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    Left wing soyboy vs. Trader Joes -- who is correct?

    https://twitter.com/BenBonnema/status/1365422715436478470

    https://twitter.com/BenBonnema/status/1365448606677876743



    When I was reading the guy's letter at first, I was actually on his side. I personally find it annoying when corporations take performative, low-value "COVID safety" measures, which look good on the surface but don't actually help prevent the spread of the virus.

    He's actually likely correct that aerosol transmission of COVID is probably the main culprit. It definitely isn't surfaces, and it may not even be droplets as previously thought. This would explain why most of the COVID spread occurs indoors where there's heating/AC systems running. This is also why I have almost completely avoided being indoors (other than my own home) over the past 11 months, and also why I believe that masking is only a minor factor in preventing the spread.

    Unfortunately, as the letter goes on, it comes off as condescending and pedantic, and he makes absurd demands which are unrealistic to expect of the corporation.

    He demands MERV-13 filters instead of MERV-7, wants changes to the HVAC system, wants the CO2 level constantly monitored and store capacity changed accordingly (lol), and most obnoxiously, wants a "three strikes" rule against customers who don't mask.

    The corporation decided the guy was a dickhead, especially with the three strikes rule he proposed, and canned him.

    I don't think he deserved to be fired over this, but his demands were mostly crazy, and he was asking for way too much. Did he really expect all Trader Joe's stores to constantly monitor its CO2 level, or to institute a customer three-strike system?

    The letter would have been far more reasonable if he simply pointed out that aerosol transmission is likely the way COVID mostly spreads, and then suggest a few simple, easy-to-implement changes which could improve safety for employees. It's also important to know that large corporations are full of bureaucracy, so it's impossible for one low-level employee to force through multiple elements of major change. He wrote this as if he were communicating directly with the owner of a mom-and-pop store (who also probably would have told him to eat shit), and was completely naive regarding the way corporate complaints are processed and handled.

    Also, this dude (who isn't trans) lists his pronouns in his Twitter bio, so that's pretty much all you need to know.




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    The CEO is an idiot for firing this guy in this environment.

    The company is not going to implement the changes at cost that he requested but you throw a bone here and there. What you don’t do is fire his ass.

    Bad look.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    The CEO is an idiot for firing this guy in this environment.

    No company is not going to implement the changes at cost that he requested but you throw a bone here and there. What you don’t do is fire his ass.
    I agree.

    They should have picked something easy from this letter (such as changing the filters from MERV-7 to MERV-13), told him that they're still looking into the feasibility of the rest of his requests, and dropped it. If they wanted, they could have responded that they are not interested in setting up punitive systems against their customers, as that's not what they're about.

    Would have looked waaaaaaaaay better. If he continued to bitch and been an asshole about things, they could have then fired his ass.

    Also, this guy looks fairly young. Why is he so worried?

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    fuck the gay fag, corporations are GOD obviously

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    Lol what a shit eating cuck get COVID fag

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    The CEO is an idiot for firing this guy in this environment.

    The company is not going to implement the changes at cost that he requested but you throw a bone here and there. What you don’t do is fire his ass.

    Bad look.
    Agree.

    Also, what's wrong with just saying no? Thanks for your input but we're not doing those things.

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    That guy probably sends letters all the time asking for stupid shit and they got sick of it.

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    My read on this matter is that management at Trader Joes’s took advantage of this guy’s naive belief that his input would be taken as constructive advice as a legal reason to fire a pro-unionize employee, as the management there seem to have a record of doing that with other workers there who have been agitating for non-management workforce there to unionize.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    The CEO is an idiot for firing this guy in this environment.

    The company is not going to implement the changes at cost that he requested but you throw a bone here and there. What you don’t do is fire his ass.

    Bad look.
    Agree completely, although personally I'm fine that they axed him. Some entry-level know-it-all trying to demand things from the CEO. Next Generation in a nutshell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    The CEO is an idiot for firing this guy in this environment.

    The company is not going to implement the changes at cost that he requested but you throw a bone here and there. What you don’t do is fire his ass.

    Bad look.

    You're assuming that his story is true. There's more to the story that is coming out. And after reading his twitter feed, he seems to be a bit of a cunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerveza Fria View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    The CEO is an idiot for firing this guy in this environment.

