with-nascar/

From banning the Rebel flag to embracing BLM to this move, they keep trying to get Woke. While 90% of their fan base is whites from the South. Not exactly issues they agree with NASCAR on.

Seems like a bad business plan to embrace things your fans don’t care about.

[Kalam]

https://www.nascar.com/news-media/20...p-with-nascar/

From banning the Rebel flag to embracing BLM to this move, they keep trying to get Woke. While 90% of their fan base is whites from the South. Not exactly issues they agree with NASCAR on.

Seems like a bad business plan to embrace things your fans don’t care about.

Well, getting cancelled by media and big tech would be a disaster. So they have to walk a tightrope where they try not to alienate too many fans while also staying on point with the progressive party establishment line.

It’s obviously easier for the nba where the fan base is more woke.

[tgull]

15 years ago I could have named 20 Nascar drivers, now I could name 3 if that. The 'sport' was highly successful when it was regionalized to the South and it's focus to rednecks and casual race fans. When it tried to increase its audience it worked for a couple years and the novelty wore off. I have been to two Nascar races in my life. 15 years ago the place was packed and there was a buzz in the stands. Three years ago I went and it was half empty and looking around half the fans were searching shit on their phone, myself included.

The big problem for the sport is the fan base under the age of 30 is probably .001%. The funny thing is the whole expanding the fan base has totally backfired since those people are against carbon emissions. Nascar is going the way of Men's Tennis, you'll watch the Daytona 500 like people watch the US Open or Wimbledon and ignore it the rest of the year.

[The Boz]

https://nypost.com/2022/01/06/nascar...r-sponsorship/

Meanwhile they ban the Let’s Go Brandon sponsorship from a shit coin company. But it was OK to run a BLM car. As Tgull said, they have watched their support drop in the past 20 years by alienating fans, too late to turn back now it seems.

[limitles]

This is your problem. If you like the sport it's still the same left turn it's always been.

Realize, you don't control anything. Take your ball and go home

[splitthis]

This is your problem. If you like the sport it's still the same left turn it's always been.

Realize, you don't control anything. Take your ball and go home

You are wrong, the masses together either putting their money and time towards or removing same does have the control.

The show Arthur was a staple, then they pushed the gay shit on kids and people quit watching, buying the books, toys ect and it was snuffed out.

There is power in numbers.

[limitles]

This is your problem. If you like the sport it's still the same left turn it's always been.

Realize, you don't control anything. Take your ball and go home

You are wrong, the masses together either putting their money and time towards or removing same does have the control.

The show Arthur was a staple, then they pushed the gay shit on kids and people quit watching, buying the books, toys ect and it was snuffed out.

There is power in numbers.

The masses are controlling in some places more than others. You and many here want the "good ole days" back. You're not going to get it back. You're behind the times can can't grapple with it.

Change is the only constant

[Crowe Diddly]

Nascar has been steadily declining I'm popularity since 2006, well before any of the bullshit this thread claims to be responsible for the decline ever happened

[tgull]

Nascar has been steadily declining I'm popularity since 2006, well before any of the bullshit this thread claims to be responsible for the decline ever happened

Nascar expanded in the early 2000s to the entire country and peaked around 2005 and signed a couple big TV contracts. Then people realized this was about driving in a circle for 3 hours and the 'sport' outside the deep south cratered. Nascar was never going to become national, it is about as regionalized as badminton and ping pong is to Asian countries. Nascar would be smart to admit its a deep south 'sport' and just cater to that spectator rather than experimenting to blue states, its never going to work there. You don't see the NFL fucking around in the Middle East or India. Stay in your lane.

[Dan Druff]

NASCAR is making the mistake of overly fearing social media.

If your customer base is woke, then your company has to do the woke dance. So if you're Ben n Jerry's, Starbucks, Whole Foods, or any other business frequented by the type of people who would boycott you if Twitter libs bash you, then you need to make some concessions.

However, if you either have a conservative customer base or a highly politically diverse customer base, then you're better off ignoring the bullshit and keep doing things as you were before.

