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    Mikki has reach LFG

    Our new degen hero is with ..
    Ivey , Lil baby , Ryan fast hands and the YT guy Paul something.
    Many rappers appear on Mikki page. Very entertaining.
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    Mikki probably doing the old Justin Wade Smith "trust me I have neck tattoos: Give me $10k today and you'll get $100k next week" deal.
    When faced with a difficult decision, ask yourself "What would Micon do?", then do the opposite.

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    I know people who own pharmacies in nyc and Mikki is full of it.
    He sounds goofy. Unless he finds people fresh out of school and he is the money behind the license that’s the best I’ll give him.

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    And the opening shots have been fired!



    Maybe Mikki heard Chrissy’s thoughts on descendants of Hebrew folks???

     
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      zealanddonk: solid video, more please

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    Obviously Mikki is not beating the game of Baccarat long term...

    I have a theory about his “300 Pharmacies”...
    When Spencer questions Mikki on it, Mikki says there are about “12 different types of pharmacies”... It’s clarified that Mikki is not talking about large traditions type pharmacies where we take our prescriptions and get our meds. So it’s not like a CVS, Riteaid, or mom and pop pharmacy. It’s Totally different. Mikki then brings up “Compound Pharmacies” but not specifically saying this is the type of pharmacy that he had. As soon as he said “Compound Pharmacy” it all made sense. I read an article a few years back about these Compound pharmacies and how some of them skate the law to legally sell drugs. I’m still searching for that article, they laid it out very well. A Compound Pharmacist can make “custom” medications. They can also duplicate patented medications that are commercially available when there is a national shortage.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if he paid 15k to get licensed for the first pharmacy, hired 1 pharmacists. Then meet the absolute minimum requirements to be in business, which under the law may not even include a physical business location. The license may be just on paper without a physical location. Then duplicate that process 299 times. In reality he could be working out of a 200 sf office, with a safe, desk, compounding precursors, and employing 1 pharmacist all while being licensed “On paper” for 300 units (It May be a little more work than this, but you get the idea).

    My guess is he found a method that skates the law, likely dispensing pain pills and then just duplicate that process 299 more times through his other pharmacies to legally dispense an insane volume of pain pills or other meds in demand. The additional pharmacies are probably just on paper. His timing lined up with the opiate epidemic and the extreme demand for pain pills. No prescription needed. It’s got to be something close to this.

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    Most chemist can produce drugs such as Oxycodone, Hydrocodone, Fentenyl. It’s really not a secret how they are made. As a compound pharmacist all you have to do is change the chemical makeup slightly in order to dispense. I think the public would be outraged if they knew what a compound pharmacist could legally do. Read up on Compound Pharmacies, I think you will agree.

    This kinda reminds me of Pain Clinics in Florida around 2010, where your average Joe was opening pain clinics just to dispense opiates (Primarly Oxycodone). They would hire Doctors fresh out of school or doctors with disciplinary action on their license since they couldn’t get employment elsewhere. They got the name “Pill Mills”. Some of these places would see over 1,000 people per day. Cash only.

     
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      zealanddonk: Any day now Chrissy will claim his "consulting business" is about setting up Pharmacies like this
      
      Dan Druff: that's a great theory
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    Our hero is in full force
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    It looks like Mikki’s Sweat Shirt and Beanie say “ SECTION EIGHT” lol

    The way he is gambling, his brand name may just become reality for him!!!

     
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      BaccaratDegen: Sweatshirt approved

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    I am going to reach out to Mikki and see if he wants to come on Poker Fraud Alert Radio.

    If anything, it will at least be entertaining. If he agrees, I will come up with a list of questions for him beforehand, and in fact you guys can contribute to that.

    I won't be confrontational, because I want to treat all guests respectfully, as they are voluntarily coming on. However, it won't be a softball interview, and I will have good questions prepared. It's possible he will ignore me or decline, but I'll give it a shot. The guy seems pretty accessible.

     
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    What are the chances Mikki is MDAWG from WOV?

    They both have the same story of beating bacarrat long term.

