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    Coke, MLB and Georgia...

    So now the all star game is going to Colorado that has even more strict voter laws. And that 100 million revenue in Georgia impacted black owned business there as well.

    Dumb move MLB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    So now the all star game is going to Colorado that has even more strict voter laws. And Kai g that 100 million revenue in Georgia impacted black owned business there as well.

    Dumb move MLB.
    It’s actually shocking how often you’re wrong.

    There's a major difference between the states, though: Colorado votes by mail. Every registered voter receives a ballot about 15 to 20 days before the election. And instead of waiting in line at a polling station, the vast majority simply drop the ballot in a mailbox or a secure dropbox.

    The Georgia law also bans mobile voting centers, and it strictly limits the use of dropboxes. This is another area where Colorado is moving in the opposite direction. Colorado had one dropbox per 9,400 active registered voters for the last election, with the secretary of state boasting about adding scores of new locations in the past few years. Georgia has now set a cap of one box per 100,000 active registered voters.

    Colorado does not require identification for mail voting once a person is registered. Instead, the state mails a ballot to the person's home, and then matches their signature against a database when the ballot is returned.

    In Georgia, the new law bans "any person" from distributing food or water within 150 feet of a polling place or within 25 feet of a voter standing in line at a polling place. In Colorado, the state says that "comfort teams" may provide food and water, as long as they don't promote a political candidate or cause.
    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    So now the all star game is going to Colorado that has even more strict voter laws. And Kai g that 100 million revenue in Georgia impacted black owned business there as well.

    Dumb move MLB.
    It’s actually shocking how often you’re wrong.

    There's a major difference between the states, though: Colorado votes by mail. Every registered voter receives a ballot about 15 to 20 days before the election. And instead of waiting in line at a polling station, the vast majority simply drop the ballot in a mailbox or a secure dropbox.

    The Georgia law also bans mobile voting centers, and it strictly limits the use of dropboxes. This is another area where Colorado is moving in the opposite direction. Colorado had one dropbox per 9,400 active registered voters for the last election, with the secretary of state boasting about adding scores of new locations in the past few years. Georgia has now set a cap of one box per 100,000 active registered voters.

    Colorado does not require identification for mail voting once a person is registered. Instead, the state mails a ballot to the person's home, and then matches their signature against a database when the ballot is returned.

    In Georgia, the new law bans "any person" from distributing food or water within 150 feet of a polling place or within 25 feet of a voter standing in line at a polling place. In Colorado, the state says that "comfort teams" may provide food and water, as long as they don't promote a political candidate or cause.
    Team Retard talking points simply don't suffice here.

    It's flagrantly obvious that the Georgia laws were passed as a result of the GOP getting bodied in 2020, and the impetus behind them getting passed was Trump falsely claiming there was rampant fraud because he couldn't handle losing. You know, fascist shit. Not sure why Team Retard can't just accept this. Anything beyond the ID requirement is laughable on its face, and Republicans should rightly be dragged for blatantly suppressing votes. Have a better platform maybe?

    How many needless court cases related to this alleged fraud were there? How many held up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    So now the all star game is going to Colorado that has even more strict voter laws. And Kai g that 100 million revenue in Georgia impacted black owned business there as well.

    Dumb move MLB.
    It’s actually shocking how often you’re wrong.

    There's a major difference between the states, though: Colorado votes by mail. Every registered voter receives a ballot about 15 to 20 days before the election. And instead of waiting in line at a polling station, the vast majority simply drop the ballot in a mailbox or a secure dropbox.

    The Georgia law also bans mobile voting centers, and it strictly limits the use of dropboxes. This is another area where Colorado is moving in the opposite direction. Colorado had one dropbox per 9,400 active registered voters for the last election, with the secretary of state boasting about adding scores of new locations in the past few years. Georgia has now set a cap of one box per 100,000 active registered voters.

    Colorado does not require identification for mail voting once a person is registered. Instead, the state mails a ballot to the person's home, and then matches their signature against a database when the ballot is returned.

    In Georgia, the new law bans "any person" from distributing food or water within 150 feet of a polling place or within 25 feet of a voter standing in line at a polling place. In Colorado, the state says that "comfort teams" may provide food and water, as long as they don't promote a political candidate or cause.


