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    Remember when this site purported to fight fraud and be committed to free speech?

    That was cool
    PokerFraudAlert...will never censor your claims, even if they're against one of our sponsors. In addition to providing you an open forum report fraud within the poker community, we will also analyze your claims with a clear head an unbiased point of view. And, of course, the accused will always have the floor to defend themselves.-Dan Druff

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    was it all a grift?

    you gotta wonder.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

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    TODGE ARE YOU OUT HERE GRIFTING?

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    Hey, we all had an equal chance to get in on the ground floor.

    I feel like Todd just really really wants Daly back.
    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    I’ll be honest I don’t know what this site stands for anymore. That thread was gonna literally stop people from getting scammed. It was one of the top google searches for it. I guess I’m a few months time when a shitload of people get scammed and the thing collapses we will pretend it’s news…

    It was bullshit enough when the cmoney thread was locked but wasn’t like anyone was gonna get hurt so who really cared if it was done to hide the embarrassment. But here people are gonna get hurt.

    Also there was an amazing interview done last night for 2 hours but I guess I’m not allowed to link it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    BTW JACKDANIELS is the first one banned from the thread. He is accusing me of being "duped by a middle aged man who dresses like John Cena"

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    First Todd hastily removed the thread. Then he thought better of it and restored it.

    By waffling and ultimately deciding to remove it again it’s really difficult not to think he’s more worried about his own reputation than protecting others from obvious fraud. It’s a really, really bad look. Several long time respected posters advised him not to do it. And yet here we are.

    Daly was a really good poster and a major asset to this site. I don’t think he had any culpability in the ponzi fraud scheme nor do I think Todd did either. They were just marks that were early enough to profit. At least Todd realized when presented with copious amounts of evidence this was indeed a fraudulent Ponzi scheme. I’m disappointed Daly didn’t at least say hey I was duped too but I made money. Apparently he’s fine with making money in a ponzi so long as the ends justify the means. My perception of him was that he had a better moral compass than that. Guess not. He will be missed regardless.

    Todd keeps trotting out the hey at least nobody on the site lost money line. Although there’s absolutely no way he could know that (there’s many lurkers after all) I guess in his mind that makes it okay.

    I also think the fact he tried to make the false equivalence of what’s posted on the censored website about other crypto coins being similar that one is complete bullshit. When I called him out on that crickets.

    Hopefully this posts before Todd censors the thread and removes it.

    I fear this scandal will push away the few posters left here who actually contribute valuable posts.

     
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    He deleted a post I made that did not reference the thing directly and even wiped away a neg that his puppy Dwai left on his 'statement'.

    Ponzi Todge had stood and taken heat before. The utter cowardice and hypocrisy shown in this situation really makes one wonder how deep this goes.

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    Why did I start this site? Because I love the game of poker. And because I hate what the scumbags and criminals are doing to it.

    Prior to the "boom" of 2003, the poker community was small and close-knit. Cheating was localized to a few people engaging in collusion or other small-time scams. Times have changed. Poker has become big business, and the massive amount of money involved has attracted many bottom-feeders of our society.

    Fortunately, we have the internet as the people's weapon to shine the light upon those engaging in theft from our community. Unfortunately, up until now, there was no single, organized place to list and discuss these scandals. While the 2+2 forums have a large following and have been instrumental in breaking open various scandals, they are far from ideal. Accusations against their sponsors have often been censored. Even when discussion has been fully allowed, the site is so huge that it's hard to find these scam warning threads, and most people never see them.

    PokerFraudAlert seeks to be the one-stop place on the web to learn all about the shady companies, individuals, and situations in poker. We can't do this alone. We will need your help to be the eyes and ears of our community, and to report whatever you see on our forum. We will never censor your claims, even if they're against one of our sponsors. In addition to providing you an open forum report fraud within the poker community, we will also analyze your claims with a clear head an unbiased point of view. And, of course, the accused will always have the floor to defend themselves.

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    Any one think that there were some other forces in play here. SMI tried to have the thread shut down, druff indicated he is not anonymous. So perhaps someone contacted him and advised to shut the thread down to avoid some consequences that may occur if the thread is to continue in the direction it was.
    Can only speculate this but some of his comments made me feel this was the case.
    I assume there is a lot of money in play and no one wants to loose it because of a seventh tear poker fraud forum, SMI’s fault thinks there’s a bunch of gullible dummies here.
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    Originally Posted by DanDruff:Since I'm a 6'2" Republican with an average-sized nose and a last name which doesn't end with "stein", "man", or "berg", I can hide among the goyim and remain undetected unless I open my mouth about money matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Von Strucker View Post
    Any one think that there were some other forces in play here. SMI tried to have the thread shut down, druff indicated he is not anonymous. So perhaps someone contacted him and advised to shut the thread down to avoid some consequences that may occur if the thread is to continue in the direction it was.
    Can only speculate this but some of his comments made me feel this was the case.
    I assume there is a lot of money in play and no one wants to loose it because of a seventh tear poker fraud forum, SMI’s fault thinks there’s a bunch of gullible dummies here.
    It’s all fun and games until you roll over and find a Zed head in bed next to you

     
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    Why is the name of the coin banned?

