Mostly agree, but seems odd to pocket the location, one would think that parents would be holding out all hope for survival and would give it up sooner than later in the hopes of saving his life.Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Even if he told them he killed her it probably wouldn't change their perspective. They wouldn't let him leave if they knew he would hels.
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what happened to the Ford 2012 Transit Van, White?
(long before there was a PFA i had my Grenade & Crossbones avatar at DD)
The two Moab, Utah officers are undre fire now for not arresting Gabby Petito (!!) after they were called to the disturbance which occurred there:
https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-...nt-review-says
This is needless Monday morning quarterbacking. The belief is that if they arrested her for domestic violence (since she had been hitting him, and not the other way around), that might have disrupted the relationship enough to where the trip might have been aborted.
There was indeed some female privilege in this one (the woman assaulting a man in a relationship is much less likely to be arrested for domestic violence than the other way around, especially if she's small), but I have to agree with the call they made here. Because of the size and strength difference, Laundrie wasn't in much danger from Gabby hitting him, and obviously you saw what happened when the reverse occurred.
They should just let this go, and not put the officers on any kind of probation. On the bodycam, one of the officers said he didn't want to arrest Petito because it would given Brian "more control over her", with him holding the potential bail money.
In fact, it does seem like money might have been part of the source of his rage, as he had some fight with a restaurant about not wanting to pay for something which got really heated, and it appears he killed Gabby that same day.
2 more deadbeats living off Covid cash gone. Do we blame their deaths on Trump or Biden, was never sure.
And she probably should have had a bra on in her last appearance in the media she desired so much.
RIP to both.
BUMP
Two updates.
First, apparently a notebook was found by Brian Laundrie's body, and the FBI just revealed that he admitted having killed her in the notebook: https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/21/us/ga...rie/index.html
Second, remember those two lesbians murdered in Moab, at around the same time Brian Laundrie was there? They claimed several months ago that Laundrie wasn't involved, and that's still the claim. However, police claim they now have a "persons of interest" in the murder, but police are also bitching that people are speculating on the case on social media. I guess the police don't understand the internet? A lot of interest developed in these murders because of the possible Laundrie connection, and people still have interest in seeing it solved, even though Laundrie probably didn't do it. They can't bitch about the internet taking guesses.
https://www.eastidahonews.com/2022/0...uble-homicide/
https://www.facebook.com/utahgrandco...32047745785227
I was kind of blown away by the sheer amount of time they spent on two emotional kids having a spat with no injuries, besides minor ones to him. Had they arrested her, she gets out in a day and they’re whining that the cops arrested the victim of abuse rather than the killer. Those cops were patient with two young adults acting like children and treated it as serious as anyone can expect and fell down on the side of common sense.
Let’s get real. Those laws are there to protect women. Once they ascertain the 100lb girl was the aggressor, any further time they spent was overly cautionary and maybe a little CYA. They didn’t choose him for a boyfriend. She did. They did an excellent job imo and showed a lot of patience. I would have made sure the girl was fine and said can you two dumbasses quit making fools of yourselves and swerving around fighting while driving and the whole video would have been five minutes before I left to grab a coffee.
I actually find the murder of the lesbians far more fascinating than this Petito case.
Put aside the national hysteria and the weird situation with Brian coming home without her, and then refusing to talk to anyone about it... we pretty much knew the entire way that he killed her. It was just a question of exactly where and when, and whether they'd be able to prove it. But there was no mystery to the whole thing. We knew she was dead, we knew who did it, and we knew it was very likely a domestic violence rage killing while on their trip.
The murder of the lesbians is much more bizarre, especially given the police's reaction to it. The texts from one of the women complained of a "creepy guy" at their campsite who had apparently been stalking them, and these complaints were repeated at a Moab bar. Then the two women were found murdered, shot multiple times, and undressed (but not sexually assaulted).
However, despite not having a suspect, Moab police assured the public that they were "not in danger" and that the killer "has left the area".
How could they make such bold claims, if they didn't know who did it? I think there's something we're not being told.
The only possibility I can think of would be that the killer had a burner phone which was traced to the campsite, and they traced the signal leaving town and going far away, but the guy shut it off before they could catch up with him.
Either that, or they do know who did it, but are pretending they don't, so they can build a case.
The older of the two also clearly had a past involvement with drugs, and they were living a weird homeless lifestyle in the summer when it wasn't cold outside. To me it seems like it was either someone they knew, or someone associated with a person they knew, who carried out some kind of vendetta killing. Otherwise it makes zero sense how relaxed Moab police were that they didn't have a serial killer on the loose.
Really interested to see this one solved.
BUMP
The matter of the murdered lesbians is not yet solved, but there is new info.