    Well, the last part is wrong. The rest is misleading.

    Here's an explanation about the food and water thing from Politifact, which is a left-leaning fact checking organziation:

    Poll workers can set up self-serve water stations.
    .
    .
    The law makes it a misdemeanor to give away food or water within 150 feet of the outer edge of a polling place building or within 25 feet of any voter in line. Violations of this law are punishable by up to a year in jail and a $1,000 fine. While people other than poll workers can give away food or water, they have to adhere to these boundaries to avoid breaking the law.
    So the Georgia law allows poll workers to set up unattended water stations/tables, and these poll workers can also go back and replenish the water when it runs out.

    The law is clearly aimed at stopping political organizations from making it public that they'll be handing out food/water to people in line, and thus influencing the vote. Rather than trying to define what a "political organization" is -- which is incredibly difficult to codify into law -- they simply make it illegal to distribute food/water to people within 150 feet of the polling place, but allows poll workers to set up water stations.

    This makes a lot of sense. It's not hard to picture Democratic-leaning organizations claiming that the white GOP establishment is purposely making the poll lines long in order to dissuade black voting, and that these sweet organizations are going to provide food and cold water for those stuck in those unfair lines. You think that might influence some people? Obviously it would.

    Regarding the rest of your statement, it is mostly factually accurate, but you are leaving out key details.

    "Mobile voting centers" are buses that drove around Atlanta in order to make it "easier" for people to vote. On the surface, this appears to be a great way to get more people voting. However, like all things in politics, it was a political trick to help Democrats, using the cover of COVID to justify it. First off, it's important to note that these mobile voting centers didn't exist prior to 2020, so Georgia isn't overturning a longstanding tradition. It was allowed in 2020 as an exception due to COVID, but wasn't necessarily meant to become a permanent voting option.

    But what's wrong with them? Simply put, these are run at the county level, and can easily be abused to give certain areas a voting advantage over others. These buses only ran in Fulton County, which is 67.7% Democratic. Smaller counties can't necessarily afford to run these. Unless you want to state that Fulton County should have an advantage over the rest of the state, in statewide and national elections, then these buses aren't fair. Furthermore, these buses can be manipulated by county officials to park closer to voters they want to see voting, and to not spend as much time in areas where they'd rather see less voting. I'm sure you see the potential problems here. It made sense during 2020 COVID, but not anymore.

    And what about the drop boxes? This was another 2020 COVID addition. They didn't exist in 2019. Yes, the law limits the number of them, but again, it's basically Georgia saying that they didn't want temporary COVID changes to be permanent, and that makes sense. So this is kind of a middle ground, which leaves some drop boxes, and limits their existence to normal voting hours, but doesn't eliminate them. Honestly if it were up to me, I'd just leave the drop boxes the way they were, but I can understand why Georgia wants to try to get people back to in-person voting, as it always was prior to 2020. There's also nothing racist about this decision.

    Regarding what you stated about Colorado, it's correct. I don't like their system. Universal mail-in balloting sucks, for reasons I've stated before. Still, the fact remains that you can't register to vote in Colorado without ID, and voter ID is supposed to be super duper racist, according to Democrats. So shouldn't that make Colorado's law racist? BTW, the complaint from Dems isn't that people have to show ID every time they vote. It's that you need ID in order to vote, so anyone who never got ID (or didn't register to vote while they had ID) wouldn't be able to vote in Colorado, either.

    Then there's the bizarre fact that Cobb County, where Truist Park (Braves stadium) is located, is 28.8% black, and voted Democratic in both 2016 and 2020. So MLB is punishing a county with a disproportionately high black population, supposedly to help black people. Makes loads of sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post

    It’s actually shocking how often you’re wrong.

    There's a major difference between the states, though: Colorado votes by mail. Every registered voter receives a ballot about 15 to 20 days before the election. And instead of waiting in line at a polling station, the vast majority simply drop the ballot in a mailbox or a secure dropbox.

    The Georgia law also bans mobile voting centers, and it strictly limits the use of dropboxes. This is another area where Colorado is moving in the opposite direction. Colorado had one dropbox per 9,400 active registered voters for the last election, with the secretary of state boasting about adding scores of new locations in the past few years. Georgia has now set a cap of one box per 100,000 active registered voters.

