thats a terrible take bcr, if you are a 20 year old billionaire you'd be more than capable of finding your own 19 year olds without having to associate with a convicted pedo
So Gates was childhood friends with Microsoft cofounder Paul Allen. Paul Allen owned the Trail Blazers and Seahawks.
Gates was a monumental dick with Allen. He tried to get an ever larger percentage of ownership from Allen as he became sick with Hodgekins lymphoma and had to lighten his workload. Gates argued he worked harder. His crummy BASIC compiler was a core element in their code, he said, and many other weasel excuses to chisel Allen. Gates wanted him to surrender a percentage of his shares and Allen did.
Just a quick example.
Gates made kludgey product too. He was headed to hell for that alone.
I just mean when I was in my twenties, no one knew what Epstein was. That kind of came out post-Clinton. I was nearing 30 by then. It’s only in recent years I’ve seen any allegations that would be actual pedo shit. Back when it was vague rumors of some 17 year old.
I just mean I would have been in the room partying with Victoria Secrets models if I was in my twenties and he was Wexners guy which means Victoria’s Secret models. I would have been out if I saw a kid.
Does this even harm Gates?
Like I think we are post-standards. I mean we had Clinton leaving with 70% approval. We had Trump paying off porn stars at 65 years old. Gaetz only problem is if he transported underage girls across state lines.
I mean it’s a blow to his image, but he was always an atheist charitable guy. Short of straight up pedophilia or something illegal, does it matter? I don’t think anything matters anymore. It’s not like some African country isn’t going to take his help. If he was still running the company, it would be problematic.
I hope Maxwell makes it to trial and we ever find out.
Epstein’s kids were not Victoria’s Secrets models. They weren’t stunning.
Their appeal was their compliance and their age. Maybe they were compliant because they were so vulnerable. You ever see pictures of these kids? I think Netflix did a covid era documentary where the girls (who are now 30+ and still unattractive) were interviewed. Childhood pictures and pictures the girls had of that era were hardly irresistible.
Unless you like that stuff and some guys do.
The origin stories of tech back in the day are amazing and very often sad. Their were many victims.
Gates arc will not be a Greek Trajedy. He was consistently a dick. A hard working dick I’ll grant you.
The Cisco chick (founder) is another personal favorite.
Yeah, I’ve watched a few things, but clearly I’ve got the wrong picture of what he was about. Like he seemed to become more demented as time went on. I mean, if you’re a freak billionaire, can’t you find compliant troubled girls? Sklansky seems to have no problem with .001 of the bankroll.
I guess I just assume an Epstein party in 1990 when I was 20 would have been a room of beautiful women. Maybe I have that way off.
I guess when you’re talking princes and titans of business, I assumed it started out as beautiful women and skewed more dark as time went on. Some troubled vulnerable girl doesn’t seem hard to procure if you’re into that.
All I ask is that you consider my argument that Gates was an organic dick. He was a dick before the money. I related the Paul Allen story. Childhood friend. Co-founder . Brain cancer. Gates was a ruthless dick.
Gates is famous for supplying DOS to IBM. Gates did not write DOS. He bought it/stole it from Gary Kildall (if I recall). Suicide resulted. Good times.
I can go on and on.
I am queued up with Steve Ballmer. Someone is gonna interview him.
I don’t feel like I’m arguing for Gates? I guess I just am not ready to call him a pedophile until he’s a pedophile. Like that’s the worst thing in the world. A lot of people need killed. No kids need touched,
You’ve made your point on shitty human who tried to use charity to cover up a multitude of sin, that seems easy to believe.
I have no attraction to markedly younger girls than myself. Never have. I know many men do, but being a shit human being who cheats on his wife is pretty standard amongst CEO’s. A damn pedophile is a way different story. You seem invested in convincing me he’s a horrible human. I believe you. Clearly I just knew Microsoft guy who had business issues and appeared charitable
I’m sorry you had to hear it from me first.
What’s notable is that Gates became a better person apparently post Microsoft. He worked hard on his philanthropy and has done real good for humans. Intended to divest all his wealth.