    Both names start with "M".
    Both travel from Vegas to S. Cal.
    Both came from affluent families.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    What are the chances Mikki is MDAWG from WOV?

    They both have the same story of beating bacarrat long term.

    Both names start with "M".
    Both travel from Vegas to S. Cal.
    Both came from affluent families.
    I know who MDawg (probably) is. Not the same guy.

     
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      BedWetterBettor: You mean M Dawg isn’t our boy Chrissy MITCHELL??? Mitch Dawg and MitchellGale are not one in the same??? Lies I say!?! Anyway, good luck with Mikki who is definitely not MDawg from Wizard of Vegas!
      
      PROUDBOY MAGA 2024: ^^ Mikki and Bloat Mitchell have zero chance in hell of being MDawg.^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedWetterBettor View Post
    And the opening shots have been fired!



    Maybe Mikki heard Chrissy’s thoughts on descendants of Hebrew folks???
    Another quality video.

    And at least Mikki doesnt sound retarded when talking, unlike CM.
    When faced with a difficult decision, ask yourself "What would Micon do?", then do the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryback_feed_me_more View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BedWetterBettor View Post
    Folks, it appears there is a new King of Baccarat and Roulette!!!



    Move over Chrissy, here’s Mikki!
    You obviously didnt see the guy on the poker stream lately from Hustler clearly.. Dude was crushing souls hes far from a phony.. I dont know about his pit games but Poker the dude is legit..

    This is a joke right?

    Good delete
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryback_feed_me_more View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BedWetterBettor View Post
    Folks, it appears there is a new King of Baccarat and Roulette!!!



    Move over Chrissy, here’s Mikki!
    You obviously didnt see the guy on the poker stream lately from Hustler clearly.. Dude was crushing souls hes far from a phony.. I dont know about his pit games but Poker the dude is legit..
    With all due respect I have to disagree. Mikki went all In with 5 high on a 170k pot. By pure luck an Ace hit the board to throw his opponet off. The Ace hits the board 1 in 13 times. I believe Any other card and Mikki would have lost that hand, since his opponet likely calls in that spot. You play out that hand 100 times and I bet Mikki looses at least 80 out of 100.
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    I gotta admit, attending a Mikki NYE "banger" actually sounds like fun.

    Or at least it would be fun if I were 20 years younger.

    Speaking of which, Mikki actually is about 20 years younger than me. He's 30. Just in case anyone is curious.

     
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      BaccaratDegen: 35 I’ll say

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    I believe Mikki’s top 2 goals (besides “Smashing”) are:

    1. Expand his social media reach.

    2. Find suckers to stake him.

    .... And Spencer just put him in the driver seat to do both of these.

    Today’s video has 154k views in the first 14 hours. This may video may break Spencer’s record for most number of views in a 24 hr period. By comparison Chrissy’s video has been up for 4 weeks and currently has 139K views. At the 24 hour mark Mikki’s video is on pace for 200k views!

    Spencer unintentionally gave Mikki instant credibility in many peoples minds. I’m sure he’s going to get feedback from people and will come to regret this.

    Since Spencer has a great reputation and can usually stiff out a fraud/scammer many folks will think Mikki is the real deal and give him money. I actually think Mikki is a very likable guy.

    I know Spencer would never do a “paid advertisement piece”, but if I had to put a price tag on this - I would say it’s worth $200k-$400k for Mikki. Mikki got a guy to “Back his winning claims”. I know there is no way Spencer took any money to make this video, but no question Mikki would have shelled out $200k to do so. Seeing the amount of views this video is getting, I have a strong feeling Mikki is going to work his charm on Spence and Spencer will be influenced more by Mikki’s likability vs. his -EV gambling strategies.

    Kind of a side note: Baccarat is one of the table games where it is not terribly uncommon to stay up on the house for an extended period of time. Mainly due to its low house edge and all bets paying out equal amounts, compared to a game like blackjack where you have double downs, splits, BJ’s at 3:2 or 6:5.

