Druff keeps complaining about liberal bias in the news media, but the numbers don’t support that.

[limitles]

What’s totally retarded is accepting that mantra AND repeating the Fox bullshit like the “Russia investigation hoax” and “Hunter Biden’s laptop”.

Wait a minute...

So you think that Hunter Biden's laptop is anything but a highly disturbing situation for Biden, the mainstream media, and big social media?

Because what I saw was a true (and fairly obviously true) story censored, because it was a week before the election and made Biden look bad. And I've seen no apologies from these outlets for censoring it and refusing to cover it, despite proof which has since emerged that the story was accurate.

What did you see?

OMG. "Real"people actually believe this

[Walter Sobchak]

Druff, what is your opinion on the “Russia hoax”? Did you watch the impeachment trial?

The good thing about facts is they’re true whether anyone believes them or not.

[CryptoNinja]

I think if we could just get Druff to agree media bias goes both ways and to promise us he will stop griping about it, we could chalk this up as a win, boys.

[Jayjami]

What’s totally retarded is accepting that mantra AND repeating the Fox bullshit like the “Russia investigation hoax” and “Hunter Biden’s laptop”.

you do realize that the Russian thing was a huge hoax and you fell for it for 4 years right?

and hunter biden's laptop does exist and he's smoking crack and banging kids on video

nice president you got there

At least Putin doesn’t have a peepee tape on him.

[Dan Druff]

I saw someone who was personally attacked for purely political reasons. It’s a nothingburger. He has admitted his past drug use. He’s also, unlike Ivanka and Jared, not involved in the government and has no role as anything other than being a private citizen. The child porn stuff is a straight up lie. It’s vicious and frankly despicable how some people have done everything they can to destroy him simply because he is Biden’s son and has had a checkered past that he’s trying to put behind him. Has he ever owned a laptop? Yes. Did they somehow get data from his laptop? Yes. Does it contain any seriously incriminating evidence that deserves further scrutiny? No.

He was running around getting big bags of cash from foreign countries of concern to national security. He was getting "jobs" in these country which didn't correspond to his education, experience, or skill set. Much more was found on the laptop besides him doing drugs and banging hookers.

Regardless, the story was suppressed by social media and by mainstream media. If it was a nothingburger, as you say, the people should have been the ones to decide that. Instead, the NY Fucking Post was banned from Twitter for posting it, and anyone else attempting to share the story was auto-banned.

Imagine if a scandalous story about one of the Trump kids was suppressed like that. You'd be screaming bloody murder.

I have acknolwedged many times that Fox News is biased and doesn't always tell the truth. Do you think this is some kind of victory to get me to say this? I don't like the fact that there is "mainstream media news" (aka left wing news) and "right wing news". We need just "news", with no bias at all. We used to have some form of that, as reecently as a decade ago. Now it's completely polarized, and most of the outlets are doing the bidding for the left. This is what has allowed Fox to rise to such high levels of success -- because those on the right have fled over there.

I would love to see both an unbiased major news organization and an unbiased fact checking organziation. Unfortunately, neither exists.

However, it's not quite a "both sides" problem, because the left has a much stronger hold on news outlets (all but Fox) and fact checkers (all of them).

In conclusion, yes, news is overall left-biased.

[CryptoNinja]

The reason the Biden laptop stuff was “suppressed” is because there was no proof and you can’t just make stuff up and slander people. Ask Rudy Guiliani what happened to his law license in New York. Still, even some of the things you are saying here itt there is no evidence of. No proof he “banged” anybody in fact. These are the facts. But you said it yourself, Druff. You think all the fact checkers are biased when in reality you just don’t like what the facts are and you continue to repeat the lies told to you by the likes of Rudy, Lin Wood and Sidney Powell.

[Dan Druff]

The reason the Biden laptop stuff was “suppressed” is because there was no proof and you can’t just make stuff up and slander people. Ask Rudy Guiliani what happened to his law license in New York. Still, even some of the things you are saying here itt there is no evidence of. No proof he “banged” anybody in fact. These are the facts. But you said it yourself, Druff. You think all the fact checkers are biased when in reality you just don’t like what the facts are and you continue to repeat the lies told to you by the likes of Rudy, Lin Wood and Sidney Powell.

No proof?



The fucking FBI seized his laptop. Joe Biden himself wouldn't deny that the e-mails were real. If this were falsified, Biden would've been screaming at the top of his lungs that it was all a frame job. Instead, crickets.

How come stories about Trump and the piss tapes (a story which was actually false, unlike the Hunter stuff) were allowed to propagate all over social media, if "proof" is their standard?

This also wasn't just a rumor pushed by some troll or some alt-right site. The NY Post, which has been around since the early 1900s, was the one reporting the story. That's not good enough to be allowed on Twitter?

Are you really this gullible? It was a week before the election, and the social media companies colluded to suppress this story so it wouldn't kill Biden's apparent lead.

You lose credibility when you ascribe a noble purpose to obviously biased moves. You really think your party is clean as a whistle, and only the GOP is dirty? C'mon, man!

[Cerveza Fria]

The reason the Biden laptop stuff was “suppressed” is because there was no proof and you can’t just make stuff up and slander people. Ask Rudy Guiliani what happened to his law license in New York. Still, even some of the things you are saying here itt there is no evidence of. No proof he “banged” anybody in fact. These are the facts. But you said it yourself, Druff. You think all the fact checkers are biased when in reality you just don’t like what the facts are and you continue to repeat the lies told to you by the likes of Rudy, Lin Wood and Sidney Powell.

