My guess is you’re too drunk to realize you failed to post it correctly.Originally Posted by tgull
Toilet bubbled up randomly for entire stay like a small Yellowstone geyser
Asked for quiet room, awakened at 7am by bizarre dinosaur exhibit out window
Asked for side "away from road", given direct view of pet food processing plant
Booked "best" suite in hotel, but it shared a common wall with the elevator
Faulty rooftop exhaust fan caused our room to vibrate with low-pitch buzz all night M
Malfunctioning building fire alarm rang 5 times between 1am and 8am, manager refused bill adjustment
Hotel with 500+ rooms had no restaurants open except buffet and overpriced steakhouse open 4-8pm
Hotel which appeared to be mountaniside resort turned out to be weird college dorm like campus
Charming log cabin turned out to be a motorhome with maintenance issues
All of these occurred
My guess is you’re too drunk to realize you failed to post it correctly.
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It just dawned on me the reason Druff seemingly never travels internationally to a non English speaking country is because he’s worried he won’t be able to complain about hotel/service fails and get his discounts.
What stuff did Ben like?
Happy you're back, Druff. I've been missing the show. I'm sure most/all of these things happened. Also, good to see Nicky Pipes posting here since he's left us all hanging for 4 days in his own thread about virus exposure and whether or not he's been sick.
Was it Christmas morning?Short vacations, yes.
Long vacations it's almost impossible to run that well, since I hotel hop very quickly, and I also put a lot of work into making sure I get the exact room type and location I want. I don't have super high standards for hotel quality (mid-grade hotel is fine for me), but I do have high standards for where in the hotel I'm placed. I don't want to be by the elevator, facing a busy street, etc.
Anyway between potential maintenance issues and fails in keeping the room location promise, it's almost impossible to go through several hotels with zero problems.
Interestingly, I almost did it in 2015. I had a 2-week road trip similar to this one, where we drove from LA to Olympic National Park (northern Washington), back to Seattle, and flew home. We were almost all the way through the trip, and all of the hotels were either problem-free or had very minor problems, and I didn't complain once. I remarked to my girlfriend that I was shocked we were about to complete such a long trip with zero fail.
Then the second-to-last hotel had a non-working toilet, and they couldn't get the maintenance man over there until the next day. When I asked for a bill adjustment, the manager snapped back, "You had a toilet you could use in the halway bathroom, so I don't see what the big deal is."
So close.
The next day is pretty brutal for a non-working toilet.
There's a new mini-series on HBO called The White Lotus about the people working and staying at a luxury resort in Hawaii. It's written by Mike White (School of Rock). I've enjoyed it quite a bit.
Anyways, there's a character who is bothered by an error with his room reservation and he spends the entire time battling with hotel manager to rectify the situation (while he should be enjoying his honeymoon with the hottest woman on Earth, Alexandra Daddario). Loosely based on Druff? Kidding of course. But you might get a kick out of it.
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Here's the answers:
- Toilet bubbled up randomly for entire stay like a small Yellowstone geyser
TRUE. This occurred at the first hotel I stayed at in downtown Denver. It was really annoying, becuase this seemingly happened randomly, on average about once every 45 minutes, but it was impossible to predict. My girlfriend was understandably afraid to sit on the toilet. When I had to take a crap, I actually went downstairs to do it in the lobby bathroom. Maintenance was unable to replicate or fix it, and the front desk claimed to not be aware of the issue. The bubbling was air forcing itself up through the toilet, causing a large splash, and would make the loud gurgling sound you'd expect (which could be heard at night sleeping, especially if the door was left open). I had booked a fairly nice suite there, so this was disappointing. I offered to leave a video on my phone running to prove it to them, but they said that wasn't necessary and gave me 50% off the 2-day stay.
- Asked for quiet room, awakened at 7am by bizarre dinosaur exhibit out window
TRUE. This occurred at the second hotel I stayed at, in Colorado Springs. I don't believe this was done on purpose, as this was a temporary exhibit, and the front desk probably didn't think of it. Hotel didn't own or operate it -- this was in the lot next door. The exhibit was pretty lame, was aimed at kids, and was expensive when I looked it up. It was one of those drive-through things, and there was a giant line of cars going through. We could hear faint murmurs of the dinosaurs through the window. We assumed that the window was just thick, and the murmurs were actually loud and omious if you were down there. Nope! We went down just to hear what it really sounded like, and it was the same soft murmur! I didn't even mention any of this to the front desk, and obviously got no discount. It was more of an amusment and slight annoyance more than anything else.