    Colorado does not require identification for mail voting once a person is registered. Instead, the state mails a ballot to the person's home, and then matches their signature against a database when the ballot is returned.

    In Georgia, the new law bans "any person" from distributing food or water within 150 feet of a polling place or within 25 feet of a voter standing in line at a polling place. In Colorado, the state says that "comfort teams" may provide food and water, as long as they don't promote a political candidate or cause.
    Team Retard talking points simply don't suffice here.

    It's flagrantly obvious that the Georgia laws were passed as a result of the GOP getting bodied in 2020, and the impetus behind them getting passed was Trump falsely claiming there was rampant fraud because he couldn't handle losing. You know, fascist shit. Not sure why Team Retard can't just accept this. Anything beyond the ID requirement is laughable on its face, and Republicans should rightly be dragged for blatantly suppressing votes. Have a better platform maybe?

    How many needless court cases related to this alleged fraud were there? How many held up?
    The GOP lost in 2020 because:

    1) Trump was acting like a crazy person

    2) The media successfully spun it to the public that COVID was Trump's fault

    3) Idiots in the Republican Party in Georgia were too obsessed with the "stolen election" nonsense rather than the runoff, and didn't focus on the real task at hand

    4) The two Republican Senate candidates sucked (especially Loeffler)


    I expect Republicans to get back those seats next time.

    Read my explanation in the post above as to why the changes weren't "racist". Also, if you think Democrats really care about "voter rights" and "fairness", you're very gullible. Of course each party is going to push for voter laws which benefit them. That's politics. Anyone who extends that to racism isn't understanding what politics is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post

    It’s actually shocking how often you’re wrong.

    There's a major difference between the states, though: Colorado votes by mail. Every registered voter receives a ballot about 15 to 20 days before the election. And instead of waiting in line at a polling station, the vast majority simply drop the ballot in a mailbox or a secure dropbox.

    The Georgia law also bans mobile voting centers, and it strictly limits the use of dropboxes. This is another area where Colorado is moving in the opposite direction. Colorado had one dropbox per 9,400 active registered voters for the last election, with the secretary of state boasting about adding scores of new locations in the past few years. Georgia has now set a cap of one box per 100,000 active registered voters.

    Colorado does not require identification for mail voting once a person is registered. Instead, the state mails a ballot to the person's home, and then matches their signature against a database when the ballot is returned.

    In Georgia, the new law bans "any person" from distributing food or water within 150 feet of a polling place or within 25 feet of a voter standing in line at a polling place. In Colorado, the state says that "comfort teams" may provide food and water, as long as they don't promote a political candidate or cause.


    Well, the last part is wrong. The rest is misleading.

    Here's an explanation about the food and water thing from Politifact, which is a left-leaning fact checking organziation:

    Poll workers can set up self-serve water stations.
    .
    .
    The law makes it a misdemeanor to give away food or water within 150 feet of the outer edge of a polling place building or within 25 feet of any voter in line. Violations of this law are punishable by up to a year in jail and a $1,000 fine. While people other than poll workers can give away food or water, they have to adhere to these boundaries to avoid breaking the law.
    So the Georgia law allows poll workers to set up unattended water stations/tables, and these poll workers can also go back and replenish the water when it runs out.

    The law is clearly aimed at stopping political organizations from making it public that they'll be handing out food/water to people in line, and thus influencing the vote. Rather than trying to define what a "political organization" is -- which is incredibly difficult to codify into law -- they simply make it illegal to distribute food/water to people within 150 feet of the polling place, but allows poll workers to set up water stations.

    This makes a lot of sense. It's not hard to picture Democratic-leaning organizations claiming that the white GOP establishment is purposely making the poll lines long in order to dissuade black voting, and that these sweet organizations are going to provide food and cold water for those stuck in those unfair lines. You think that might influence some people? Obviously it would.

    Regarding the rest of your statement, it is mostly factually accurate, but you are leaving out key details.

    "Mobile voting centers" are buses that drove around Atlanta in order to make it "easier" for people to vote. On the surface, this appears to be a great way to get more people voting. However, like all things in politics, it was a political trick to help Democrats, using the cover of COVID to justify it. First off, it's important to note that these mobile voting centers didn't exist prior to 2020, so Georgia isn't overturning a longstanding tradition. It was allowed in 2020 as an exception due to COVID, but wasn't necessarily meant to become a permanent voting option.