Me thinks that this Ninja has been smoking to much Crypto.

[CryptoNinja]

Leftist commies CNN totally spin this as being a bad thing for Giuliani, Sidney Powell and Lin Wood. Prolly not even true.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/25/polit...its/index.html

[CryptoNinja]

Qtards:

[Dan Druff]

I am not a fan of Sidney Powell or any of the elction fraud stuff, nor are a lot of Republicans.

I feel Giuliani isn't all there, and has been declining since the late 2000s. This is sad, because he did a great job in NYC, and the more recent narrative has caused people to forget that (or rewrite history regarding NYC).

What does this have to do with the biased media, though?

[CryptoNinja]

Are these not the same lawyers that spread the Biden’s laptop lies? I guess it could go in a different thread but it seemed apropos enough.

[Walter Sobchak]

Are these not the same lawyers that spread the Biden’s laptop lies? I guess it could go in a different thread but it seemed apropos enough.

Yes they were part of it. Giuliani was part of Trump trying to sell America out to Ukraine.

[CryptoNinja]

Are these not the same lawyers that spread the Biden’s laptop lies? I guess it could go in a different thread but it seemed apropos enough.

Yes they were part of it. Giuliani was part of Trump trying to sell America out to Ukraine.

So Druff believes these lawyers when they are talking about Hunter Biden’s laptop, but not when they are talking about election fraud? I’m confused.

[Walter Sobchak]

Yes they were part of it. Giuliani was part of Trump trying to sell America out to Ukraine.

So Druff believes these lawyers when they are talking about Hunter Biden’s laptop, but not when they are talking about election fraud? I’m confused.

I don’t see what’s the issue, most people could be right about one thing and wrong about another, just not these people. They happen to be wrong about both. They long ago gave up trying to be actual lawyers and chose to be clown show conspiracy theorists for the cult of Trump, so believing them on anything is -EV. You’ll notice no reputable lawyer would file election conspiracy lawsuits.

[CryptoNinja]

So Druff believes these lawyers when they are talking about Hunter Biden’s laptop, but not when they are talking about election fraud? I’m confused.

I don’t see what’s the issue, most people could be right about one thing and wrong about another, just not these people. They happen to be wrong about both. They long ago gave up trying to be actual lawyers and chose to be clown show conspiracy theorists for the cult of Trump, so believing them on anything is -EV. You’ll notice no reputable lawyer would file election conspiracy lawsuits.

Right but wouldn’t you like maybe believe them at first, then you see they are liars and then you would decide that maybe the first stuff you believed them about was also a lie? Druff is clearly smart enough to deduce this on his own. Right?

[Dan Druff]

I don’t see what’s the issue, most people could be right about one thing and wrong about another, just not these people. They happen to be wrong about both. They long ago gave up trying to be actual lawyers and chose to be clown show conspiracy theorists for the cult of Trump, so believing them on anything is -EV. You’ll notice no reputable lawyer would file election conspiracy lawsuits.

Right but wouldn’t you like maybe believe them at first, then you see they are liars and then you would decide that maybe the first stuff you believed them about was also a lie? Druff is clearly smart enough to deduce this on his own. Right?

The story seemed very credible, and was. Joe Biden also wasn't denying the legitimacy of the e-mails, which 100% he would have if they were fabricated.

The election fraud crap seemed like nonsense from the very beginning, and indeed was nonsense.

The NY Post reported this, and has been publishing since the early 1900s. Whether you like the NY Post or not is immaterial. The bottom line is that it's an established publication, and doesn't publish outright lies or conspiracy theories. At the very minmum, they should have been allowed to tweet out their own story.

In fact, any semi-credible looking story should be allowed to be shared on social media without fact checking. If it turns out to be bullshit, social media users themselves will call it out and discredit it.

Why wasn't any anti-Trump story on Twitter banned until it was "fact checked"? You seriously don't see any bias there?

Remember how many times you saw the "Trump raped a 13-year-old girl" story float around Twitter and Facebook? Why wasn't that removed? (It turned out that was a hoax, by the way, hatched by a longtime media troll known as "Reverend Bud Green".)

[CryptoNinja]

Are you not aware of the Jane Doe vs. Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein lawsuit that was dropped in 2016? Just because the case was dropped doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. I’m sure she was paid well. How is that a “hoax”? It’s a real lawsuit and a real claim by a real person.

https://d2jhuj1whasmze.cloudfront.ne...filed_5vIx.pdf

[randomguy]

Unless FOX doesn’t count as news.

To me all this says is that more people watch conservative news. I don't see how anyone could think that the news source they go to isn't biased. An objective news source is something that doesn't exist.

[CryptoNinja]

Are you not aware of the Jane Doe vs. Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein lawsuit that was dropped in 2016? Just because the case was dropped doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. I’m sure she was paid well. How is that a “hoax”? It’s a real lawsuit and a real claim by a real person.

https://d2jhuj1whasmze.cloudfront.ne...filed_5vIx.pdf

BTW this story went mostly unreported and most people are still unaware of it. If you are arguing that people with money and power have ways of controlling the media, we agree. No argument here. But what are you going to do, have a state controlled media? It’s all driven by dollars, not left or right.