Now the lawyers will get the money that might have been used to make drinking water safe in California and Africa.
There comes a point where a persons cynicism is tested. That’s where I find myself. Did Gates embark on philanthropy cause foregoing all his wealth was infinitely better than prison. Was he contrite? This was setting up to be some serious ass shit. He read the papers. Epstein’s trials. Was he proactively atoning with the world by trying to make peoples lives better? Cause he has. Big time.
Or was he just being a good guy?
Cause if he felt he had The Sword of Damocles hanging over his head.... that just gives me the chills.
The world will struggle with their judgement.
I’m going to ask Druff for some time off.
I need to see if Reddit has anything constructive. Signal to noise issues there. Generally nobody is old enough to know anything but iPhone settings
Funny ass comments always though.
Splitty's deadbeat ex-husband paid her $1,000 for a blowjob. So what does Bill have to pay Melinda? At least $10 million, right?
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Gates has the look of a rich man with some sick and deviant sexual fetishes. We can only guess what “weird” stuff he got into with Jerry Epps
I've mentioned this before regarding Epstein, but I feel it bears mentioning again because of the Gates thing.
I'm not really a Gates fan. I'm aware of the same stories of ruthlessness that Sanlmar has told, and I also hate his general attitude of, "I'm super rich, I give to charity, therefore all other super rich people need to be taxed at insane rates to force them to give to charity like I do." I hate when rich people demand that others spend their money the same way they do. I admire his dedication to charity, and he's done a lot of good with his money, but his attempt to force this upon other super rich people is obnoxious.
Anyway, there's a huge difference between a pedo (one who seeks out underage girls) and a guy who just bangs girls who are underage when the opportunity falls in his lap. Both are wrong, but one is far worse than the other.
Let's say you tried this experiment:
Take a very attractive 16-year-old who is fully developed physically, and send her on the streets to hit on 1000 random men over 40. A surprisingly high percentage of them would be up for it. Some simply wouldn't ask questions (perhaps intentionally) about her age. But even if she stated at some point she was 16, a lot of them would still go through with it. However, of those men who went through with it, only a small percentage would have otherwise seeked out underage girls for sex.
Going back to Epstein, it appears that he would procure underage girls to show up to his parties (probably with the help of Maxwell), who would then be expected to bang the guys there. I think a lot of the guys at the parties simply didn't ask questions, or even if they knew, reasoned to themselves that the girls were there having fun, and nobody was really getting hurt. Again, I'm not defending this, but a guy having sex with a 16-year-old at an Epstein party isn't necessarily a "pedo" -- just a guy thinking with the wrong head, who is not asking himself why these girls are there, and why they're agreeing to this sort of thing.
I doubt it will ever come out that Bill Gates was a Jared Fogle type pedo who was intentionally seeking out young girls for sex. At worst, it will come out that Gates was one of many powerful men who attended an Epstein party, found lots of young girls ready and willing to have sex, and shrugged his shoulders and went with it.
@Druff
There was nothing about Epstein’s kids appearance of manner that was alluring or attractive.
These weren’t girls who were super developed or matured early. There were no “very attractive 16 year olds” They were kids from the West Palm beach high school who were previously inexperienced. Trailer trash kids who needed $ for the mall.
There are plenty of pictures. They had that cute young kid look. “Fresh and low mileage”. Nobody looked like Brooke Shields at 16.
You knew what you were getting. They were available and compliant like so much canapés and shrimp cocktail.
I’m not buying any of this argument. The atmosphere was exclusive and exuded power and privilege. Normal rules didn’t apply.
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These girls being young was a central element in Epstein’s scheme.
He accrued his wealth through blackmail - i.e. Epstein clarified any confusion you might have had that the kids were underage and that a donation to the Epstein charity was in order so that discretion could be maintained and they could remain pals.
Otherwise, continuing membership in the underage girl circle of power and celebrity would require co mingling of fortunes.
I contend nobody, and I mean nobody, suffered any confusion about age. Getting reported at these high falutin levels of power and money was otherwise inconceivable.
Who facing cares. Two old billionaires do what fifty per cent of the population does. Big fucking deal.
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