    But what's wrong with them? Simply put, these are run at the county level, and can easily be abused to give certain areas a voting advantage over others. These buses only ran in Fulton County, which is 67.7% Democratic. Smaller counties can't necessarily afford to run these. Unless you want to state that Fulton County should have an advantage over the rest of the state, in statewide and national elections, then these buses aren't fair. Furthermore, these buses can be manipulated by county officials to park closer to voters they want to see voting, and to not spend as much time in areas where they'd rather see less voting. I'm sure you see the potential problems here. It made sense during 2020 COVID, but not anymore.

    And what about the drop boxes? This was another 2020 COVID addition. They didn't exist in 2019. Yes, the law limits the number of them, but again, it's basically Georgia saying that they didn't want temporary COVID changes to be permanent, and that makes sense. So this is kind of a middle ground, which leaves some drop boxes, and limits their existence to normal voting hours, but doesn't eliminate them. Honestly if it were up to me, I'd just leave the drop boxes the way they were, but I can understand why Georgia wants to try to get people back to in-person voting, as it always was prior to 2020. There's also nothing racist about this decision.

    Regarding what you stated about Colorado, it's correct. I don't like their system. Universal mail-in balloting sucks, for reasons I've stated before. Still, the fact remains that you can't register to vote in Colorado without ID, and voter ID is supposed to be super duper racist, according to Democrats. So shouldn't that make Colorado's law racist? BTW, the complaint from Dems isn't that people have to show ID every time they vote. It's that you need ID in order to vote, so anyone who never got ID (or didn't register to vote while they had ID) wouldn't be able to vote in Colorado, either.

    Then there's the bizarre fact that Cobb County, where Truist Park (Braves stadium) is located, is 28.8% black, and voted Democratic in both 2016 and 2020. So MLB is punishing a county with a disproportionately high black population, supposedly to help black people. Makes loads of sense.

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    Pretty big wall of text trying to muddy the waters. Simply, which state has more strict or stringent voting laws presently?
    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post

    Team Retard talking points simply don't suffice here.

    It's flagrantly obvious that the Georgia laws were passed as a result of the GOP getting bodied in 2020, and the impetus behind them getting passed was Trump falsely claiming there was rampant fraud because he couldn't handle losing. You know, fascist shit. Not sure why Team Retard can't just accept this. Anything beyond the ID requirement is laughable on its face, and Republicans should rightly be dragged for blatantly suppressing votes. Have a better platform maybe?

    How many needless court cases related to this alleged fraud were there? How many held up?
    The GOP lost in 2020 because:

    1) Trump was acting like a crazy person

    2) The media successfully spun it to the public that COVID was Trump's fault

    3) Idiots in the Republican Party in Georgia were too obsessed with the "stolen election" nonsense rather than the runoff, and didn't focus on the real task at hand

    4) The two Republican Senate candidates sucked (especially Loeffler)


    I expect Republicans to get back those seats next time.

    Read my explanation in the post above as to why the changes weren't "racist". Also, if you think Democrats really care about "voter rights" and "fairness", you're very gullible. Of course each party is going to push for voter laws which benefit them. That's politics. Anyone who extends that to racism isn't understanding what politics is.
    I never said it was racist. Do you even read anymore?

    It was done to actively suppress Democrat voters, who happen to be black. The racist claim only distracts from that.

    It was fueled by lies from Trump, and successfully passed. It goes against the basic principles of democracy.

    Obviously designed to help the GOP recoup their losses. Your party taking measures to actively prevent voting is disgraceful and anti-American.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post

    Pretty big wall of text trying to muddy the waters. Simply, which state has more strict or stringent voting laws presently?
    My wall of text was answering the points you raised. I had a feeling you wouldn't have much of a response to that.

    Neither state has "more strict laws" because they're so different. Colorado is universal mail-in, Georgia is not.

    It's like asking, "Which cardroom has stricter rules, Bovada or Commerce?"

