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    First of all the guy's REAL name is Michael Meiterman and he lives in Florida.

    I think he has a business in West Palm Beach.

    He is a complete fraud.
    Same as Vegas Dave.

    Michael is just a degenerate gambler who likes to trash hotel rooms in Vegas.

    He has a ton of cash inherited from his very wealthy family and he will eventually lose it all in Las Vegas casinos.

    You guys are a bunch of suckers.





     
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    He is just a rebellious problem child.

    A wannabe musican, gambler and fucking moron.



     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    First of all the guy's REAL name is Michael Meiterman and he lives in Florida.

    I think he has a business in West Palm Beach.

    He is a complete fraud.
    Same as Vegas Dave.

    Michael is just a degenerate gambler who likes to trash hotel rooms in Vegas.

    He has a ton of cash inherited from his very wealthy family and he will eventually lose it all in Las Vegas casinos.

    You guys are a bunch of suckers.




    Agree 100%. Seems some here are willing to consider he is making money constantly with a -EV “system”. It’s no different than what MDawg claims to do and what Chrissy does. But we all say Chrissy is always losing his ass, is broke, etc, which we know he is. But this clown is getting some respect for no logical reason.

    He may be a better scammer and certainly a better marketer than Chrissy, but he is still working a hustle and certainly isn’t winning constantly.

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    Okay, since I still don't know what Mikki's deal is, I don't want to make any allegations about his situation, other than stating that I don't believe he's beating -EV games long term or even medium term.

    However, let's discuss fictitious generic gambler John Whaledoe, who bets huge money in Vegas casinos, and makes it very public on social media. What are the possible explanations for what's really going on with John?


    1) Scamming or keeping in action: With money starting to run short (or at least short by the standards of the level he likes to bet), John creates an image as a nosebleed-stakes gambler who is crushing the casinos, hoping that will encourage others to "invest" in continued casino gambling. This is actually an old MLM trick, where salespeople would present a lavish lifestyle in order to sell "opportunities" to people. In other words, John is a much higher stakes version of Christopher Mitchell.

    2) Money laundering: Casinos are a frequent tool for money laundering. By playing both sides of games like roulette and baccarat (using a second person to do so), a fake "win" can be established, and the money can come out clean on the other end, with a fairly clear expected loss in the process. This, of course, can be done without a social media backstory, but creating such a backstory could allow John's true scheme to fly under the radar amidst all the noise.

    3) Celebrity: Dan Bilzerian built a brand, playing the part of high stakes poker player and alpha-male playboy. It worked. He developed a huge Instagram following, and is now semi-famous. John could be attempting to be the next Dan Bilzerian.

    4) Rich guy who likes attention: Nobody likes feeling like a sucker. It's hard to get positive attention for megastakes casino gambling unless you also accompany it with stories of actually being an overall winner. John might just be a rich degenerate, either self-made, family money, or both, likes the attention he gets for it, but needs the attention to be positive.

    5) Access to celebrities: Remmeber Rob Gorodetsky, the young fraudster who pretended to be a sportsbetting genius, when in reality he was just using other people's money to fund a degenerate lifestyle? But there was more to this. Gorodetsky actually befriended celebrities and athletes, who bought into his lie, and wanted to tail the bets of this "genius". Without this illegal scheme, there is no way any celebrities or athletes would have talked to Gorodetsky. Thus, the fake "winning gambler" persona was partially to open doors to these types of relationships. This could be John's story, too.

    6) Creating other opportunities: It might be worth it for John to lose a certain amount of money, in order to get eyeballs onto his "success", which would then open the door for other business opportunties.

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    UH OH

    Remember "Mike V" from the original video with that Dodgers pitcher?

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    https://instagram.com/p/CVwA1peA5QH/




    Well, he's not very happy. He's on Reddit claiming Mikki "took 150k from him", and was asked to "keep quiet" during the second Spencer video. He also created 3 websites to discuss "experiences with staking" with Mikki, but there's no real content there yet.

    Reddit thread (main post just has the links to the website): https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comme...rience_if_you/

    "Took 150k from me": https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comme...eb2x&context=3

    "Asked to keep quiet": https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comme...9ai/?context=3

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    Here is Mike V's Instagram, in case you care. Doesn't have any Mikki stuff on it: https://www.instagram.com/m1kev/


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    Wow, he must of had a huge amount of trust in Mikki. It is one thing to get suckered into giving a guy money to play a -EV game for you. It’s an entirely different scenario to not stand there and watch him play your money and be right there to collect afterwards.


    Oh, and LOL at the fact Mikki has a gambling “Coach”.

    That one video he made with Logan Paul, he had to defer to his coach wether to play poker or Baccarat. Hey Mikki if the coaching position ever becomes available, I’m interested haha
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    Something that gambling scammers rely on, specifically sports tout scammers is winning the first time they gambler for someone. This is primarily because the type of people that get suckered into these things don’t understand variance. They believe the scammer if they win the first game/session. The scammer says, “see, I told you I am legit”. In Mike V’s situation it appears Mikki won the first 2 sessions. Mike probably had total faith in him at that point and that is when Mikki “lost” his 150k or ran with it.

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    As expected, Mikki made his own video with highlights of Spencer's, which is now being used as a marketing tool for himself.

