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    Max Silver claims he was taken for over $140k in premeditated bitcoin scam

    Poker pro Max Silver sent out an alarming tweet today, indicating he had been taken for over $140,000 by a Costa Rican man named Joseph Temon. He claims that Temon goes by the names "Dag", "jdagger", "daggerman", and "Droopydog". (This is NOT the same person as 2000s-era poker pro John D'Agostino, who went by "jdags21", and has never been accused of any wrongdoing.)

    Max made his post on the forum "bitcointalk", because it involves the theft of bitcoin via a sportsbetting scam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5325788.0

    https://twitter.com/#!/x/status/1374162911581646854

    Silver stated that Temon is a "big player in the crypto gaming affiliate space", and he signed up with him on a sportsbetting site in December 2020. After Silver, a sharp bettor, was not allowed to play on that site anymore due to his skill, Temon suggested that he and Max team up and bet together using Temon's existing account on betcoin. Silver claims Temon told him this was a good idea, because he already had high limits established on that account, and it would be a lot easier to use that account than build up limits on a new one in Silver's name.

    Silver agreed, and deposited 2 bitcoin (worth about $112k today) to betcoin on March 2nd, 2021. After a short time, their limits were lowered by betcoin, but Temon allegedly claimed that he could get it cleared up. In the meantime, he encouraged Silver to deposit 0.7 BTC on Temon's account on another site called "bitsler", which Silver did.



    In the process of all of this, they lost about 0.15 BTC betting, so there was 2.55 BTC remaining between the two accounts. I'm sure you know what happened next.

    Temon allegedly cashed out the bitcoin and vanished.

    Silver claims that Temon has given "his side of the story" since then, but it's "full of excuses" and he's refusing to address the issue regarding the money.

    Amazingly, Temon is apparently still an active affiliate with "several crypto gambling sites", where Silver estimates he makes $30k-$50k per month! Silver is offering 20% of any money collected back from Temon here.

    My guess is that Temon is going to hide behind the fact that the account was his, and claim that the bitcoin he withdrew were also his. At the moment, it seems he's not saying anything publicly.

    Silver says he's not even sure if Joseph Temon is the guy's real name!

    Pretty naive to trust someone you don't know in another country to hold that kind of money for you, but Silver claims he gave the guy credit because of his large affiliate revenue, plus the fact that he was established in the crypto affiliate world.

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    I have seen Max a few times doing an interview and I get a good vibe for him in general. He most likely was trying to exploit bad money lines and spreads early and betting as much as humanly possible. This is getting harder and harder to do for a multitude of reasons. A lot of these guys will get offshore credit accounts to bet. What they are doing is easy to spot and they may or may not get paid. It's the price of doing business. Typically whoever gets the sharps an account will have a percentage free-roll of any profits that they make.

    What you can absolutely not do is entrust the money to a post-up operation. Now not only may they not pay you if you win and you will be free-rolled, you may just get rolled straight up like Max did. I don't want to be harsh but I can't believe that Max didn't know any better. There was for too much risk involved here to justify any reward. Frankly, I would be embarrassed if I did this. The money is gone. 100%. He has no recourse. Sucks, but it is what it is.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    I have seen Max a few times doing an interview and I get a good vibe for him in general. He most likely was trying to exploit bad money lines and spreads early and betting as much as humanly possible. This is getting harder and harder to do for a multitude of reasons. A lot of these guys will get offshore credit accounts to bet. What they are doing is easy to spot and they may or may not get paid. It's the price of doing business. Typically whoever gets the sharps an account will have a percentage free-roll of any profits that they make.

    What you can absolutely not do is entrust the money to a post-up operation. Now not only may they not pay you if you win and you will be free-rolled, you may just get rolled straight up like Max did. I don't want to be harsh but I can't believe that Max didn't know any better. There was for too much risk involved here to justify any reward. Frankly, I would be embarrassed if I did this. The money is gone. 100%. He has no recourse. Sucks, but it is what it is.

    It is baffling how easy these guys get beat for huge $um$..u summed it up 100%.
    Pigs get slaughtered...
    They shd of spread the $ out like manure over 10-15 sites.. they knew this.
    Hungry dogs.
    You cannot beat the system.
    My advice to 90% of folks is simple..
    Stay w/a Local or go to a Casino.
    Online Gambling sites never keep/wager more than you can stand never to see again.
    Personally I like to see the man's face and the color of hi$ $$...paying or rcvg....gd luck
    Villanova +275 is $weet for me to take a whack...... +8 be great...+7.5 is for normal ppl..
    "Support yr local bookmaker"

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    Druff you nailed this topic on the radio. Just wanted to make a quick observation of these guys who tweet about money they have got rolled for leading with ďPublic Service Announcement....Ē. Maybe it is about .5 percent about protecting others, but in most cases itís 99.5% about outing the alleged party that owes the money. In many cases to shame them to do something about it. This is totally fair, but itís just annoying when itís cloaked as ďIím warning the publicĒ. This is about them and I wish they would just be more straight forward about it rather than shaping it like they are serving the greater good.

    Chance Kornuth tweeted a while back about the kid who owed him money but still was on stake kings. Once again as a PSA. Chance did like my reply tweet, that this was mostly about him getting his money back above all.

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