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    Why I Am Leaving Goldman Sachs

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/op...man-sachs.html

    TODAY is my last day at Goldman Sachs. After almost 12 years at the firm — first as a summer intern while at Stanford, then in New York for 10 years, and now in London — I believe I have worked here long enough to understand the trajectory of its culture, its people and its identity. And I can honestly say that the environment now is as toxic and destructive as I have ever seen it.

    To put the problem in the simplest terms, the interests of the client continue to be sidelined in the way the firm operates and thinks about making money. Goldman Sachs is one of the world’s largest and most important investment banks and it is too integral to global finance to continue to act this way. The firm has veered so far from the place I joined right out of college that I can no longer in good conscience say that I identify with what it stands for.

    It might sound surprising to a skeptical public, but culture was always a vital part of Goldman Sachs’s success. It revolved around teamwork, integrity, a spirit of humility, and always doing right by our clients. The culture was the secret sauce that made this place great and allowed us to earn our clients’ trust for 143 years. It wasn’t just about making money; this alone will not sustain a firm for so long. It had something to do with pride and belief in the organization. I am sad to say that I look around today and see virtually no trace of the culture that made me love working for this firm for many years. I no longer have the pride, or the belief.

    But this was not always the case. For more than a decade I recruited and mentored candidates through our grueling interview process. I was selected as one of 10 people (out of a firm of more than 30,000) to appear on our recruiting video, which is played on every college campus we visit around the world. In 2006 I managed the summer intern program in sales and trading in New York for the 80 college students who made the cut, out of the thousands who applied.

    I knew it was time to leave when I realized I could no longer look students in the eye and tell them what a great place this was to work.

    When the history books are written about Goldman Sachs, they may reflect that the current chief executive officer, Lloyd C. Blankfein, and the president, Gary D. Cohn, lost hold of the firm’s culture on their watch. I truly believe that this decline in the firm’s moral fiber represents the single most serious threat to its long-run survival.

    Over the course of my career I have had the privilege of advising two of the largest hedge funds on the planet, five of the largest asset managers in the United States, and three of the most prominent sovereign wealth funds in the Middle East and Asia. My clients have a total asset base of more than a trillion dollars. I have always taken a lot of pride in advising my clients to do what I believe is right for them, even if it means less money for the firm. This view is becoming increasingly unpopular at Goldman Sachs. Another sign that it was time to leave.

    How did we get here? The firm changed the way it thought about leadership. Leadership used to be about ideas, setting an example and doing the right thing. Today, if you make enough money for the firm (and are not currently an ax murderer) you will be promoted into a position of influence.

    What are three quick ways to become a leader? a) Execute on the firm’s “axes,” which is Goldman-speak for persuading your clients to invest in the stocks or other products that we are trying to get rid of because they are not seen as having a lot of potential profit. b) “Hunt Elephants.” In English: get your clients — some of whom are sophisticated, and some of whom aren’t — to trade whatever will bring the biggest profit to Goldman. Call me old-fashioned, but I don’t like selling my clients a product that is wrong for them. c) Find yourself sitting in a seat where your job is to trade any illiquid, opaque product with a three-letter acronym.

    Today, many of these leaders display a Goldman Sachs culture quotient of exactly zero percent. I attend derivatives sales meetings where not one single minute is spent asking questions about how we can help clients. It’s purely about how we can make the most possible money off of them. If you were an alien from Mars and sat in on one of these meetings, you would believe that a client’s success or progress was not part of the thought process at all.

    It makes me ill how callously people talk about ripping their clients off. Over the last 12 months I have seen five different managing directors refer to their own clients as “muppets,” sometimes over internal e-mail. Even after the S.E.C., Fabulous Fab, Abacus, God’s work, Carl Levin, Vampire Squids? No humility? I mean, come on. Integrity? It is eroding. I don’t know of any illegal behavior, but will people push the envelope and pitch lucrative and complicated products to clients even if they are not the simplest investments or the ones most directly aligned with the client’s goals? Absolutely. Every day, in fact.

    It astounds me how little senior management gets a basic truth: If clients don’t trust you they will eventually stop doing business with you. It doesn’t matter how smart you are.

    These days, the most common question I get from junior analysts about derivatives is, “How much money did we make off the client?” It bothers me every time I hear it, because it is a clear reflection of what they are observing from their leaders about the way they should behave. Now project 10 years into the future: You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that the junior analyst sitting quietly in the corner of the room hearing about “muppets,” “ripping eyeballs out” and “getting paid” doesn’t exactly turn into a model citizen.

