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    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post

    Yeah, uh, unlike the crow, he killed someone behind the camera.

    Baldwin is a nutjob and I'm guessing he will be charged here.
    Odd take

    Baldwin was brought the gun by armorer, COLD GUN was yelled when handed ot was handed to him. During take, Baldwin aimed the gun at the camera and fired. As the scene called for.

    Tragic for all involved, but the criminal act (of negligence?) seems to have been committed by the professional firearm consultant.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntmissioner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post

    Yeah, uh, unlike the crow, he killed someone behind the camera.

    Baldwin is a nutjob and I'm guessing he will be charged here.
    Odd take

    Baldwin was brought the gun by assistant director, NOT the armorer, COLD GUN was yelled when handed ot was handed to him. During take, Baldwin aimed the gun at the camera and fired. As the scene called for.

    Tragic for all involved, but the criminal act (of negligence?) seems to have been committed by the professional firearm consultant.
    FYP, and itís a big fix, as the armorer is supposed to be one handling such props. But many of the crew had walked off the set about a half hour before in protest over several issues, including lax gun safety practices.
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    Union member replaced the blanks with the real thing to show those scabs whatís what.

    At least thatís what they do in the movies or the 50s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    They must have accidentally swapped this gun with other guns during preparation
    Yeah, Druff … they mixed up this gun with all the other guns on the set loaded with live ammo




    Read the thread for a credible and interesting idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe View Post
    I'm actually a judge and he's probably gonna get the electric chair
    JUDGE ZAP, how is this not a show already?

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    Maybe he thought the lady was a pig like his daughter.


     
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    Ya, it seemed obvious from the start it likely wasnít criminal, but he seemed to be intertwined in ownership of the project, and with rumors of bad safety practices and general low budget shit before this happened, this thing is going to be financially a real hit to all involved with the business end. I donít know about insurance with something like this, but Iím guessing itís dependent on following the proper guidelines. This feels like a decade long civil suit nightmare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Ya, it seemed obvious from the start it likely wasn’t criminal
    How can you make such a statement? Obvious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Ya, it seemed obvious from the start it likely wasn’t criminal
    How can you make such a statement? Obvious?
    I dont know what you mean? I meant I didn’t think he killed someone intentionally. That seemed very unlikely.

    Maybe intentional is the better word than criminal. Lots of things are criminal.

    All of Baldwin’s troubles have been with women and reporters and family.

    He’s a complete hot head.

    I don’t mean he couldn’t get caught up in some legal shit that involved being negligent in some criminal way, and I said I hope he wasn’t fucked up as that’s legal, but he’s ownership here. He probably hired these people.

    Could he get charged with something? Sure, but I mean criminal in terms of doing something intentional that had him dying in jail like Spector or Blake.

    When I first read about it my thought was this might cost him everything possibly, but more from paying off family and the liability rather than he killed some people on purpose. We’ve had a number of celebrities kill people drunk driving and other criminal ways through the years, but few do any real time in jail.

    Had there been some domestic incident with his wife ending up dead at his home and him claiming it was accidental, I’d assume he killed her. That seems consistent with his personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post

    How can you make such a statement? Obvious?
    I dont know what you mean? I meant I didn’t think he killed someone intentionally. That seemed very unlikely.

    Maybe intentional is the better word than criminal. Lots of things are criminal.

    All of Baldwin’s troubles have been with women and reporters and family.

    He’s a complete hot head.

    I don’t mean he couldn’t get caught up in some legal shit that involved being negligent in some criminal way, and I said I hope he wasn’t fucked up as that’s legal, but he’s ownership here. He probably hired these people.

    Could he get charged with something? Sure, but I mean criminal in terms of doing something intentional that had him dying in jail like Spector or Blake.

    When I first read about it my thought was this might cost him everything possibly, but more from paying off family and the liability rather than he killed some people on purpose. We’ve had a number of celebrities kill people drunk driving and other criminal ways through the years, but few do any real time in jail.

    Had there been some domestic incident with his wife ending up dead at his home and him claiming it was accidental, I’d assume he killed her. That seems consistent with his personality.
    Not Baldwin, of course. Baldwin’s gravitational pull is distracting people. Someone on the set. Labor both union and non union is very unhappy. I heard crew members walked off set just prior. Gripes about low pay and rotten hours.

    The presence of live rounds on the set makes zero sense to me. This strikes me as something other than carelessness,

    Admittedly, I haven’t read very much if anything on the story. I will.

    Wish Harry Hollywood would weigh in on this and not Saved By the Bell. The mood in Hollywood and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post

    I dont know what you mean? I meant I didnít think he killed someone intentionally. That seemed very unlikely.

    Maybe intentional is the better word than criminal. Lots of things are criminal.

    All of Baldwinís troubles have been with women and reporters and family.

    Heís a complete hot head.

    I donít mean he couldnít get caught up in some legal shit that involved being negligent in some criminal way, and I said I hope he wasnít fucked up as thatís legal, but heís ownership here. He probably hired these people.

    Could he get charged with something? Sure, but I mean criminal in terms of doing something intentional that had him dying in jail like Spector or Blake.