Did Chik-Fil-A suffer when the wokes tried to say they hated gays? No, they had nothing to be ashamed of (the company had a history of hiring gay people and treating them well), so they stood their ground. Very few people actually boycotted them, while conservatives started going there more as a show of solidarity. The controversy actually helped them.

Did Goya suffer when the CEO came out as pro-Trump? Again, no. The number of libs boycotting them was small, and the number of additional customers they picked up from conservatives were higher. Again, this helped. (The CEO was a bit too outspoken later on, though, but that's a different matter.)

Did Trader Joe's suffer because they weren't allowing people to wear BLM pins at work, and firing those who disobeyed? Again, no. They had a sound policy (no political pins on work uniforms), and they stuck to it. Again, they did just fine.

The problem with capitulating to SJWs is that nothing you do will ever be enough. Once you demonstrate that they control you, the demands will be endless, and they will turn on you if you refuse at any point.

NASCAR needs to realize that they will be just fine if they tell the SJWs to eat shit, and in fact they'll probably see an uptick in interest if they seem to be siding with conservatives.

When a company or organization takes a stand against SJWs and woke social media, I like them better, not worse. That's the way almost all conservatives feel. I don't care if Brian Stelter gets on CNN and whines about them.

[limitles]

NASCAR is making the mistake of overly fearing social media.

If your customer base is woke, then your company has to do the woke dance. So if you're Ben n Jerry's, Starbucks, Whole Foods, or any other business frequented by the type of people who would boycott you if Twitter libs bash you, then you need to make some concessions.

However, if you either have a conservative customer base or a highly politically diverse customer base, then you're better off ignoring the bullshit and keep doing things as you were before.

Did Chik-Fil-A suffer when the wokes tried to say they hated gays? No, they had nothing to be ashamed of (the company had a history of hiring gay people and treating them well), so they stood their ground. Very few people actually boycotted them, while conservatives started going there more as a show of solidarity. The controversy actually helped them.




Did Goya suffer when the CEO came out as pro-Trump? Again, no. The number of libs boycotting them was small, and the number of additional customers they picked up from conservatives were higher. Again, this helped. (The CEO was a bit too outspoken later on, though, but that's a different matter.)

Did Trader Joe's suffer because they weren't allowing people to wear BLM pins at work, and firing those who disobeyed? Again, no. They had a sound policy (no political pins on work uniforms), and they stuck to it. Again, they did just fine.

The problem with capitulating to SJWs is that nothing you do will ever be enough. Once you demonstrate that they control you, the demands will be endless, and they will turn on you if you refuse at any point.

NASCAR needs to realize that they will be just fine if they tell the SJWs to eat shit, and in fact they'll probably see an uptick in interest if they seem to be siding with conservatives.

When a company or organization takes a stand against SJWs and woke social media, I like them better, not worse. That's the way almost all conservatives feel. I don't care if Brian Stelter gets on CNN and whines about them.

You're missing something important. Be it shoes or Nascar you better have customers (you're a republican?) or your days are numbered. As far as I know, this sjw gang hasn't affected the sport one iota unless upsetting some biggots counts. If there are not enough non bigots to keep the sport alive it should fade away naturally

[Texter]

Indy car racing…talk about going in the shitter.

When I was a kid everyone watched the Indy 500, and they showed it on prime time tv.

Now I’ll watch the last 20 laps…maybe.

[jsearles22]

NASCAR is making the mistake of overly fearing social media.

If your customer base is woke, then your company has to do the woke dance. So if you're Ben n Jerry's, Starbucks, Whole Foods, or any other business frequented by the type of people who would boycott you if Twitter libs bash you, then you need to make some concessions.

However, if you either have a conservative customer base or a highly politically diverse customer base, then you're better off ignoring the bullshit and keep doing things as you were before.

Did Chik-Fil-A suffer when the wokes tried to say they hated gays? No, they had nothing to be ashamed of (the company had a history of hiring gay people and treating them well), so they stood their ground. Very few people actually boycotted them, while conservatives started going there more as a show of solidarity. The controversy actually helped them.