    I do understand why Druff wanted the thread removed from PFA. It's a black eye for him, PFA, his son/family and respected long-time users like Daly.

    I don't understand why there can't be a thread/notice/anything that mentions the coin name and a list of reasons/videos on why not to purchase said coin.


    Druff you pride yourself on alerting others to scams and helping uncover them. Why aren't we helping others avoid the ponzi coin?

    I hope you discuss it on radio at some point + allow a thread (sans trolling) to inform the public.

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    If you understand the reason the thread was removed, you mostly understand why the coin name is banned.

    It's a complex matter and I don't wish for it to be discussed here at all. If I did want it discussed here, the original thread would have stood. I don't mind discussion of my act of removing the thread, or my justification for it. I feel the users here were owed that, so I let this thread stand, and in fact posted several long messages explaining myself.

    This of course is an exception regarding the way things are usually done here, but this was an unusual situation, to say the least. This won't become the norm on PFA, so no worries about that.

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    BTW when things settle down we need examine whoa is me a bit more, should be the official motto of second dinner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    BTW when things settle down we need examine whoa is me a bit more, should be the official motto of second dinner.
    The infamous second dinner turned out not to be the cause of the issues that year. At first I thought it was, because it was wrongly told to me by a doctor that acid reflux as a result of weight gain was the culprit, and that dinner started a pattern of eating way more which had caused me to gain 16 pounds. This turned out to be untrue -- it was a cause completely unrelated to weight gain.

    Sad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    If you understand the reason the thread was removed, you mostly understand why the coin name is banned.

    It's a complex matter and I don't wish for it to be discussed here at all. If I did want it discussed here, the original thread would have stood. I don't mind discussion of my act of removing the thread, or my justification for it. I feel the users here were owed that, so I let this thread stand, and in fact posted several long messages explaining myself.

    This of course is an exception regarding the way things are usually done here, but this was an unusual situation, to say the least. This won't become the norm on PFA, so no worries about that.
    Druff,

    Will you commit here and now to using the profit you made trading that crypto to fund continuing to run this scam-exposing forum?
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    I actually hope this [second impeachment] succeeds, because I want Trump put down politically like a sick, 14-year-old dog. ... I don't want him complicating the 2024 primary season. I just want him done.
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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    If you understand the reason the thread was removed, you mostly understand why the coin name is banned.

    It's a complex matter and I don't wish for it to be discussed here at all. If I did want it discussed here, the original thread would have stood. I don't mind discussion of my act of removing the thread, or my justification for it. I feel the users here were owed that, so I let this thread stand, and in fact posted several long messages explaining myself.

    This of course is an exception regarding the way things are usually done here, but this was an unusual situation, to say the least. This won't become the norm on PFA, so no worries about that.
    Druff,

    Will you commit here and now to using the profit you made trading that crypto to fund continuing to run this scam-exposing forum?
    I'll commit that I've already been running this site at a loss for 9 1/2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post

    Druff,

    Will you commit here and now to using the profit you made trading that crypto to fund continuing to run this scam-exposing forum?
    I'll commit that I've already been running this site at a loss for 9 1/2 years.
    That’s a sunk cost. I’m talking going forward! What’s your answer to THAT question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I actually hope this [second impeachment] succeeds, because I want Trump put down politically like a sick, 14-year-old dog. ... I don't want him complicating the 2024 primary season. I just want him done.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    If you understand the reason the thread was removed, you mostly understand why the coin name is banned.

    It's a complex matter and I don't wish for it to be discussed here at all. If I did want it discussed here, the original thread would have stood. I don't mind discussion of my act of removing the thread, or my justification for it. I feel the users here were owed that, so I let this thread stand, and in fact posted several long messages explaining myself.

    This of course is an exception regarding the way things are usually done here, but this was an unusual situation, to say the least. This won't become the norm on PFA, so no worries about that.
    Druff,

    Will you commit here and now to using the profit you made trading that crypto to fund continuing to run this scam-exposing forum?

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