An evidence review of face masks against COVID-19

[dwai]

sir for your own good, *look where you are*.

Is that the point Sonatine? You don't have anything of value to add to a discussion and so you just come in and make it about you, then act as if you're not the one making "where you are" the dumbest place on earth? I realize you used to be somebody here, even a respected and valued person, but since I started reading what you've got to say you've said not one memorable word or added anything of value to a single discussion that I can remember. That's all good with me. I wasn't around when you were a somebody so you're less than nothing to me. But, why turn yourself from something into what you've been recently? I treated you with all the deference and respect of the de facto PFA mayor you seem to have been at some point but now you're just another rude asshole with nothing to say. What gives?

SONATINE IS WASHED UP TRASH

[dwai]

Is that the point Sonatine? You don't have anything of value to add to a discussion and so you just come in and make it about you, then act as if you're not the one making "where you are" the dumbest place on earth? I realize you used to be somebody here, even a respected and valued person, but since I started reading what you've got to say you've said not one memorable word or added anything of value to a single discussion that I can remember. That's all good with me. I wasn't around when you were a somebody so you're less than nothing to me. But, why turn yourself from something into what you've been recently? I treated you with all the deference and respect of the de facto PFA mayor you seem to have been at some point but now you're just another rude asshole with nothing to say. What gives?

You have Pre Boycott Fatboy and Post Boycott Fatboy. Pre boycott version, was on here 100+ hours/week being a pompous ahole dominating nearly every thread with his wise cracks and hollier than thou commie attitude. Post boycott version posting only about 1% of his prior total and is no longer an in house resident. Same smug know it all attitude.

[dwai]

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ROFL

[khalwat]

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Firstly, this is just one person, and not consensus (yet). That said...

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What she's actually recommending is even more strict:

1) everyone wears medical-grade surgical masks

2) everyone gets vaccinated

3) everyone tests themselves before they go out in public.

Do you agree with her stance, Dwai?

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[dwai]

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Firstly, this is just one person, and not consensus (yet). That said...

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What she's actually recommending is even more strict:

1) everyone wears medical-grade surgical masks

2) everyone gets vaccinated

3) everyone tests themselves before they go out in public.

Do you agree with her stance, Dwai?

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[khalwat]

So Dwai, either:

1) You agree with Dr. Leanna Wen that everyone should be vaccinated, wear facemasks, get tested before going out, and that the unvaccinated should no longer be punished due to the actions of those failing to do these things or

2) You once again didn't actually read the source you posted, which directly contradicts what you've been espousing.

Which is it?

[dwai]

So Dwai, either:

1) You agree with Dr. Leanna Wen that everyone should be vaccinated, wear facemasks, get tested before going out, and that the unvaccinated should no longer be punished due to the actions of those failing to do these things or

2) You once again didn't actually read the source you posted, which directly contradicts what you've been espousing.

Which is it?

I AGREE WITH THE CCP PROPAGANDIST

[khalwat]

So Dwai, either:

1) You agree with Dr. Leanna Wen that everyone should be vaccinated, wear facemasks, get tested before going out, and that the unvaccinated should no longer be punished due to the actions of those failing to do these things or

2) You once again didn't actually read the source you posted, which directly contradicts what you've been espousing.

Which is it?

I AGREE WITH THE CCP PROPAGANDIST

Excellent, so you are pro-vaccine, pro-mask wearing, and pro-testing! This is great news, welcome aboard as a responsible citizen in a public health crisis.

[dwai]

I AGREE WITH THE CCP PROPAGANDIST

Excellent, so you are pro-vaccine, pro-mask wearing, and pro-testing! This is great news, welcome aboard as a responsible citizen in a public health crisis.

I AGREE WITH HER THAT MASKS DON'T WORK!

[khalwat]

Welp Druff, you may finally end up being right about masks being performative... at least when it comes to omicron:

Here’s how long different face masks protect you from omicron variant symptoms

A new graphic from The Wall Street Journal offers a clue as to why cloth masks might not stop the omicron variant from spreading.

The graphic — which was shared widely on social media Wednesday — shows how long it takes for someone to get infected with COVID-19 if they’re wearing a certain type of mask and speaking with someone wearing a specific type of mask (or not one at all).

The graphic includes how long it would take for people wearing nothing, cloth masks, surgical masks and N95 masks to be infected by those wearing the same type of mask.
In all, the graphic shows that wearing an N95 mask offers the greatest protection. In fact, someone would be protected for 2.5 hours if they wore N95 masks and were talking to someone without a mask at all.

However, the graphic — which uses data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention — is a clear sign that cloth masks are less effective than before.

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[Dan Druff]

This was probably also true about Delta and original COVID, but due to its lesser contagiousness, and due to the Cult of the Mask (tm) developed on the left, they didn't want to admit it.

Now they're truly worried that the caseload will overload hospitals, so suddenly the "science" is changing -- telling you to wear medical grade masks instead. This allows them to still defend mask wearing (only directing you to better ones), while at the same time being able to blame the change on Omicron.

Notice we didn't have any of these charts during the other COVID variants. Wonder why.

[dwai]

Welp Druff, you may finally end up being right about masks being performative... at least when it comes to omicron:

Here’s how long different face masks protect you from omicron variant symptoms

A new graphic from The Wall Street Journal offers a clue as to why cloth masks might not stop the omicron variant from spreading.

The graphic — which was shared widely on social media Wednesday — shows how long it takes for someone to get infected with COVID-19 if they’re wearing a certain type of mask and speaking with someone wearing a specific type of mask (or not one at all).