    With Baccarat the house is only winning 1 more hand than you per hundred hands. You 49. Casino 51. (Ignoring pushes) Now out of 1,000 hands, if you can turn 10 pushes into wins you are now playing a break even game. If you can turn 5 losses into wins you are playing a break even game. (You get your original wager plus amount won with losses to a win. A push to a win - You already have your initial bet).

    For example 49 wins and 51 losses. Let’s use $1 per hand to make the math simple...

    $49 won and $51 lost (2 units between bets)
    Let’s now assume you change just 1 single hand from a loss to a win. It now looks like:
    $50 won and $50 lost (by changing one single loss into a win, when there were previously 2 units between wins and losses, a loss changed over to a win makes it even) It’s the same theory if you are betting $100 per hand in Blackjack and you win but the dealer takes your money. They go back and check the cameras and determine you actually did win. They now owe you $200 (Original wager + winnings).

    Let’s say after 1,000 hands a player is down: 495 wins to 505 loses (Ignoring ties). If just 5 of the loses are turned to wins, the player is now even. If 6 loses are turned to wins the player is now up. As you can see it’s a very few amount of hands in the game of Bacarrat that creates the house edge. So over a small sample size, it’s not terribly uncommon to be up. It’s very possible Mikki has ran well in 2020 at MLIFE Properties, which is the amount that Spencer saw.

     
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    There is something that is pretty strange in Spencer’s pinned comment. When he says that the number Mikki presented on the casino statement showed a large profit and that you “can believe him or not”…well I don’t think any reasonable critique of Spencer’s video accused him of lying about the number he saw. The point was that the number didn’t prove anything except for the fact that Mikki won big on those properties in 2020.

    I didn’t see many (if any) comments calling Spencer a liar. Maybe there is nothing to it and Spencer just felt attacked. But I did find it interesting he presented the criticism differently from what I saw.

     
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      PositiveVariance: I found this strange as well, since no one has ever questioned Spencer’s credibility.

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    If I was Spence, I would take both videos down at this point.


    He has already made a ton of money on both. Which, I know he values his reputation much more than the money.


    After I took the videos down, I would contact Mikki, and tell him that you really need more info to make a determination to his credibility.

    You need firm evidence. That the two of you will personally go to Vegas casinos and pull up his players accounts. This way, the info can’t be faked or cherry picked.

    His other claims can be proven with similar, more in-depth methods.
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    There is a pscyhological aspect to meeting someone in person compared to talking to them online.

    If you meet a guy in person, and he seems incredibly nice, laid back, and non-confrontational, it's hard to keep up the zeal to expose them, especially if the person never did anything to you. I have no doubt that Mikki treated Spencer really well, and by the end, Spencer had a hard time making a follow-up video in his usual sarcastic style. Instead, he wanted to believe the guy.

    The other problem with having a channel like Spencer's and then bashing someone after meeting with them is that you lose the ability to get others to do the same in the future. Had he spent the day with Mikki and did a piece continuing to imply he's a fraud, other subjects of his videos would refuse to meet with him in the future. After the big "get" of actually meeting up with someone he talked about previously, he probably felt some subconscious pressure not to make Mikki reegret spending time with him.

    This isn't a bsah on Spencer, btw. I go through the same thing when I have guests on PFA Radio, of whom I'm critical. i realize they don't have to be here, so I try not to make them feel like they're being interrogated or doubted. At the same time, I don't want to do a softball or allow them to use my show to establish false credibility, so what I generally do is write up some tough-but-fair questions, ask them, and then let them respond. I usually leave it to the listener to make conclusions at that point.

    In short, I think meeting with Mikki, while great for his channel, put Spence in a bad spot he didn't anticipate.

     
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    I'll touch on this on the next radio show, but I also want to say that Mikki absolutely has some experience in the pharmacy industry. As he said, it's not traditional retail pharmacies, but more on the fringes. But he clearly knew a lot about it, and rattled off a lot of details without stopping to think (incluidng at one point giving an industry acronym). Not sure how much money he made with all that, and where the truth lies with his ownership of these licenses he talks about, but 100% he had some kind of connection to that industry previously.

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