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    I can't believe how awful the Spencer video is.

    What the fuck did I watch.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    Folks I think in this video we may have heard the lie of all lies!
    Honest the 'lie of all lies' was already how mikki says he has developed a way to beat baccarat without cheating, and he uses it openly with full casino acceptance /not being cut off by casinos.

    He basically saying he figured out a new math ... lol... interesting tell me more....
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    Quote Originally Posted by aayjay View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    Folks I think in this video we may have heard the lie of all lies!
    Honest the 'lie of all lies' was already how mikki says he has developed a way to beat baccarat without cheating, and he uses it openly with full casino acceptance /not being cut off by casinos.

    He basically saying he figured out a new math ... lol... interesting tell me more....
    If Phil Ivey doesnt know how to do all the above (think the edge sorting scandel where he actually got the casinos to let him set the play rules and then they sued the shit out of him afterwards) then Mikki sure as shit doesnt. Does Mikki think hes Phil Ivey?? ROFLMAO

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    Quote Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    Folks I think in this video we may have heard the lie of all lies!

    Start listening at the 6 minute mark. Mikki claims to be the TOURNAMENT CHIP LEADER from hours 1 to 3.

    There were 5,832 entries! And Mikki lead the tournament for 3 hours???

    I understand Spencer doesn’t know Poker that well (either do I) but he needed someone he trusts that knows poker to proof watch this video before he released it?

    He also claims he just missed the “Money Bubble”. Event #66 - Michael Meiterman

    Is there anyway possible to verify his claim of being chip leader? Also, I do realize this had multiple starting days. Even if he meant chip leader for his starting day, it’s still an outrageous claim.
    If ya go back into PokerNews reports theres ZERO indication Mikki played the tournament. He doesnt show up anywhere in any chip counts even as busted. https://www.pokernews.com/tours/wsop...day1/chips.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftpjesus View Post
    If ya go back into PokerNews reports theres ZERO indication Mikki played the tournament. He doesn't show up anywhere in any chip counts even as busted. https://www.pokernews.com/tours/wsop...day1/chips.htm
    I believe Mikki shows his buyin receipt with seat / table # in the video. I'm not in the right mindset to be able to re-watch it. I need to cleanse my soul first.
    I'm not sure what the options to unregister after that are, but I'm sure a lot of people here can answer.

    How amusing would it be if it was shown he unregistered and took Spencer's $1,000 and blew it on baccarat. Not likely, but who knows with this clown.... these clowns**

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by aayjay View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbodoggins View Post
    Wait! Who said anything about a new video? (Besides aayjay). Isn't this just a pic from the original interview?

    Yep. I was completely wrong on this. Apologies...

     
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    It appears his Grandfather past away in 2018...
    (His Grandfather was a wealthy real estate developer)

    https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries...ry?id=11320127


    My guess is that he is a recipient of a trust fund set up by his late Grandfather. He likely gets monthly or quarterly payments. This would explain him having large sums of cash then apparently being broke, like when he had to take $150 off the table during the Hustler Live Stream. It wouldn’t surprise me if it comes out that he borrows money from people for short periods of time.

    Finding gambling right after becoming a trust fund recipient is about the worst thing you can get into, second to only drugs. In the comments on one of the threads someone claimed to have went to high school with Mikki. They say he was such a problem in high school that the parents sent him to live with his Grandfather.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    My guess is that he is a recipient of a trust fund set up by his late Grandfather. He likely gets monthly or quarterly payments. This would explain him having large sums of cash then apparently being broke, like when he had to take $150 off the table during the Hustler Live Stream. It wouldn’t surprise me if it comes out that he borrows money from people for short periods of time.
    Great stuff as usual PV.

    Mikki is a good talker and is lazy with his homework. For whatever reason (I’ll never be in the position) the male ego seems to have a major problem simply embracing the fact that they come from money. Mikki is a poor man’s Blizerian in this regard. Females tend to embrace coming from money much easier. There are no studies that I know of, but it seems to me to be the trend.

