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    Hey guys it’s all fine just don’t take any rake off the table and the Feds will leave you alone.
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    #1 charge a membership fee (easy money)
    #2 charge the degens a hourly fee to pay ( totally not rake btw)

    Dougs 1st day on the floor
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaccaratDegen View Post
    Hey guys it’s all fine just don’t take any rake off the table and the Feds will leave you alone.
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    #1 charge a membership fee (easy money)
    #2 charge the degens a hourly fee to pay ( totally not rake btw)
    You pay an escort for their time. The screwing is simply a fortuitous consequence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BaccaratDegen View Post
    Hey guys it’s all fine just don’t take any rake off the table and the Feds will leave you alone.
    Rules
    #1 charge a membership fee (easy money)
    #2 charge the degens a hourly fee to pay ( totally not rake btw)
    You pay an escort for their time. The screwing is simply a fortuitous consequence.
    https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...rstars-in-2003

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    In addition to all the tournaments and meet up games, I wouldn’t be surprised if they do a daily high limit livestream, similar to “Hustler Live” and “Live at the Bike”. With some work, I think they could get a couple hundred thousand subscribers on YouTube and potentially draw in the big names. The best part about being an “owner” is you can put yourself in the “softest” games with guys like Mikki, Lucky,Krish, (All fish from Hustler Livestream) and that dude that left Hustler Live to go to the Lakers game and hit Rondos hand. Shoot, even if you don’t make a dime as an owner being able to place yourself at that table is priceless.

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    Let’s see when this changes to higher prices is better. (Secret rake) more rake is better for dougs pocket
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    $10/hr table fee seems reasonable. its about $90 an hour per table. $25 an hour goes to the dealers alone. plus you got security, the brush, managers, property taxes, utilities.. i dont know, doesnt seem outrageous. commerce charges what, $36 an hour per player above 10/20? something like that?

    i could definitely see them doubling that $10 number for higher stakes games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Glad to see the return of longtime-absent PFAers FNdonkey and NaturalBornHustler.

    I met FNdonkey about 15 years ago, and he was a really nice guy.


    Anyway, I don't think the Polk/Neeme/Owen thing is going to make an impact on the way Texas views its cardroom situation. The state is very aware of what is going on, and just can't decide what to do. There's a strong anti-gambling contingent in the state which would freak out at any effort to legalize real cardrooms in Texas, and there is a strong pro-freedom contingent which would freak out if a clampdown occurred.

    However, the way it stands now, both sides are unhappy with this weird middle ground. It's also bad for the players, as there's no regulatory body overseeing these games, so you have zero recourse if you get screwed in some way. The incident at Johnny Chan's 88 Social (where they ran out of money and just closed the doors, with like a million bucks of uncashed chips) was a good example of the risk the players take.
    Strangely enough I've never really left, I read the site most every day. I don't contribute much these days I guess. I still play cards multiple days a week, but find myself with less and less to say all the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaccaratDegen View Post
    Let’s see when this changes to higher prices is better. (Secret rake) more rake is better for dougs pocket
    Doug is going to giveaway 10,000 free hours of playing (I mean socializing) if the Cowboys win the Super Bowl in a few weeks. Guy is like Santa but with a faux-hawk instead of the beard.

     
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    LFG boys jail all them youtubers for coming to god country to make money at the door charging people membership fee plus $10 an hour to “socialize”.

    1st Dallas next Doug (I charge you hourly to socialize) Polk. Them Texans are waiting to jail that city boy.
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    If this ruling becomes a trend, paired with the drop in crypto, I have a feeling we might start to see some “retired” poker players find a sudden interest in poker again out of necessity. Also it seems much of the poker ecosystem had moved to Texas as the games were good and so were the taxes. I won’t pretend to know which way crypto is going, but I’d hate this ruling with almost a full year of politicians looking to pander to the religious leading up to midterms.

     
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    Doug aka soon to be in the Pokie for charging my granny 10$ and hour to “socialize” is a crime in god country.
    We need some good ole good to play them youtubers a visit.

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    Neeme said they had 30 tables going last night 8-10 players a table?
    10$ an hour to socialize 2400$-3k an hour in socializing fees (take)
    Don’t forget the membership fee that’s an easy 20k day for the club

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaccaratDegen View Post
    Neeme said they had 30 tables going last night 8-10 players a table?
    10$ an hour to socialize 2400$-3k an hour in socializing fees (take)
    Don’t forget the membership fee that’s an easy 20k day for the club

    in fairness, thats about $8k a day for the dealers alone. cleaning staff, management, security, probably another 3-4k minimum there. im sure theres a handful of C level employees that are earning lower six figs a year, so another 3-5k, conservatively, to them.

    state licensing fees, utilities, property taxes... 20k a day gets eaten up pretty fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    Neeme said they had 30 tables going last night 8-10 players a table?
    10$ an hour to socialize 2400$-3k an hour in socializing fees (take)
    Don’t forget the membership fee that’s an easy 20k day for the club

    in fairness, thats about $8k a day for the dealers alone. cleaning staff, management, security, probably another 3-4k minimum there. im sure theres a handful of C level employees that are earning lower six figs a year, so another 3-5k, conservatively, to them.

    state licensing fees, utilities, property taxes... 20k a day gets eaten up pretty fast.

    Poker dealers make 16$ an hour on the books in Texas.
    Doug paying someone 100k LOL it’s a gym with tables where ppl socialize. Unarmed security 15$ an hour if armed 200$ and hour they would pay a company.

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    Damn youtubers will get sent up the river for all this private socialize in god country.
    Johnny law is on the dumper of them city slicking youtubers. Ted Cruz to the rescue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaccaratDegen View Post
    Damn youtubers will get sent up the river for all this private socialize in god country.
    Johnny law is on the dumper of them city slicking youtubers. Ted Cruz to the rescue.
    Bible-belters LOVE their “religious freedom” to interfere in the private business of others. #HypocriticalRightwingers

     
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    Seems to me like socializing is done with the mouth not dem chips boy. 34 tables to the max 10$ an hour
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    Somewhat recently there were some rooms in Kansas that got shut down as well. The only legal game in Southern Kansas was the Kansas star casino (a boyd gaming property.) Most of the bigger action revolved around Brandon Stephens. He has played and final tabled a million dollar buy in WSOP event ,and he comes from a long line of car dealers. There was a room that popped up called Nillas (allin backwards). Brandon was rumored to be financing it but I have no proof of this. They were arrogant enough to put a billboard right outside Kansas star. They ended up getting raided, lots of dealers not going to be able to get a gaming license do to gaming related crimes on their record etc. Now Kansas star has actually shut their room down (covid), and there's no real action in the area other than private games.

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    Poker – “But poker is a game of skill, not chance!”

    Texas hasn’t reached this conclusion yet. So with these card rooms here it may be 'toe-in the line' to some extent I think. And also for the past decade ive lived in Florida where Pari-mutual gambling along with the Seminole Indian Tribe they run gaming in Florida, and there is within is legal arms. Texas clearly functions differently, and i can see how its not a bad demographic to have some Degen Live action, id hit stop in if passing through Texas, Louisiana was the closes i ever got.

    Also Texas by population I think is second largest, and also huge as is Florida very very in many ways similar States

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