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    Sounds legit. Druff is ready to invest all his money in this venture. Please Mikki give him a call.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    Sounds legit. Druff is ready to invest all his money in this venture. Please Mikki give him a call.



    It's a virtual lock that not only would Mikki's pharma have asked Druff what meds he's already taking, by that Druff would be feeling really good for the foreseeable future as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    @BWB agree 100%. Despite being designed as a place holder until they figured out what they were going to do with Edge and terrible booking, The Brood was Over. They have one of the best entrances of not just the altitude era, but top 10 ever. I meant to say this is how Mikki would like to portray his entrance into the high limit Bacc room.
    And the nod to the Brood with Edge's new hybrid entrance is also very cool as well now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeD View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    Sounds legit. Druff is ready to invest all his money in this venture. Please Mikki give him a call.



    It's a virtual lock that not only would Mikki's pharma have asked Druff what meds he's already taking, by that Druff would be feeling really good for the foreseeable future as well.
    On side note Im going to have to seriously look at pain management options. Been having some bad issues last couple weeks and its affecting my ability to sleep. (For those who dont know Ive already had 2 significant back surgeries about 10-11 yrs ago, have a cyst on my upper spinal cord at the top of my back ot half way between my shoulder blades plus it now appears the level below my fusion is definitely going bad). I was on narcs low dose but really didnt want to continue on oxys for life (5mgs total of 4 a day) so I just weaned off them and been popping tylenol and ibu rotationally for a few yrs pretty consistantly along with taking tumeric for anti inflammatory. I finally broke down and took a couple of Vicodan my wife had which she filled but never took on an ER visit because the pain just wouldnt let up last night.. Woke up this morning.. Yeah you guessed it slept well but also woke up in essentially no pain (Split can understand as basically my pain level went from a chronic 3-4 even on a good day and as high as a 7 at times especially since Covid last year I was at like a 1 this morning mild if any).

    I did take some tyl and ibu today just because pain was starting to creep up. It points that likely the IBU isnt doing much because if the narcs worked its in fact neurological nerve related and not inflammation pain causing a massive majority. Secondly I now have to decide if I go back to Pain Mgt MD and do opoids again low dose to try and make life tolerable which at time it just isnt or I go the other route and finally break down and get my MMJ card and try edibles to see if itll work for me. (Before anybody even remotely suggests just lighting up or vaping with the lung damage from Covid thats a double Do not Pass Go point from the scar tissue and loss of lung function due to the Covid damage last year being as bad as it was). So Im gonna debate and weigh my options but even surgery can only do so much to relieve these issues Im afraid maybe some of the acute pain in the upper back but my low back is just going to shit and while the good news the level going bad which I was warned about cant progress as its the last lumbar at the sacral joint space which is naturally fused in all humans anyway the nerve damage I already had where my fusion is makes pain free unlikely.

    Sorry to derail the thread if I did.. Not my intention.

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    ftpjesus, I know this is off topic but I wanted to share this with you. Are you currently taking Gabapentin (Neurontin)? It’s NOT an opiate, does wonders for nerve pain. I take it myself. For some people Gabapentin works better than opiates for nerve pain.

    As far as the opiate route, if you decide you want to take an opiate as well but don’t want to take Oxy’s, you can give Tramadol a try. Not as effective as Vicodin or Oxycodone, but not as habit forming either. It’s about the least strongest in the opiate class.

    For sure take Gabapentin if your not already on it. In my opinion it’s a wonder drug. Check the reviews.

    Druff, you can remove this since it’s off topic.
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    No idea if Mikki was doing anything like this, but I couldn't resist posting a couple of pharmacy scams that have happened in the Detroit Metro area.

    Southfield doctor, patient recruiter charged in $17 million prescription drug scheme
    https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/...n-drug-scheme/

    10 people accused in massive $46M co-pay fraud scheme involving 26 pharmacies around Metro Detroit
    https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/...metro-detroit/

    How the scheme worked
    Officials said the 10 people listed above knowingly conspired together in a scheme to defraud co-pay assistance programs by submitting claims for fake prescriptions. They submitted claims totaling at least $46 million between January 2014 and November 2019, according to court records.

    They made money for themselves by submitting requests for reimbursement from pharmaceutical manufacturers for medication that wasn’t prescribed by doctors or dispensed by pharmacists, court records show.

    Authorities said the people involved hid the false claims and diverted proceeds for their own personal benefit and the benefit of their co-conspirators

     
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    Druff should just tell people he's got a winning system that can't lose. Flash around some money, show off a fancy suite, a bunch of expensive watches and some hot girls. Druff would be able to scam a few million easy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    ftpjesus, I know this is off topic but I wanted to share this with you. Are you currently taking Gabapentin (Neurontin)? It’s NOT an opiate, does wonders for nerve pain. I take it myself. For some people Gabapentin works better than opiates for nerve pain.