    When I was a first-year analyst I didn’t know where the bathroom was, or how to tie my shoelaces. I was taught to be concerned with learning the ropes, finding out what a derivative was, understanding finance, getting to know our clients and what motivated them, learning how they defined success and what we could do to help them get there.

    My proudest moments in life — getting a full scholarship to go from South Africa to Stanford University, being selected as a Rhodes Scholar national finalist, winning a bronze medal for table tennis at the Maccabiah Games in Israel, known as the Jewish Olympics — have all come through hard work, with no shortcuts. Goldman Sachs today has become too much about shortcuts and not enough about achievement. It just doesn’t feel right to me anymore.

    I hope this can be a wake-up call to the board of directors. Make the client the focal point of your business again. Without clients you will not make money. In fact, you will not exist. Weed out the morally bankrupt people, no matter how much money they make for the firm. And get the culture right again, so people want to work here for the right reasons. People who care only about making money will not sustain this firm — or the trust of its clients — for very much longer.

    Greg Smith is resigning today as a Goldman Sachs executive director and head of the firm’s United States equity derivatives business in Europe, the Middle East and Africa.

    Last edited by Yebsite; 03-14-2012 at 04:15 AM.

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    Cliffs.

    Dude quits his job working for a Financial Services firm. Financial Services companies don't produce any tangible product. They only provide services. After 12 years of working there, he determines the company is primarily motivated by profit and rewards its employees that help create the profit. Somehow this offended dude and he quit. And this happened in the USA.

    Shocking!

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    This is why you make your employees sign an NDA.
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    Just non-stop unrelenting LGBT propaganda being shoved down our throats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dabber View Post
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    when I was living in L.A. in 2006, I interviewed and was subsequently hired to work at Morgan Stanley as a financial adviser trainee in their Woodland Hills office (and yes, lol @ the irony of me being a financial advisor...hof)

    Anyway...

    It was 40K a year to start plus bonuses and would have been a 200K a year job within 3 years. I was chosen as one of 4 applicants out of 300 or so after scoring very well on a series of aptitude tests. Even an entry level position at Morgan Stanley is quite lucrative and highly sought after.

    But after 8 short weeks I realized it just wasn't for me. I could never quite get behind the idea of pimping financial 'products' and the intangible aspect of it all just made me uneasy.

    The people within the firm were all sharks and very materialistic and money motivated and struck me as superficial to the core.

    There is definitely an argument that it was foolish to resign, and walk away from such a potentially lucrative job. But I hated the idea of living my life to accumulate wealth and lie to people, which is precisely what the financial industry is all about.

    I got a brief glimpse from the inside and didn't like what I saw.

    Upon getting hired, I had to sign a very detailed non-disclosure agreement and the first year was going to be spent studying for the Series 7 and several other financial industry certifications.

    Now after the big housing crash, everyone sees just how corrupt Wall Street really is, and I'm grateful I quit when I did.

    Morgan Stanley was right there in the middle of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOD View Post
    when I was living in L.A. in 2006, I interviewed and was subsequently hired to work at Morgan Stanley as a financial adviser trainee in their Woodland Hills office (and yes, lol @ the irony of me being a financial advisor...hof)

    Anyway...

    It was 40K a year to start plus bonuses and would have been a 200K a year job within 3 years. I was chosen as one of 4 applicants out of 300 or so after scoring very well on a series of aptitude tests. Even an entry level position at Morgan Stanley is quite lucrative and highly sought after.

    But after 8 short weeks I realized it just wasn't for me. I could never quite get behind the idea of pimping financial 'products' and the intangible aspect of it all just made me uneasy.

    The people within the firm were all sharks and very materialistic and money motivated and struck me as superficial to the core.

    There is definitely an argument that it was foolish to resign, and walk away from such a potentially lucrative job. But I hated the idea of living my life to accumulate wealth and lie to people, which is precisely what the financial industry is all about.

    I got a brief glimpse from the inside and didn't like what I saw.

    Upon getting hired, I had to sign a very detailed non-disclosure agreement and the first year was going to be spent studying for the Series 7 and several other financial industry certifications.

    Now after the big housing crash, everyone sees just how corrupt Wall Street really is, and I'm grateful I quit when I did.

    Morgan Stanley was right there in the middle of it.
    You and I are cursed such that we recognize the love of money for the fallacy that it is. Don't feel bad for leaving (if you do) because you would never have enjoyed however much money you made and the people you worked with would have made you sick.

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