not consistent with the stat quoted of 60,000 Afghan army casualties over the last 3 years...the story is that until the US pulled out, the Afghan army was fighting
if only 40,000 actual fighters, those would have been exhausted long ago..
and Sont, if indeed there were covert deals between Taliban and Afghan army officers, then why fight? just phony war until the US leaves is what i'd expect, with zero.zero casualties
(ghost soldiers and ghost casualties? possible...with mil officers & govt leaders pocketing the ghost pay)
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supposedly this whole boondoggle cost $275-300M per day for 20 years...
think about how many twinks OSA could have banged out for just a fraction of that cost...
thanks cleatus - I'm sure you're correct - nobody will care about Afghanistan in a couple months. Maybe sooner than that. IRL I've had many talks about this issue and about Iraq but agree that most/many people are too wrapped up in whatever else in distracting them to truly think about problems Not too long ago a couple soldiers were killed in Iraq the same day Lady Gaga's dogs were stolen. Guess which story got more coverage?
I have no clue, just what he said. Said they list police as part of the army and many enlisted were routinely no shows and the army had constant attrition. Like it certainly didn’t sound like the American military where they own you for x amount of years.
I had no idea that many Afghan soldiers died. Or reportedly died.
Like most Americans, Afghanistan hadn’t entered my thoughts often since like the time I was reading Kite Runner.
For years, some dude I went to school with who worked for a private contractor would post pics from ever there, but even that was probably like 7-10 years ago. I know he made a lot of money over there from what his buddies said.
When Trump announced we were pulling out, I was aware we still had troops there, but just assumed we’d always have troops there. Some minimal amount.
I recall looking up the death toll, and at that point last year it was something like 2000-2500 range deaths iirc over almost 20 years. I think it was like 5k in Iraq. Clearly a lot of maimed and hurt, but found it kind of amazing we lost more people on 9/11 than in the war the following 18 years or whatever in Afghanistan.
I thought to myself if you were a kid from inner city Chicago or a kid with drug problems in rural America who was steered towards the military, that you’ve been much safer in a war zone than staying at home. I would guess a bad weekend in Chicago has more death than any battle the last 10 years. When you think of past wars, it just shocked me how few died for such long conflicts. How few of our own. Clearly a ton of locals and their fighters died.
So if they lost 60k, then clearly we were telling them what to do and backing the fuck away or something? Don’t know why they’d fall apart so quickly. Have no idea if the guy was talking nonsense or not? Just some military correspondent/former general or intelligence, who was interviewed when I was watching the coverage. Can’t remember his title, but he just laughed off the 300k number.
Compared to who? The majority of electives everywhere are not planet savy. At the least you have a President who's been in and around world politics unlike a sociopath who cared about himself only. duh
Maybe the Afghan army didnt show up because a lot of them believe that Islam is right about women.
Seriously though, even in Afghanistan a lot of people have smart phones. They see Cardi B simulating sex acts in music videos and then interviewing our President. They see the degradation, sin and perversions that we worship, and they want no part of it; especially for their young girls.
I can't believe this crap has gone on for 20 years.
Those that co-signed it should be shunned from public life forever. GWB should never show his face again, the Cheney family should disappear entirely, and Biden, ohhhh, don't even get me started on racist war monger Joe Biden.
Go home to Delaware and sleep old man.
Both parties signed on to this for 20 years, anyone who has been there or whose family has been there throughout (Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell, Romney, Cheney) needs to go.
Time to tell the boomer generation to GTFO, and physically drag them out of the building. Guillotines for those that resist.
If we are going to needlessly recreate history, it might as well be the French Revolution, not Nazi Germany.
You idiots need to STOP.
STOP pretending that you give a shit about Afghanistan.
Nobody gives a shit about that country.
Afghanistan may become the “Saudi Arabia of lithium,” per an internal Pentagon memo ….Chinese dealmakers have their bags packed, and will arrive on the first flights after the airports open,” said Byron King, geologist and mining and energy writer for Agora Financial.
“People who understand exploration have long looked at Afghanistan with desire,” he told MarketWatch, adding that Afghanistan has routinely sent representatives to international mining conferences in the past 20 years to “give talks about the mineral endowment.”
I personally don’t see the chaos in Kabul that Sonatine does. I mean there will be some head cracking but not a political fall.
The word Taliban means ‘students’ or ‘seekers’ in Pashto, one of the two official languages of Afghanistan. That whole refugee history where a generation of kids fled the bombing and got schooled in Pakistan and came back angry and educated.
I keep mulling this over since the fall.
I have always espoused the effect of pissing off a generation of young boys by carpet bombing their families. They don’t forget especially if they are poor. Give the TSA agents a raise. Yeah, we wanted to limit terrorism. Lol
Forever disrupting the Mideast. It’s what we have done there since the last day of WWII. I contend it’s where we first flexed the NeoCon Truman Doctrine bullshit. We suck at it.
Last edited by Sanlmar; 08-20-2021 at 12:48 PM.
and to think, a week or two ago there was talk of an intervention / US supported coupe of Cuba
HELLO NO!
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