    As far as the opiate route, if you decide you want to take an opiate as well but don’t want to take Oxy’s, you can give Tramadol a try. Not as effective as Vicodin or Oxycodone, but not as habit forming either. It’s about the least strongest in the opiate class.

    For sure take Gabapentin if your not already on it. In my opinion it’s a wonder drug. Check the reviews.

    Druff, you can remove this since it’s off topic.
    Actually I was on Neurontin and it just never really worked for me but it sure as hell caused a lot of swelling in my lower legs which it has been known to do especially in higher doses.

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    Not sure when Spencer added this in the description of his 2nd Mikki video, but I definitely don’t remember it being there. Maybe it was added around the time Spencer had “Unpinned” his comment on this same video regarding the possibility that he was duped by Mikki.


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    My guess is these 2 are no longer “cool” with one another. Just the 2 statements, “PLEASE DO NOT STAKE HIM FOR GAMBLING” in caps and “It’s likely he’s down”.

    It’s my guess Mikki was on cloud 9 after Spencer’s 2nd video came out essentially “Validating him” in the eyes of gullible marks. As soon as Spencer pinned the comment about possibly getting “duped” by Mikki, I imagine that is where Mikki turned on Spence.

    The sad part is most folks don’t read the description, and some out of the 600k that viewed it will still get scammed by Mickey. Free commercial by a reputable guy (Spencer). Ultimately I think it did more good than bad for Mikki. Time will tell where Mikki pops up next.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    Not sure when Spencer added this in the description of his 2nd Mikki video, but I definitely don’t remember it being there. Maybe it was added around the time Spencer had “Unpinned” his comment on this same video regarding the possibility that he was dupped by Mikki.
    @PV I am pretty sure that is exactly what happened. Again, I really think Spencer does a good job, but this is really weak. A creator pinning a comment is going to be exponentially more visible to most viewers than anything written in the description. It’s not even close. Less than 1% of viewers will read that disclaimer.

    This is either self serving, a favor to Mikki or a blend of both. I don’t see any other explanation. Either way, he took any mention of him shitting the bed here. It’s strange to me. He doesn’t seem like the type who can’t admit to a mistake, but he certainly wiped any mention of him doing so out of that video.

     
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    If I was Spencer, I would put out another video (just himself), and admit the mistakes he made. I would start by saying how I was thrown off when Mikki wanted to show me in person what he does, and how this surprised him and threw him off his game as normally the subjects of the videos immediately respond by throwing insults, threats of lawsuits, how he got it all wrong Yada, Yada, Yada.

    I would explain how Spencer let his guard down , by the welcoming nature Mikki presented at that time. I would tell the viewers that I am still relatively new at this and must realize that I am still dealing with potential scammers in my videos .

    I would explain the mistakes that were made. I would explain the biggest mistake was only seeing 1 win/loss statement and being caught up in the moment of what was likely a high 6 figure to low 7 figure win.

    Just as Druff challenged Mikki, all his win/loss statements need to be shown, preferably at the casino in person to cut down on the likely hood of any shadiness.

    Then after seeing all win/loss statements for a given period of time a decision can be made.

    I would also state that going forward, to insure the integrity of his videos, he has assembled a group of 3 or 4 people that know gambling/scams ect. And all videos will be previewed by this group of people prior to them being uploaded on YouTube to insure the viewer gets the best and most accurate information regarding the subject of the video.







    Spencer has said before how he does everything himself. I think it’s time he hires an assistant as he said he will make $500k this year off Youtube alone. He can average just 1 more video per month to pay the assistants wage. That way he can pass along all the tedious task to the assistant.
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    Seems kind of odd to me that some one who is sober would have a XanaX bar tattooed on themselves... <shrug>
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      PositiveVariance: Scamming is stressfull on the dude. But yeah, of all things to get a tattoo of, a xanex bar lol. It almost looks like a loaf of bread it's such bad art work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aayjay View Post
    Seems kind of odd to me that some one who is sober would have a XanaX bar tattooed on themselves... <shrug>

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    Also in the picture of Mikki above, it looks like he cut his hair off? Unless it's an old picture.

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    sorry guys. I haven't read through all this...

    Is there a link to the interview with him and druff?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by crudebar View Post
    sorry guys. I haven't read through all this...

    Is there a link to the interview with him and druff?

    It starts at the 34:49 mark

    In post #2, where it says "Here is the show", you can click on the file below that ans scroll to 34:49

    https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...kki-s-Millions

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    Quote Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    Also in the picture of Mikki above, it looks like he cut his hair off? Unless it's an old picture.
    I thought it was a very recent photo but I am not sure. he posts old stuff constantly so hard to know what's new or old.