Did Goya suffer when the CEO came out as pro-Trump? Again, no. The number of libs boycotting them was small, and the number of additional customers they picked up from conservatives were higher. Again, this helped. (The CEO was a bit too outspoken later on, though, but that's a different matter.)

Did Trader Joe's suffer because they weren't allowing people to wear BLM pins at work, and firing those who disobeyed? Again, no. They had a sound policy (no political pins on work uniforms), and they stuck to it. Again, they did just fine.

The problem with capitulating to SJWs is that nothing you do will ever be enough. Once you demonstrate that they control you, the demands will be endless, and they will turn on you if you refuse at any point.

NASCAR needs to realize that they will be just fine if they tell the SJWs to eat shit, and in fact they'll probably see an uptick in interest if they seem to be siding with conservatives.

When a company or organization takes a stand against SJWs and woke social media, I like them better, not worse. That's the way almost all conservatives feel. I don't care if Brian Stelter gets on CNN and whines about them.

NASCAR is unique in that it is in bed with advertisers more so than any other sport. It’s part of their fabric. And all large companies this day that will pay the millions and millions it costs to front a team are all super woke. Appeasing the sponsors is at least as important if not more so than appeasing the fans in this unique situation.

[Entropy]

In 2007 Nascar going woke was just a prank call, now it's actual policy.

[limitles]

NASCAR is making the mistake of overly fearing social media.

If your customer base is woke, then your company has to do the woke dance. So if you're Ben n Jerry's, Starbucks, Whole Foods, or any other business frequented by the type of people who would boycott you if Twitter libs bash you, then you need to make some concessions.

However, if you either have a conservative customer base or a highly politically diverse customer base, then you're better off ignoring the bullshit and keep doing things as you were before.

Did Chik-Fil-A suffer when the wokes tried to say they hated gays? No, they had nothing to be ashamed of (the company had a history of hiring gay people and treating them well), so they stood their ground. Very few people actually boycotted them, while conservatives started going there more as a show of solidarity. The controversy actually helped them.

Did Goya suffer when the CEO came out as pro-Trump? Again, no. The number of libs boycotting them was small, and the number of additional customers they picked up from conservatives were higher. Again, this helped. (The CEO was a bit too outspoken later on, though, but that's a different matter.)

Did Trader Joe's suffer because they weren't allowing people to wear BLM pins at work, and firing those who disobeyed? Again, no. They had a sound policy (no political pins on work uniforms), and they stuck to it. Again, they did just fine.

The problem with capitulating to SJWs is that nothing you do will ever be enough. Once you demonstrate that they control you, the demands will be endless, and they will turn on you if you refuse at any point.

NASCAR needs to realize that they will be just fine if they tell the SJWs to eat shit, and in fact they'll probably see an uptick in interest if they seem to be siding with conservatives.

When a company or organization takes a stand against SJWs and woke social media, I like them better, not worse. That's the way almost all conservatives feel. I don't care if Brian Stelter gets on CNN and whines about them.

NASCAR is unique in that it is in bed with advertisers more so than any other sport. It’s part of their fabric. And all large companies this day that will pay the millions and millions it costs to front a team are all super woke. Appeasing the sponsors is at least as important if not more so than appeasing the fans in this unique situation.

Advertisers run the show when public viewing is in play. The internet would be a slug without advertising, so no it's not unique. No money no show. If a sport can exist on hillbilly money alone great, but it would not be televised

[limitles]

NASCAR is unique in that it is in bed with advertisers more so than any other sport. It’s part of their fabric. And all large companies this day that will pay the millions and millions it costs to front a team are all super woke. Appeasing the sponsors is at least as important if not more so than appeasing the fans in this unique situation.

Advertisers run the show when public viewing is in play. The internet would be a slug without advertising, so no it's not unique. No money no show. If a sport can exist on hillbilly money alone great, but it would not be televised

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jsearles22: You clearly don’t understand NASCAR

You clearly don't understand advertising. But go ahead and lay out the complexities of driving around an oval track