    Look at the similarities with Blizerian. Both come from money and corruption. If Mikki is not lying about his father, they both have father’s who did time. Both have a clear Napoleonic complex. Both are good talkers and lie their asses off. Both desperately wanted fame to go along with the money. The cherry on top is the countless contradictions they both corner themselves into by not tracking their lies.

    So they both used gambling as a rationalization for their money. The difference is Blizerian picked poker which is beatable. Either the hard way against everyone or by getting into soft private games. Not only is the game beatable but the money isn’t tracked outside tournaments.

    Mikki was a dumb shit and picked Baccarat. Which we know can’t be beat. He still insists it can be but you notice now he’s sort of coming to the realization that presenting himself as a professional poker player is by far the better way to do this. So I would look for him to continue to pivot away slightly from Baccarat.

    Also these guys who run private games & livestreams and the pros who play in them want Mikki in these high stakes games donating. Pros will basically put up with just about anything if they have an edge on someone. A lot more than someone disturbing the pit games and trashing hotel rooms. Casinos need to worry about liability with this guy. But as long as he got the buy in, the high stakes poker community will always find him a seat.

     
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    I just wanted to clarify something when it comes to Mikki & Spencer. Most of us believe that Blizerian is full of shit. But it doesn’t really matter because it is what it is. He’s not a “scammer” in the sense we think of the word. He gets discussed from time to time when he makes news for running a company into the ground or not fulfilling commitments to his contract as a poker ambassador. But I could give two shits about the guy otherwise.

    When it comes to Mikki, you will notice this thread on him started with BWB posting Spencer’s first video, where he is largely showing clips from Mikki’s interview on the No Jumper Podcast. A podcast I don’t listen to and didn’t even know about. Spencer I knew of because of his Steve Steven’s video and then his video on Christopher Mitchell. I’m not a regular viewer of Spencer either.

    I am no moralist and in general don’t care what people like Mikki do as long as they aren’t scamming vulnerable people. I don’t have much sympathy for rich guys who get convinced to let Mikki gamble their money. I assume and hope most can afford it and many eventually learn a costly lesson.

    There came a point in time where Mikki seemed to be soliciting funds to play baccarat from the general public. That I certainly take issue with. However, that was many months ago and it looks like that idea has been scrapped. Mikki seems to mainly pull this stuff with guys who can afford it.

    That being said, I think this thread is important because there is no one on YouTube who has the size and clout to correct the record. The record that has been set by Spencer here. It is doubtful that anyone with a comparable following of 500K subscribers is going to put out a video about just how wrong Spencer is here.

    Mikki is definitely no moron. Befriending Spencer and manipulating him was imperative. He clearly has been working over Spencer for some time now. Actually to Adam of No Jumper’s credit, he gave more pushback on Baccarat not being beatable than Spencer has. Obviously Druff’s interview with Mikki was the most telling by far.

    As I stated in an earlier post Spencer’s last video that was supposed to be about poker tournaments and staking is really horrendous. But in all honesty, it’s probably good for the poker ecosystem. There are going to be some total gullible morons showing up at the poker tables thinking poker is way easier than it is (Just look at the Youtube comments).

    So for me the most intriguing part about Mikki was when I watched a good amount of his interview on No Jumper. It was fascinating to watch someone just talk nonstop nonsense. Once again, I don’t know this guy Adam but he did a decent job under the circumstance. It’s a podcast and Adam I’m sure didn’t know he was just going to be bullshitted for 2 hours.

    I just can’t wrap my head around what Spencer has put out and how any of us can give him one shred of credibility any longer. I guess it really is all about the dough.

     
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    Just seems so coordinated how the Spencer video comes out then suddenly Mikki came out the woodworks posting again on IG. Like I said before, he was dark for a while and now he's posting pics of stacks of chips and money. Just a coincidence... Hmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Nguyen View Post
    Just seems so coordinated how the Spencer video comes out then suddenly Mikki came out the woodworks posting again on IG. Like I said before, he was dark for a while and now he's posting pics of stacks of chips and money. Just a coincidence... Hmm
    Mikki obviously did that intentionally but I don't see anything sinister about it

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    Mikki accidentally confirmed that he's a fish and has no fucking clue how to play these tournaments.