    But the "which is stricter" thing is stupid, because it's irrelevant. The Voter ID thing is the biggest sticking point to the new "racist" Georgia law, and was the main reason the All Star Game was moved. And they moved it to... a place with Voter ID laws!

    And they moved it to a lily white county, when it was previously in a 28.8% black county. How many black-owned businesses in Cobb County are going to lose a lot of money because of this? I'm guessing a lot of them.

    Great job! Fight that racism!

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    "The false fraud claims led to the restrictive voter laws" is such a reach.

    Perhaps Georgia simply wanted to set sane voter laws going forward, since so much was temporarily changed for COVID reasons? Ever think of that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    The GOP lost in 2020 because:

    1) Trump was acting like a crazy person

    2) The media successfully spun it to the public that COVID was Trump's fault

    3) Idiots in the Republican Party in Georgia were too obsessed with the "stolen election" nonsense rather than the runoff, and didn't focus on the real task at hand

    4) The two Republican Senate candidates sucked (especially Loeffler)


    I expect Republicans to get back those seats next time.

    Read my explanation in the post above as to why the changes weren't "racist". Also, if you think Democrats really care about "voter rights" and "fairness", you're very gullible. Of course each party is going to push for voter laws which benefit them. That's politics. Anyone who extends that to racism isn't understanding what politics is.
    I never said it was racist. Do you even read anymore?

    It was done to actively suppress Democrat voters, who happen to be black. The racist claim only distracts from that.

    It was fueled by lies from Trump, and successfully passed. It goes against the basic principles of democracy.

    Obviously designed to help the GOP recoup their losses. Your party taking measures to actively prevent voting is disgraceful and anti-American.
    It was not done to actively "suppress" anything, unless you think rolling back temporary 2020 COVID changes to 2019 standards is "suppression".

    Do you believe that the Fulton County Double Dutch Voter Buses were running in order to make voting easy and fun, or do you think perhaps there was a political motivation in a county with 67.7% Democratic voters?

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    I don't understand the drop boxes at all

    Why would you put a middle man between you and the post office?

    Why can't you just drop it in the mail, like every other piece of mail?

    Nothing good can come of the boxes, only bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post

    Pretty big wall of text trying to muddy the waters. Simply, which state has more strict or stringent voting laws presently?
    My wall of text was answering the points you raised. I had a feeling you wouldn't have much of a response to that.

    Neither state has "more strict laws" because they're so different. Colorado is universal mail-in, Georgia is not.

    It's like asking, "Which cardroom has stricter rules, Bovada or Commerce?"

    But the "which is stricter" thing is stupid, because it's irrelevant. The Voter ID thing is the biggest sticking point to the new "racist" Georgia law, and was the main reason the All Star Game was moved. And they moved it to... a place with Voter ID laws!

    And they moved it to a lily white county, when it was previously in a 28.8% black county. How many black-owned businesses in Cobb County are going to lose a lot of money because of this? I'm guessing a lot of them.

    Great job! Fight that racism!
    You’re really dancing now. You don’t like the word strict? Then answer this- which state is it easier to vote in?

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    So now the all star game is going to Colorado that has even more strict voter laws.
    My initial response was to your pet monkey. You’re doing nothing to have his back as of yet.

    Colorado does require some form of ID when voters register for the first time and whenever they vote in person. But the state accepts 16 different forms of identification. The options include common identification cards like a driver's license, U.S. passport or government employee ID — but Colorado also accepts Medicare and Medicaid cards, college IDs, utility bills, bank statements and paychecks.

    Georgia allows only six forms of ID for in-person voting. And the state requires that voters provide a driver's license number, a copy of a state identification card or a Social Security number each time they vote by mail.
    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post

    I never said it was racist. Do you even read anymore?

    It was done to actively suppress Democrat voters, who happen to be black. The racist claim only distracts from that.

    It was fueled by lies from Trump, and successfully passed. It goes against the basic principles of democracy.

    Obviously designed to help the GOP recoup their losses. Your party taking measures to actively prevent voting is disgraceful and anti-American.
    It was not done to actively "suppress" anything, unless you think rolling back temporary 2020 COVID changes to 2019 standards is "suppression".