- Asked for side "away from road", given direct view of pet food processing plant
TRUE. This occurred in Canon City. We liked the hotel, actually, and this didn't cause any disturbance -- was just funny to see right out the window, including huge bails of hay directly below the window. Didn't mention it to the front desk, no discount expected or received.
- Booked "best" suite in hotel, but it shared a common wall with the elevator
TRUE. This occurred in Montrose, in the middle of the trip. I was initially disappointed to see that my "away from elevator, high floor" request was ignored, and I was placed "right next to the elevator". I always call hotels day-of-stay around noon, to make sure I'm placed in a room location I want (otherwise I get last choice when I check in), but I was told that there were only 4 suites of this type, and the other 3 were checked in the prior day, and they weren't leaving. So I was stuck with this. What I didn't realize was the fact that the room wasn't just next to the elevator -- it shared a common wall with the elevator, and we heard the elevator dinging all night! How could they build a suite in that location? Dumb. Also, the room was poorly cleaned, as we found hairs and other nastiness around the room. Additionaly bizarre was that they were short pillows, because some guest requested 8 extra pillows, so they weren't able to put the correct number in our room. The excuse was true, as I saw those 8 pillows being dragged up as I checked in! I complained to the manager upon checkout, and got 50% off. The manager was nice about it, and said she completely understood why I was unhappy. Was only a 1-night stay anyway.
- Faulty rooftop exhaust fan caused our room to vibrate with low-pitch buzz all night
TRUE. This one was the worst situation. This occurred in Durango. Once again, my request to be on a high floor, away from the elevator was ignored, but unlike the last time, there were plenty of correct rooms which they could assign me. Someone just fucked up and ignored the instruction, and I was unable to call that day during the afternoon because we were doing stuff and were out of service. I was given the bad news upon arrival that they had to place me near the elevator. This was a 2-night stay, and I was frustrated, but accepted it. However, around 10pm we noticed a weird, super-low-pitched, bass-heavy "hum" coming from what seemed to be the wall. However, when we put our ears to the wall, we didn't hear it any louder. Also, on the extreme ends of the room, you couldn't hear it at all. It was unfortunately worst near the beds, where it was both loud and REALLY annoying. Imagine that going on for hours, and trying to sleep through such a thing. My girlfriend said she "felt it in her soul", and couldn't imagine being able to fall asleep like this. When I called the front desk, they said they had "heard some complaints before" about this, but had never heard it themselves. They went to "investigate", but came up with nothing, even after turning off the ice machine and a hallway A/C, to see if it would help. It didn't. Then after a long time, they told me they found it was "the place next door", and said they'd try to get that place to turn off whatever was doing it. But then after another 45 mins or so, they called me to say that it wasn't the place next door, and they didn't know what it was. In the meantime, we found some reviews online from the prior month, where two different people complained about this exact problem. One of the reviewers said it was an exhaust fan on the roof, and that the rooms directly below experienced this issue. This reviewer also said that it was an "ongoing dispute with the vendor, and they won't fix it because the vendor hasn't been paid". Ugh. Finally I moved rooms, but by then it was well after 1am, and everyone was tired and hated the whole thing. We were completely unpacked and it was a big pain to pack again and move, especially since one person had already fallen asleep and had to be awakened to move (the rest of us couldn't sleep through this). I spoke to the manager the next day. She was extremely rude and dismissive. She denied the problem existed, but refused to read the prior reviews, or to come up and listen for herself. She didn't care that the place was dirty. She didn't care that I was given a room in the wrong location in the first place. She didn't care that I had to move rooms to get away from this awfulness (and the only one left was also loud -- right over the road). I had booked the room with points. She refused to refund my points for the night, which was 22,000 worth. Instead, she laughably offered me 500 points, which is worth $3! LOL!! I threatened to make a complaint to the corporation about her (this was a franchised hotel operating under a corporate banner), and said I'd contact those other two reviewers and we'd make a joint complaint. This actually rattled her, and she claimed I was "extorting" money out of her. When I told her that I had every right to make a joint complaint if several of us had the same problem, she gave up on the "extortion" argument. Eventually she hung up on me and told me to pound sand. I made a complaint to the corporation, who unfortunately didn't give a shit, as I expected. However, the corporation did give me back my points. I believe that one reviewer that some rooms have this awful problem, but they simply deny it and pretend to investigate it in order to semi-pacify the guest, and don't want to take those rooms out of service during high season. As I mentioned, I left a day early, and I got my points back from the corporation for the first night, so at least it didn't cost me anything, other than lots of aggravation.
- Malfunctioning building fire alarm rang 5 times between 1am and 8am, manager refused bill adjustment
FALSE. This didn't happen.