    My analysis is at the 6:31:59 mark (yes, that's over 6.5 hours into the show) in the latest radio show I did: https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...ing-Shortstack

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Mikki accidentally confirmed that he's a fish and has no fucking clue how to play these tournaments.

    My analysis is at the 6:31:59 mark (yes, that's over 6.5 hours into the show) in the latest radio show I did: https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...ing-Shortstack
    You did a good job of picking apart his lol hand histories but don't think you commented on how insane the agreement of 100% stake for 25% profit is. That would not even compute with the mark up police!

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    Quote Originally Posted by band_user View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Mikki accidentally confirmed that he's a fish and has no fucking clue how to play these tournaments.

    My analysis is at the 6:31:59 mark (yes, that's over 6.5 hours into the show) in the latest radio show I did: https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...ing-Shortstack
    You did a good job of picking apart his lol hand histories but don't think you commented on how insane the agreement of 100% stake for 25% profit is. That would not even compute with the mark up police!
    Oops. I let that slip by without even thinking about it, but you're right.

    There may not even have been a stake. It might have been Mikki's money the whole way, and the "stake" was for the video. They never explained why a multi-millionaire like Mikki needs a stake into a $1000 event.

    I'm also not sure if Mikki told these hand histories correctly. It's possible he made himself sound worse than he actually was. He may not have realized that calling off with the TT overpair is much worse when it's big-stack-versus-big-stack than when one or both people have a small or medium stack. He may have been trying to brag about being a big stack in order to make himself look skilled albeit unlucky, and inadvertently had that make him look like a gigantic fish who can't lay down a hand in an obvious spot.

    The "old woman misclick" might have been partially true. It's possible that Mikki raised, the old woman accidentally threw out chips to raise instead of call (and then said so), and the third guy went over on both of them. While I agree that this could be seen as a possible steal attempt on the third guy's part, if you're trying to police this with TT and are committing yourself to go all in on any low board, you're still being reckless unless that third guy is known to be overaggro. The guy had KK so he probably wasn't an aggrofish, and Mikki just read the whole thing incorrectly.

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    Spencer expects people to look to him for advice on avoiding scammers - meanwhile we watched him be completely manipulated by Mikki in his videos, to the point of promoting that he was given the "opportunity" to "invest" $1,000 in Mikki's tournament 100% of the buy in for 25% of the winnings....

    Any amount of digging into Mikki's claims about poker, and his knowledge of the game would raise A LOT of questions.
    Spencer REALLY dropped the ball and doesn't seem to have done any type of due dilligence.

    Instead he seems to have spent his time coming up with cringe "jokes" which he seems to think are clever- maybe its just not my humor.

    Are his videos on other topics this poorly researched?
    Does he just really need a friend?
    Is partnering with Mikki somehow more lucrative than his other videos?

    The lack of substance here is astounding.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    If Mikki is not lying about his father, they both have father’s who did time.
    Both mikkis father & uncle did time for white collar crimes , actually kinda interesting story involving NJ corruption up into dome NJ ny political elites. I posted it earlier in this thread, o you can google it's all out there.
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    It appears Mikki played the 10k WSOP Main Event #70
    Busted day #1

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    Quote Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    It appears Mikki played the 10k WSOP Main Event #70
    Busted day #1
    But when he busted the whole room applauded and as he exited the room he heard whispers of excitement, "thank God he's out of this tournament, that man is the sharpest most unlucky player in the world series."

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    Since we're all have a laugh at Christopher Mitchell, Blatant scammer in that thread with how he has us wanting to believe that some fluff piece paid advertorial site, aka TheAmericanReporter, has written a legitimate news article about him (they have not, it is a paid advertorial), I thought it was interesting that Mikki seems to have done employed the same cheap and very dishonest marketing here:


    https://nyweekly.com/business/mikki-...usiness-mogul/


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    LOLOLO at these two. "New York Weekly", huh Mikki?! That's the best you got?

     
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