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    https://instagram.com/tv/CYHhpQQJUpq/


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    I haven't seen anything from Mikki in the last few days. One of the last posts I saw was him promoting a New Year's Eve party. Maybe either the well went dry, his gig is up or he got arrested. Knowing his lying self, he might end up saying that all the girls that he fucked at the party wore him out for a few days lol

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    I think this is he really likes us.
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    Good news, guys.

    Mikki contacted me and said he's willing to do an interview "right now".

    I had prepared zero questions, as I wasn't ready, but obviously I wasn't going to let the opportunity to talk to him get away, so I did it. I came up with questions on the fly, and hopefully I did a good job.

    Talked to him almost 2 hours. Was on the phone.

    It will be featured on the next PokerFraudAlert Radio.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Good news, guys.

    Mikki contacted me and said he's willing to do an interview "right now".

    I had prepared zero questions, as I wasn't ready, but obviously I wasn't going to let the opportunity to talk to him get away, so I did it. I came up with questions on the fly, and hopefully I did a good job.

    Talked to him almost 2 hours. Was on the phone.

    It will be featured on the next PokerFraudAlert Radio.

    Druff, you need to get a Patreon like these YouTube creators have, so you can “release videos early” to your Patrons! Haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Good news, guys.

    Mikki contacted me and said he's willing to do an interview "right now".

    I had prepared zero questions, as I wasn't ready, but obviously I wasn't going to let the opportunity to talk to him get away, so I did it. I came up with questions on the fly, and hopefully I did a good job.

    Talked to him almost 2 hours. Was on the phone.

    It will be featured on the next PokerFraudAlert Radio.
    Druff may now be the only other guy in the world with that $50 Million Dollar algorithm on how to beat Baccarat. He may be printing at the Bacc tables as we speak. Bankrupting casinos KK Ichikawa style.

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    In all seriousness great get! Looking forward to hearing the interview.

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    Feel bad for the baseball guy. He is in triple a a stone throw away from the majors. Learned an important lesson about a fool and his money. Least Mikey doesn't look to be taking average of the elderly.

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    Hey everyone always remember to never max bet.
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    Boy I wish that pic dropped before my interview with him.

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    After seeing Mikki not playing max credits on a Video Poker machine, we can make it fairly certain he is not any type of advantage player. Video Poker is a game that is beatable long term, in which I have never attempted to exploit it, and even I know you have to play max credits. Usually the game is not beatable “Off the top”. Playing optimal strategy on most pay tables you will still be at a loss. You get into the positive territory from a combination of benefits such as Cash back, Slot club points, bonuses, Free Play, Mailers, ect.

    So for those who don’t know, all the payouts are usually the same (they just adjust Percentage wise) from 1 to 5 coins EXCEPT the ROYAL FLUSH. This may not seem like much since the Royal Flush is an infrequent event, but long term this makes a HUGE difference.

    The machine Mikki was playing paid:
    1 credit = 250 credits or $6,250
    2 credits = 500 credits or $12,500
    3 credits = 750 credits or $18,750
    4 credits = 1000 credits or $25,000
    5 credits = 4000 credits or $100,000


    An Advantage Player, which Mikki claims to be, is not going to make such an egregious mistake. If you are playing a game that has a .5% (half percent) house edge, by not playing 5 credits (max credits) you are giving the house about another 2%!!! I’m sure someone like MickeyCrimm can break down exactly what it is. To go from .5% house advantage to 2.5% house advantage is massive!

    This is so far beyond a rookie mistake. To be fair to Mikki, he never claimed to be Advantage Video Poker Player, but he should know this, especially if he is playing with SOMEONE ELSES Money.

    Once again, Video Poker is not my game, but if your going to play it - PLAY IT CORRECTLY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    After seeing Mikki not playing max credits on a Video Poker machine, we can make it fairly certain he is not any type of advantage player. Video Poker is a game that is beatable long term, in which I have never attempted to exploit it, and even I know you have to play max credits. Usually the game is not beatable “Off the top”. Playing optimal strategy on most pay tables you will still be at a loss. You get into the positive territory from a combination of benefits such as Cash back, Slot club points, bonuses, Free Play, Mailers, ect.

    So for those who don’t know, all the payouts are usually the same (they just adjust Percentage wise) from 1 to 5 coins EXCEPT the ROYAL FLUSH. This may not seem like much since the Royal Flush is an infrequent event, but long term this makes a HUGE difference.

    The machine Mikki was playing paid:
    1 credit = 250 credits or $6,250
    2 credits = 500 credits or $12,500
    3 credits = 750 credits or $18,750
    4 credits = 1000 credits or $25,000
    5 credits = 4000 credits or $100,000


    An Advantage Player, which Mikki claims to be, is not going to make such an egregious mistake. If you are playing a game that has a .5% (half percent) house edge, by not playing 5 credits (max credits) you are giving the house about another 2%!!! I’m sure someone like MickeyCrimm can break down exactly what it is. To go from .5% house advantage to 2.5% house advantage is massive!

    This is so far beyond a rookie mistake. To be fair to Mikki, he never claimed to be Advantage Video Poker Player, but he should know this, especially if he is playing with SOMEONE ELSES Money.

    Once again, Video Poker is not my game, but if your going to play it - PLAY IT CORRECTLY!
    How do we get Chrissy to play this, and tell us that "optimal strategy is to bet 3 credits, because its more than 1, but less than 5, so you get more bang for your buck when you win and you have leverage over the casino because you have a big bankroll"

     
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    He is so cool you losers would even understand.
    Always remember never max bet on a slot machine/VP.
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