    Also if that's what he isnt covering up I can only imagine what horror-show tattoos he had on his left arm/ hands to completely black them out , looks terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by crudebar View Post
    sorry guys. I haven't read through all this...

    Is there a link to the interview with him and druff?

    It starts at the 34:49 mark

    In post #2, where it says "Here is the show", you can click on the file below that ans scroll to 34:49

    https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...kki-s-Millions

    Druff has some damn good interviewing skills. Kudos to him and kudos to him for staying posed. The interviewee goes off into secret gambling societies, how dare you call me a liar(alleged) and take interest in my life---even though the guy lives for attention.

    Gambling, even if you had an advantage, can be stressful and hard. These idiots, who don't even have an advantage, who pretend its all about counting your money and fucking women is laughable. Good for this guy with taking his trust fund and turning himself into a minor celebrity. But of course when you pretend to be something you aren't, people are going to call you out.

    It's always fascinating when a liar gets upset because you refuse to believe their lies.

    edit: The talking in circles is also fascinating. He "doesn't owe you shit" yet he comes on your show and prattles on endlessly. Then when you ask him to simply show you proof he goes "maybe"....as we all know, he said that to not look bad(in the moment) and the proof will never come. Then all the old scammer tricks of god and talking down to druff as not being worthy. Obviously pulling one over on Spencer got this guy's ego even larger so he thought "what the hell i can convince this guy also"

    If i am coming on Druff's show and if i am obviously legit; first thing i do is send over all my win/loss statements to him and then we can sit down and have a chat. This is where the talking in circles happens. Mentions how his feelings are hurt and he wants to prove he is legit; yet when asked to do something that proves he is legit(documentation) which take very little time; he would rather prattle on for close to 2 hours about fucking women, his life style, god, and being better then the person who is interviewing him. Just LOL crap. Once again props to Druff for just laughing it off and continuing.

    Tell Spencer to watch Tinder Swindler on Netflix. He also had the private plane and girls...go see how that ended up.

    Spencer fell under the spell of inclusion. Which can obviously be powerful.
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    Got around to listening to the end of that. Good grief.

    Is there anything I can say to make you believe me? Dan: yeah the proof I already stated(paraphrasing). Funny how much that simple request irritated him the whole interview. He really wanted to just charm you. Dan just kept it simple; with simple and direct questions and Mike couldn't handle it.

    Seriously. If i am going to go on a radio show with Jimmy(I think we both know he probably got ur name wrong on purpose) I am providing the documented proof or just not going on the show at all. Mike thought he could charm his was through like he did Spencer.

    Dude. I have a secret system. I won't explain it, because it's secret. Well, its kinda a secret because i always hint about it all over social media and anyone that will ask me to come on radio shows or podcasts. I make millions but i am almost done with it. It's very secret and only me and the underground secret gambling society no about it. No, i obviously can't show you win/loss. Why do you even want to see that? That's my business.

    Give me a break. So this guy has a system, in which obviously casino personal have seen---I suppose it's so advanced that the casino personal can't even break it down(after seeing it put into practice numerous times) and change in the game whatever he is exploiting. And not only does this give him a small edge but a gigantic edge, according to him. And this was the dude to figure it out. Not all the brilliant minds in gambling and numerous other fields. It was this dude.(lol)

    Sure. This guy has found a way to beat baccarat. Not only at one casino(perhaps due to some sort of cheating) but at every single casino he visits as long as they let him play long enough(lol).

    The guy is probably a good entertainer and the way he gambles has to be entertaining to watch. Math is never exciting, especially when everyone is basically playing the same way these days. But this guy isn't making money and will soon be broke. Math is boring, but math also never lies.

    edit: this interview reminded me a lot of Uri Gellar in the 70s trying to convince people he wasn't a magician/illusionist but truly has super natural powers. Reminds me of the Johnny Carson interview. Like Mike, Gellar failed miserably went put to the test. But like these scammers Gellar actually got more popular after that show and failing. Here is the link

    And like Dan, Carson was very respectful even though both knew the person they were interviewing was full of shit.
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    Mikki has ghosted me. Looks like he won't be showing me those casino win/loss statements.

    I'm not at all surprised. A small part of me hoped he was serious about doing it, and we'd meet up and he'd do what we agreed. However, after sending me a long (and unsolicited) rambling diatribe in PM shortly after appearing on the show, he has stopped responding to me.

    Oh well. I'm glad I at least got that interview with him. That was the most important thing. Anything else springing from that would have just been gravy.

    Glad you enjoyed it, crudebar.

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