    When I first read about it my thought was this might cost him everything possibly, but more from paying off family and the liability rather than he killed some people on purpose. Weíve had a number of celebrities kill people drunk driving and other criminal ways through the years, but few do any real time in jail.

    Had there been some domestic incident with his wife ending up dead at his home and him claiming it was accidental, Iíd assume he killed her. That seems consistent with his personality.
    Not Baldwin, of course. Baldwinís gravitational pull is distracting people. Someone on the set. Labor both union and non union is very unhappy. I heard crew members walked off set just prior. Gripes about low pay and rotten hours.

    The presence of live rounds on the set makes zero sense to me. This strikes me as something other than carelessness,

    Admittedly, I havenít read very much if anything on the story. I will.

    Wish Harry Hollywood would weigh in on this and not Saved By the Bell. The mood in Hollywood and all that.
    Thatís our misunderstanding. I read the first page and saw kunts response to gut and made my post.

    I was only referring to Baldwin. Gut had kind of implied Baldwin is nuts and he expected him to be charged. And I was thinking like Kunt where that seemed unlikely to me. Heís nuts, but not that type of nuts.

    I didnít think he lost his his shit and shot some people. It sounds like the set was a mess and it wouldnít shock me if someone did something criminal at all.

    It almost makes more sense that someone did something to sabotage a weapon rather than than getting unlucky right after having a labor dispute where gun safety was one of the issues. That seems more than coincidental. Itís really unlucky if so.

    Someone probably didnít mean for someone to die, but it wouldnít surprise me at all if there was some sabotage that ended tragically.

    As a veteran of organized labor disputes, I saw shit that could have ended up killing people in auto plants. There was garden variety shit like people not putting the soundproofing in car doors that was typical during tense times, but I also saw people not properly installing brakes and letting shit go down the line that could hypothetically have ended up killing someone worst case.

    There were safe guards in place, and shit was double-checked, and the person sabotaging was just trying to cause more down time and repairs. But if you ran into a spot where those guys were also mailing it in, bad things could happen.

    I never saw it get to that level as mgmt was usually aware there were problems and tensions were high; but it made me cringe when guys in certain jobs were sabotaging shit.Iíd think thatís not an area you want to fuck around. There are plenty of other areas to make a point, not there.

    On some small set without a number of safeguards, I can see this being a labor dispute gone tragically wrong.

     
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    Admittedly, my post was made not knowing all the details, I leapt to a few conclusions there. I assumed he flipped out.

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    Supposedly this is all true but i haven't personally verified it. Also there's mention of some people quitting because of gun safety issues.
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    Incredible coincidences ftw.
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    If Baldwin was a rabid Trumptard he might be charged, since he's the opposite he's safe from criminal charges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Honestly pretty shocking that it could even happen that a prop gun would be loaded. They must have accidentally swapped this gun with other guns during preparation, but you'd think there would be a procedure in place to absolutely never let this happen.

    The person killed was a Ukranian immigrant who had slowly moved up in the Hollywood scene, and was killed at age 42. I bet when she left Ukraine for the apparently safer US, getting shot dead by Alec Baldwin wasn't very high on her list of possible dangers here.

    You just never know.

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    I would think Baldwin would face some criminal charge even if its Involuntary Manslaughter. He was the one who after all aimed the and pulled the trigger and killed someone and maimed another. But even moreso, he was the Executive Producer and Union Workers were walking off the set complaining about worker and safety conditions and replaced by scabs. If this is not criminal negligence, then what is?

    Obviously the civil litigation is going to be extreme, I had no idea Baldwin was 68 years old, I figured he was 10 years younger. His golden years are now wrecked, his career is done and while I feel bad for his victims, this could not have happened to a nicer guy. Fuck him, guess no more terrible and unfunny Trump parodies on SNL anymore.

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    New Public Service Message from Baldwin for the Vid Vaccine

    ďJust take the shotĒ

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    The assistant director who handed Baldwin the gun, David Halls, was previously fired for a gun safety fail on another movie set in 2019.

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    I actually hope this [second impeachment] succeeds, because I want Trump put down politically like a sick, 14-year-old dog. ... I don't want him complicating the 2024 primary season. I just want him done.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

  18. #38
    Alec Baldwin lets his antivaccine freak flag fly by interviewing RFK Jr.

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    I knew Druff & PFA would find the above the most salient aspect of this story.

    For you mumbles, this story is a classic case where ďThe Five Rules of StupidityĒ are so perfectly reflected. Enjoy.

    Letís pick one from the list although all apply here.

    Rule 2: The probability a person is stupid is independent of any other characteristics

    Baldwin may be a fine actor and comedian but that has nothing to do with the likelihood he is stupid. Think about the initial press coverage.

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    Yeah, the assistant director and the armorer were clowns. I want to ask you this. I hire an inept lifeguard. Your kid gets in trouble and ends up drowning cause my lifeguard was fascinated by the cloud formations that day. Am I culpable?


    That set was a monumental shit show. The issues were endless and kind of interesting to dig into. I suspect Alec Baldwin might have been aware how it differed from other sets he’s been on in his 40 years in the business. All evidence indicates he’s just stupid.

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