- Hotel with 500+ rooms had no restaurants open except buffet and overpriced steakhouse open 4-8pm
TRUE. This was the Monarch in the casino town Black Hawk. This was a very nice, new hotel, and I was very impressed with it. Extremely modern, well appointed, and the casino even had a free drink machine which anyone could use at any time. The one downside? The food situation was HORRIBLE. They had some poorly rated, overpriced steakhosue only open during the evening. The other choice was a horrible buffet, which again was overpriced. That was it. The one coffee shop (also poorly rated) was closed for renovation. I had never seen such poor food choices at a nice, full service hotel. This was a big problem in Black Hawk, in general. Very few restaurants anywhere, especially open after 9, despite it being a casino town. Not even a name brand or independent single fast food joint anywhere! The few places to eat in the entire town were terribly rated, and super crowded. I ended up doing takeout from a short-order fast food type of place at Isle, which is a Casears property across the street from Monarch. I was able to dodge the line by being Diamond, otherwise would've been like an hour long. Just a horrendous food situation in the entire town. Did not ask for any kind of discount.
- Hotel which appeared to be mountaniside resort turned out to be weird college dorm like campus
TRUE. This occurred in Aspen. The pictures of the grounds were very misleading. When I got there, I was pretty surprised to see it looked a lot like a college campus (but wasn't), and the rooms were like large dorms! It was large and clean, but extremely dorm-like with simple furniture. Worst yet, there was no A/C, and a notice on the wall that "A/C isn't needed in Aspen", but then gave you all kinds of advice regarding ventilating the room during the summer, so it looked like bullshit. I found out that it was built a long time ago, but it was renovated in the 1990s, so it was a huge mistake not to install A/C during that time. The first day was cool and cloudy, but the second was sunny and warm, and indeed the place got hot. Even worse, we were on the first floor instead of the second, despite a promise that I would be on the second when I booked it. They acknowledged a "mistake" which caused this to happen, and the front desk agent was perplexed, stating, "We don't have elevators, most people don't want the second floor, I see the promise made to you, I don't understand why they assigned you the first level." The first floor was quite noisy, and I didn't feel comfortable leaving windows open when we were out, as I was afraid people could break in and steal things. When I checked out, I asked for the manager. I happened to have an "LA Dodgers World Champion 2020" shirt on, which amazingly worked to my benefit, despite being in Colorado. The manager was former MLB scout, and was happy to see I was a baseball fan, and we spent a little time talking about the 2021 season. He then said that he "usually would offer about 20% off in this situation", but gave me 50%, presumably because he liked me and my baseball fandom. Nice. I wasn't expecting 50%. Laughably, as I was walking out, I heard a front desk employee talking to a guy checking in, who was complaining that last time it was "really hot". The employee replied, "We still have that problem, but we're about to start another renovation, and A/C will be installed this time." So much for not needing A/C in Aspen!
- Charming log cabin turned out to be a motorhome with maintenance issues
TRUE. I booked what looked like a charming, no-frills, but rustic cabin in northern Arizona, kinda near the north end of the Grand Canyon. I was disappointed to see it was actually a motor home! There were other cabins there, but those were the smaller units. The two larger ones were motorhomes. Ugh. Even worse, it had lots of issues with the locks. The front door wouldn't lock from the outside without a ton of effort (which worried me as we were going to dinner, but I finally got it locked after about 5-10 minutes of fucking with it), and the bedroom doorknob was completely broken, to where it wouldn't turn, and you'd lock yourself in if you closed the door! Fortunately we discovered this before closing it, but we had a few close calls with someone accidentally almost closing it. The front desk was never open due to "COVID", and they simply leave the room open for you at check-in, so you never see anyone. I complained by e-mail, and they said, "Thanks for letting us know, we will fix this." When I asked for some money BACK for both this and the motorhome surprise (which was overpriced for what I got), they offered me 33% off. I asked for 50%, and they snap accepted.
This was not an exhaustive list of hotels where we stayed. There were a few others where nothing shitty/unusual happened, and I didn't list here.
I won’t belabor my point. You must be the most unlucky traveler ever. That is all.
It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?
Brother what’s with the obsession with “room location”? I’ve been all over the world and stayed at hotels from 0 stars - 5 stars, never once called it put in a special “requests for room location
Don’t remember ever having an issue
Here's what you do to ensure a pleasurable holiday. You stay at one of the cities finer establishments. An establishment that requires no online reviews from god knows who.
Example (A)
Actually limitles has a point for once.
This trip had the worst record for hotel fails that I've ever encountered. It might be due to the poor quality of help they're getting nowadays, because nobody wants to work.
I had a similar length trip in 2015, which only had one problem the entire time -- a broken toilet at the second-to-last place. This time it was one thing after another.