    The company is not going to implement the changes at cost that he requested but you throw a bone here and there. What you don’t do is fire his ass.

    Bad look.

    You're assuming that his story is true. There's more to the story that is coming out. And after reading his twitter feed, he seems to be a bit of a cunt.
    Oh he seems like a huge cunt. Very unlikable just from the letter he wrote, alone.

    Also he lists his pronouns on his Twitter, which makes him terrible by default.

    What else has come out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cerveza Fria View Post


    You're assuming that his story is true. There's more to the story that is coming out. And after reading his twitter feed, he seems to be a bit of a cunt.
    Oh he seems like a huge cunt. Very unlikable just from the letter he wrote, alone.

    Also he lists his pronouns on his Twitter, which makes him terrible by default.

    What else has come out?
    He seems to be a gay idiot who believes in 'climate change' (lol) as if God isn't in control and has a rainbow flag on his Twitter bio.

    Also seems to write faggot music to homosexual-themed plays.

    Pretty much a perfectly curated caricature to get Team Retard up in arms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    Oh he seems like a huge cunt. Very unlikable just from the letter he wrote, alone.

    Also he lists his pronouns on his Twitter, which makes him terrible by default.

    What else has come out?
    He seems to be a gay idiot who believes in 'climate change' (lol) as if God isn't in control and has a rainbow flag on his Twitter bio.

    Also seems to write faggot music to homosexual-themed plays.

    Pretty much a perfectly curated caricature to get Team Retard up in arms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    Oh he seems like a huge cunt. Very unlikable just from the letter he wrote, alone.

    Also he lists his pronouns on his Twitter, which makes him terrible by default.

    What else has come out?
    He seems to be a gay idiot who believes in 'climate change' (lol) as if God isn't in control and has a rainbow flag on his Twitter bio.

    Also seems to write idiotic music to homosexual-themed plays.

    Pretty much a perfectly curated caricature to get Team Retard up in arms.
    Do you have they/them on your Twitter profile?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cerveza Fria View Post


    You're assuming that his story is true. There's more to the story that is coming out. And after reading his twitter feed, he seems to be a bit of a cunt.
    Oh he seems like a huge cunt. Very unlikable just from the letter he wrote, alone.

    Also he lists his pronouns on his Twitter, which makes him terrible by default.

    What else has come out?
    This has its uses. For example I list mine as "Your Well-Endowedness." "Your Excellency" also acceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cerveza Fria View Post


    You're assuming that his story is true. There's more to the story that is coming out. And after reading his twitter feed, he seems to be a bit of a cunt.
    Oh he seems like a huge cunt. Very unlikable just from the letter he wrote, alone.

    Also he lists his pronouns on his Twitter, which makes him terrible by default.

    What else has come out?

    Nothing yet. But, Trader Joe’s did say he was fired for treating customers poorly. Wait for the details to come out, now that he has a suit filing claims on his behalf. I’m sure they have it all documented, otherwise he wouldn’t have been fired.

    Over the years, when I have let someone go for performance or otherwise, I always have my ducks in a row, before I make the move. And since Florida is an employment at will state, I do not have to give a reason. And I don’t. But, I always have my back up documented. Just in case.

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    Not surprised to hear he treats customers poorly. After reading his letter, I can only imagine what a piece of work this guy is amongst his coworkers and “social circle”, let alone how he acts towards customers.

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    Left wing soyboy vs. Trader Joes -- who is correct?

    - Employee went overboard and asked for too much and not ideal items.
    - This is why I support unions, they can push reasonable work place safety items.
    - Should have just meet with him and explained their side. Termination might lead to an expensive lawsuit and the Whistleblower laws might be i his side.
    - This is why you sends operational type letter anonymously.
    - Whistleblower laws might come into effect here too.

     
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    You cannot predict the future of any man but his looks promising. Smart kid obviously so losing a Trader Joe job won't worry him much. Spoke his mind quite eloquently from what I saw. You gotta give it to this new generation, they don't sit back much. He'll take the Internet's money, live hard and die at twenty seven like we all should

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Also, this dude (who isn't trans) lists his pronouns in his Twitter bio, so that's pretty much all you need to know.




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