- The "killer left the area" statement from August 2021 is believed by some to be a lie told by police. There are suspicions that police were under pressure to make that statement, in order to prevent mass cancellations near the end of peak tourist season that summer. Indeed, police have never stated how they determined that the killer had left the area, or that the public wasn't in danger.
- The murder occurred on August 14. A private investigator, hired by the Schulte family (parents of the younger girl), found that law enforcement obtained an audio recording of gunshots at 11:35am on August 14, with screams as the gunshots went off. The police then confirmed that they had such a recording of gunshots, and it was from August 14 -- the same morning the two women were last seen alive. The PI said the recording was at 11:35am MDT. The police would not confirm or deny that.
- A 27-year-old man was stopped by Moab police on August 17, three days after the presumed date of the murder. This man was acting extremely strange for someone who had simply been pulled over for speeding, so much that the veteran officer decided not to write him a ticket, but instead observe him. The man was brought in for questioning and "cleared", but he didn't have a real alibi for August 14, and he admitted he knew Kylen Schulte from the bar she frequented. He denied killing the women, and insisted he didn't even know they were a couple. He was believed to be mentally ill, and slept in his car -- sometimes fairly close to where the murders occurred. However, when this story came to light a month ago, police quickly issued a statement that this unidentified man was not a suspect. One woman told police that this guy frequently made advances toward women, and made them feel uncomfortable. Hmmm....
- A cell phone was found at the campsite where the two women were staying, but it didn't belong to either of them. It's not clear what was found on the phone.
I still think this weird homeless guy should be a suspect. How can they rule him out if he had no alibi? Seems like a lot of incompetence at Moab PD.
So they claim they know who killed the lesbos.... and he's dead.
Adam Pinkusiewicz, age 44, was known to be near the campsite where Kylen Schulte and Crystal Turner were shot dead. He had previously worked at McDonald's in Moab, while Turner also worked there.
The day after their murder, Pinkusiewicz aburptly left Moab, not even picking up his final paycheck.
He then told someone else that he "killed two women in Utah", and gave some details regarding the killing which weren't made public. He then killed himself days later.
The motive for the killings was not known. However, this leads me to believe that the police knew all along that he did it, and felt no urgency to announce it, because they knew he was dead. Remember -- in August 2021, the police announced that the killer had already left the area (true) and that the public wasn't in danger (also true, because he was dead). I had always wondered how they could have confidently said this, if they had no idea who did it.
So why are they only announcing this now, 9 months later?
I believe they strongly suspected Pinkusiewicz, but since he was dead, there was no one to question or arrest, nor was there any urgency to name him. It seems to be a recent development that this contact of his came forward with the info he gave them, which verified that he was the one who did it.
If you google it, you will find that back in November 2021, people in Moab were complaining that they were trying to get police to investigate Pinkusiewicz (who wasn't announced as a person of interest, nor was he said to be dead), but they weren't interested. People were getting pissed at the police's lackadaisical approach to Pinkusiewicz's possible involvement. Now it makes more sense -- they knew he had already croaked!
The November 2021 incidents spawned from a McDonald's manager remembering Pinkusiewicz and Crystal Turner (the older of the two women) having arguments on the job. The manager remembered Pinkusiewicz bolting town, and told someone, who then went to police about it. At the time of the murders (August 2021), apparently the manager didn't think much of Pinkusiewicz no-showing work and failing to pick up his check, as Turner hadn't worked there in awhile. About three months later, he put it together and got suspicious.
Pinkusiewicz's name was not made public in any news media until mid-May 2022 when police named him as the likely killer.
Very bizarre. Small police departments really suck at this type of thing.
Apparently he got in an argument with two other lesbians who worked at McDonald's, right before the murder?
This interview with the McDonald's manager was from November 2021.
LOL Grand County police (recorded November 2021)
Credit to Druff for his continued, persistent interest in all things lesbians.
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Dog the Bounty Hunter doesn't believe Adam did it.
The lesbians reported a "creepy guy" stalking them at their campsite, and in fact one of them even said that if they're found murdered, he did it.
They were murdered the next day.
Dog stated that they wouldn't have referred to Adam as "a creepy guy", and instead would have named him, as the older lesbo actually knew him from work, and in fact had an altercation with him at one point.
However, this doesn't rule out Adam. It's possible that they couldn't see Adam's face, and didn't realize it was him. It's possible that the "creepy guy" was a coincidence, and had nothing to do with the murder. It's possible that Adam never got close enough to them to be recognized, especially at night.
I will say that Adam bolting town the day after the murders (not even picking up his paycheck), telling someone he killed two women in Utah, and helsing himself is pretty strong.
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