Even the two late checkouts I had tthis tmie were fails, as both involved failures of the front desk to properly notify staff, and we kept getting hassled why we weren't out yet, even after trying to tell them we had late checkout. I didn't even bother listing those.
So to answer jsearles' question, I was really unlucky this time, yes.
To answer Pipes, room location is important to me because I'm not an early riser. Therefore, if you don't want to be repeatedly awakened by loud people in the hall, dinging elevators, and road noise, you need to get a room away from all that. If you wake up at 6am, eat 4 raw eggs, and then are out in the lounge chair with your balls catching the 7am sun, then this doesn't really apply. Understand?
Back to limites' point. Yes, the nicest places in town typically don't have these problems, though sometimes they do. For example, the place I stayed in Denver was a fairly expensive downtown hotel, and unfortunately I lucked into the bubbling toilet. However, I will say that some of this fail was probably more likely to occur at the midgrade hotels I booked than at a luxury property.
The problem is that expensive hotels really add up when you take a long road trip, so I resist doing that, except when I notice I'm getting such a good deal that it doesn't make sense not to do it. (For example, if a midgrade hotel is $150, and a great luxury hotel is $225, 100% I'm going with the more expensvie one.)
However, I did walk away from this trip wondering if it's simply time to bite the bullet and start staying in more upper grade hotels, as shit like this was somewhat of a downer to deal with.
Yes! For once, according Dan the cheap bastard complainant, I'm correct.
In life you get what you pay for and you get what you deserve.
Brother no I do not understand. You are accusing Nicky Pipes of sleeping in until 6 AM? Brother what do you not understand about deep ocean swims before sunrise? What’s the confusion about 8 rounds on the heavy bag to Bas Rutten boxing tape?
Brother I do not think you meant to disrespect Pipes, so I will let those one “slide”
Brother Nicky Pipes does not “lay in bed” all morning “worrying” about “ noise” from the elevator
Brother did you forget that Nicky Pipes conducts business globally? Do you know how many business associates of mine are in Asia or Europe?
You are not conducting business in China? Read the news lately? Might want to get in on that market pal.
Do you understand? Yes or no?
Brother no I do not understand. You are accusing Nicky Pipes of sleeping in until 6 AM? Brother what do you not understand about deep ocean swims before sunrise? What’s the confusion about 8 rounds on the heavy bahg to Bas Rutten boxing tape?
Brother I do not think you meant to disrespect Pipes, so I will let those one “slide”
Brother Nicky Pipes does not “lay in bed” all morning “worrying” about “ noise” from the elevator
Brother did you forget that Nicky Pipes conducts business globally? Do you know how many business associates of mine are in Asia or Europe?
You are not conducting business in China? Read the news lately? Might want to get in on that market pal.
Do you understand? Yes or no?
Get Heeeem
Last edited by limitles; 08-18-2021 at 06:22 PM.
Brother, I assumed the Nicky Pipes lifestyle included some relaxation during vacation time. Otherwise Pipes cannot recharge and become the best man he can be.Brother no I do not understand. You are accusing Nicky Pipes of sleeping in until 6 AM? Brother what do you not understand about deep ocean swims before sunrise? What’s the confusion about 8 rounds on the heavy bag to Bas Rutten boxing tape?
Brother I do not think you meant to disrespect Pipes, so I will let those one “slide”
Brother Nicky Pipes does not “lay in bed” all morning “worrying” about “ noise” from the elevator
Brother did you forget that Nicky Pipes conducts business globally? Do you know how many business associates of mine are in Asia or Europe?
You are not conducting business in China? Read the news lately? Might want to get in on that market pal.
Do you understand? Yes or no?
Getting up before 6am while on vacation does not sound like part of the Nicky Pipes lifestyle, nor does tolerating a hotel room with a noisy location. I would think Nicky Pipes would want the best room in the joint.
Do you understand?
The only time I’m waking up at 6am on vacation is because the bitch I’m with wants to blow me. Do you understand brother?Brother, I assumed the Nicky Pipes lifestyle included some relaxation during vacation time. Otherwise Pipes cannot recharge and become the best man he can be.
Getting up before 6am while on vacation does not sound like part of the Nicky Pipes lifestyle, nor does tolerating a hotel room with a noisy location. I would think Nicky Pipes would want the best room in the joint.
Do you understand?
See if you can name this location Druff.
Did some four wheeling up that dirt trail up to 7900 ft. lol rental cars
Won’t lie. Still gonna miss the fall Vegas trip. Strange times
Is that Garden of the Gods?
Drones are illegal there as Colorado Springs is huge military site. Thought that was interesting.
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