The graphic includes how long it would take for people wearing nothing, cloth masks, surgical masks and N95 masks to be infected by those wearing the same type of mask.
In all, the graphic shows that wearing an N95 mask offers the greatest protection. In fact, someone would be protected for 2.5 hours if they wore N95 masks and were talking to someone without a mask at all.

However, the graphic — which uses data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention — is a clear sign that cloth masks are less effective than before.

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rofl of course they never worked.

I bet your dumbass is ordering fucking fitted n95 masks now

good luck getting any normal sane person to wear those all day



khalwat fucking getting owned left and right by propaganda

[country978]

Welp Druff, you may finally end up being right about masks being performative... at least when it comes to omicron:

Here’s how long different face masks protect you from omicron variant symptoms

A new graphic from The Wall Street Journal offers a clue as to why cloth masks might not stop the omicron variant from spreading.

The graphic — which was shared widely on social media Wednesday — shows how long it takes for someone to get infected with COVID-19 if they’re wearing a certain type of mask and speaking with someone wearing a specific type of mask (or not one at all).

The graphic includes how long it would take for people wearing nothing, cloth masks, surgical masks and N95 masks to be infected by those wearing the same type of mask.
In all, the graphic shows that wearing an N95 mask offers the greatest protection. In fact, someone would be protected for 2.5 hours if they wore N95 masks and were talking to someone without a mask at all.

However, the graphic — which uses data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention — is a clear sign that cloth masks are less effective than before.

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So now you think the kids should be able to take them off in school?

[khalwat]

This was probably also true about Delta and original COVID, but due to its lesser contagiousness, and due to the Cult of the Mask (tm) developed on the left, they didn't want to admit it.

Now they're truly worried that the caseload will overload hospitals, so suddenly the "science" is changing -- telling you to wear medical grade masks instead. This allows them to still defend mask wearing (only directing you to better ones), while at the same time being able to blame the change on Omicron.

Notice we didn't have any of these charts during the other COVID variants. Wonder why.

Here's the full article: https://www.wsj.com/articles/cloth-f...84082?mod=e2tw

This was not true about the original and delta variants, that's why in the article they are very specific in stating "no longer be sufficient" and the reason it isn't effective for this highly transmissible variant.

Please note that masking doesn't "do nothing" against omicron -- look at the chart, if both parties are masked, it doubles the safe time of contact.

The problem is, this isn't sufficient for situations where you will be in contact with people for > 30 minutes (like a school setting).

But certainly masking still is beneficial for casual contact when out and about on mass transport, in stores, etc.

[khalwat]

So now you think the kids should be able to take them off in school?

I think it's too early to say what the right course of action is. I'm betting they'll continue to need to wear them until we know more for certain about the potency and long-term effects of omicron.

The reason I think they may continue to require them in schools is that it has been effective against other variants, and that means they may be effective against future variants as well.

I'm very much all for eliminating masking requirements when/how the CDC advises though!

[khalwat]

rofl of course they never worked.

I bet your dumbass is ordering fucking fitted n95 masks now

good luck getting any normal sane person to wear those all day

khalwat fucking getting owned left and right by propaganda

You're demonstratively incorrect. Many studies, which I cited, showed that they did work for the original and delta variants, and this article talks about why that isn't the case for this variant.

I change my mind based on evidence, I don't change evidence based on my mind. Try the same.

[khalwat]

The primary thing that I think Druff nailed in his most recent podcasts on COVID is that each variant has to be treated as a different thing.

COVID is not a monolithic entity that you can lump together; each variant has unique characteristics in terms of transmissibility, potency, lethality, and mode of transmission.

So he's spot-on in saying that we need to re-evaluate what we're doing to combat whatever the current strain is.

But it is intellectually disingenuous to then retroactively apply what works or doesn't work for the omicron variant to the original strain, or delta.

[country978]

So now you think the kids should be able to take them off in school?

I think it's too early to say what the right course of action is. I'm betting they'll continue to need to wear them until we know more for certain about the potency and long-term effects of omicron.

The reason I think they may continue to require them in schools is that it has been effective against other variants, and that means they may be effective against future variants as well.

I'm very much all for eliminating masking requirements when/how the CDC advises though!

You need the CDC to tell you what you seem to already know? Seems to me the only reason the kids should continue to be masked in school is because the all powerful rulers of parents and children (the unions) say so. The CDC is going to tailor their recommendations based on what the teacher unions tell them to do. That is if past history is any indication

[limitles]

I think it's too early to say what the right course of action is. I'm betting they'll continue to need to wear them until we know more for certain about the potency and long-term effects of omicron.

The reason I think they may continue to require them in schools is that it has been effective against other variants, and that means they may be effective against future variants as well.

I'm very much all for eliminating masking requirements when/how the CDC advises though!

You need the CDC to tell you what you seem to already know? Seems to me the only reason the kids should continue to be masked in school is because the all powerful rulers of parents and children (the unions) say so. The CDC is going to tailor their recommendations based on what the teacher unions tell them to do. That is if past history is any indication

You just march in there and dump your kid off without a mask. No one can tell you what's what cause you read the N.Y. Post. Go ahead and make a stink, the kid is already behind the 8 ball with a parent like you.

[dwai]

So now you think the kids should be able to take them off in school?

I think it's too early to say what the right course of action is. I'm betting they'll continue to need to wear them until we know more for certain about the potency and long-term effects of omicron.

The reason I think they may continue to require them in schools is that it has been effective against other variants, and that means they may be effective against future variants as well.

I'm very much all for eliminating masking requirements when/how the CDC advises though!

my god all you stupid doomer faggots read from the exact same script, get off your high horse you know nothing