    Do you believe that the Fulton County Double Dutch Voter Buses were running in order to make voting easy and fun, or do you think perhaps there was a political motivation in a county with 67.7% Democratic voters?
    So you're saying that you don't think it was designed to prevent people from voting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    It was not done to actively "suppress" anything, unless you think rolling back temporary 2020 COVID changes to 2019 standards is "suppression".

    Do you believe that the Fulton County Double Dutch Voter Buses were running in order to make voting easy and fun, or do you think perhaps there was a political motivation in a county with 67.7% Democratic voters?
    So you're saying that you don't think it was designed to prevent people from voting?
    See, that's the simplistic way of thinking which CNN and MSNBC hope will be utilized when analyzing the situation. I guess it's working!

    It isn't an automatic that "more people voting = good". It depends HOW you get these people voting, and whether unfair extra steps are being taken to nudge a certain portion of electorate into casting a vote.

    If the state handed out $100 to each person after they finished voting, that would increase turnout tremendously. But would it be right? Obviously not.

    Voting is a right. However, effortless voting is NOT a right. That's why it's ridiculous when the rollback of COVID-related exceptions in Georgia is considered "suppression". It's also ridiculous to say that a government ID requirement is suppression, when there are far more things you can't do without government ID than voting.

    Take the mobile bus situation I described in a previous post today. On the surface, a mobile bus making it easier to vote seems like a great idea to increase access to voting. But when that bus is only running in one (heavily Democratic) county, and only parking itself in places where Democrats are far more likely to utilize it, then it doesn't become so great, right?

    I've admitted all along that each party is attempting to act in its own interest, so I don't know why you think it's such a gotcha that Republicans passed this law to help them in future elections. Both parties are getting involved with this issue for the exact same reason -- to help themselves.

    It comes down to this:

    Democrats have determined that a certain portion of their base won't vote unless you make it super duper easy and effortless for them, and that they have more of these type of people than Republicans. Therefore, Democrats want voter laws which make it super duper easy and effortless to vote, so as to nudge these lazy voters to the polls.

    Republicans have determined the exact same thing. Thus, they are trying to keep the voting much more standard, to where all of these additional allowances are either eliminated or reduced. They aren't doing this to suppress, but rather because they feel that the Democrats are only pushing this ridiculous shit in order to increase their vote totals.

    I'm glad Sloppy Joe is one of the few Democrats who realizes that this isn't about racism, but he's still stuck on the voter suppression whine, which is very sad.

    Why can't you just admit that both parties are acting in their own interests, and there isn't an obvious line between which rules are reasonable and unreasonable, when it comes to stuff like this?

    Suppression means you're actually preventing people from voting. Nobody is being prevented from voting. Decreased drop boxes, the lack of the Double Dutch Voter Bus, the ID requirement... none of this is preventing people who want to vote from being able to do so in the next election.

    You need to face the fact that a good portion of your party just doesn't feel like voting unless someone holds their hand the whole way and requires zero effort on their part. I see no reason to have to accommodate people like that. People have a funny definition of voting these days.

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    When they start trying to suppress voters so they can steal elections, they can go kill themselves.
    But the Dems already did that.
    No, they did not.

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    So now the all star game is going to Colorado that has even more strict voter laws. And that 100 million revenue in Georgia impacted black owned business there as well.

    Dumb move MLB.
    Every single voter gets a mail-in ballot in Colorado. Nobody needs to show up in person. If you think Georgia should do that, no problem.

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    Coke, MLB and Georgia...

    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post
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    So now the all star game is going to Colorado that has even more strict voter laws. And Kai g that 100 million revenue in Georgia impacted black owned business there as well.

    Dumb move MLB.
    It’s actually shocking how often you’re wrong.
    Really? Team Pedo needs some education. My source is here and she starts at video mark 8:15 and pinpoints it at 10:30...

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    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
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    It’s actually shocking how often you’re wrong.
    Really? Team Pedo needs some education. My source is here and she starts at video mark 8:15 and pinpoints it at 10:30...

    Your obsession with calling people pedos is odd to say the least.
    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post
    Your obsession with calling people pedos is odd to say the least.
    1. The truth hurts.

    2. Funny how you left the topic, guess the facts presented to you were too much and you had to divert. Guess I wasn’t so wrong.

    Amazing how often the liberals in here attack others and when there is a little push back, they cry victim.

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