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    My First wife was big on Judyism. Her first name was Judy...and she thought everyone should worship her.

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    Druff, the issue with how religion affects such issues as contraception is lsn’t about how many religious people currently approve of it, but whether the religious people who do object to it have enough political power to affect how easily women can have acess to it. And hyper-religious rightwing Christians control the GOP and were able to get their President to limit the availability of contraception for women vis-a-vis their healthcare insurance coverage.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/08/u...obamacare.html

    So who gives a fuck if “most” religious people approve of contraceptiom. The ones who matter here are the religious people who oppose it AND have sufficient political power to fuck with the lives of others by making it prohibitively costly for many of those who want affordable access to that family planning option.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerveza Fria View Post
    My First wife was big on Judyism. Her first name was Judy...and she thought everyone should worship her.
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      Cerveza Fria: Yeah, that was pretty bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    You can teach your children the morality you want. If that is absent of religion, that's fine. However, if others want to bring their family up with a religious upbringing in order to help instill morality in them, it's also fine, provided it doesn't become fanaticism.
    Completely disagree. There's no bigger lie you can tell a child than instilling the notion that an omnipotent lunatic with a grudge is watching their every move and they better be good or else.

    I don't think morality in human beings is contingent on a fear proposition; children can easily be taught morality without magic, like most other things in life.

    Do I think believing in God is actively harmful for the majority? No, at least not in stable countries.

    I think it's probably neutral for a slim majority, beneficial in ways to some and actively shitty for the rest.

    But it sucks that the vast majority of humans believe in some eternal paradise and live their life in accordance with whatever cult reigned supreme in the land they were born based on fairy tales they were taught as children.

    No different really than an adult who still believes in Santa Claus.

     
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    Has a shot at 7-3 in the Superbowl. We should already be kneeling.
    Future president/unified world leader for sure. Take it away Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerveza Fria View Post
    My First wife was big on Judyism. Her first name was Judy...and she thought everyone should worship her.
    this is a Judy Tenuta joke, but I'll allow it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cerveza Fria View Post
    My First wife was big on Judyism. Her first name was Judy...and she thought everyone should worship her.
    this is a Judy Tenuta joke, but I'll allow it.

    Judy Tenuta? Damn, you must be old AF if you know who she is.

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    Not because of religion, was because of people.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

    Ronald Reagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    Not because of religion, was because of people.
    Obviously these notions of morality come from your god book.

    The same book with passages about turning your daughter over to be raped by houseguests, fucking your brother's wife when he dies, sacrificing your children, not wearing shirts with two types of cloth, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    Not because of religion, was because of people.
    Obviously these notions of morality come from your god book.

    The same book with passages about turning your daughter over to be raped by houseguests, fucking your brother's wife when he dies, sacrificing your children, not wearing shirts with two types of cloth, etc.



    GOD IS..... NOT GOD?

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    Stop giving money to these clowns...


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    Religion makes people do stupid things-

    https://toofab.com/2021/02/10/pharma...EY52btasR0NX-g

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    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    The gays got off on that though.

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/11/u...gtype=Homepage

    Headline is "Christian Prophets are on the Rise; What Happens When They're Wrong?"

    Answer: Simple, they'll make up more bullshit that is "just about to happen" and people will be suckered in again and keep sending money.

    See any resemblance with QAnon?

    This is a huge problem with religion and the reason Republicans love it so much. It makes people willing to swallow the craziest batshit beliefs and put their money, mind, time and even lives on the line in service to the deity who of course never talks and makes his wishes known through a self-interested human leader. It's a brilliant setup that developed organically in ancient times and more recently has been deliberately exploited. Hubbard stated it explicitly when starting Scientology. No better way to get rich and powerful than by starting a religion, if you can make it catch on.


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    Like Duh! As if I didn't already know most of the PFAer's haven't got a prayer.
    (long before there was a PFA i had my Grenade & Crossbones avatar at DD)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrenadaRoger View Post
    Like Duh! As if I didn't already know most of the PFAer's haven't got a prayer.


    Jersey pride should die with Bon Jovi instead of that blow hard (get it?) Springtein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    It makes people willing to swallow the craziest batshit beliefs and put their money, mind, time and even lives on the line in service to the deity who of course never talks and makes his wishes known through a self-interested human leader. It's a brilliant setup that developed organically in ancient times and more recently has been deliberately exploited. Hubbard stated it explicitly when starting Scientology. No better way to get rich and powerful than by starting a religion, if you can make it catch on.
    You mean like the way kids are brainwashed on college campuses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    It makes people willing to swallow the craziest batshit beliefs and put their money, mind, time and even lives on the line in service to the deity who of course never talks and makes his wishes known through a self-interested human leader. It's a brilliant setup that developed organically in ancient times and more recently has been deliberately exploited. Hubbard stated it explicitly when starting Scientology. No better way to get rich and powerful than by starting a religion, if you can make it catch on.
    You mean like the way kids are brainwashed on college campuses?
    Yeah kinda, but it's not the same.

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    I have always believed in a higher power and have been witness to many unexplainable spiritual occurances as a nurse. Until a few years ago, it was a distant belief. I knew people that had a personal relationship with God/Jesus but never experienced that.
    All I know now is something changed, when I asked for help from despair, I received it. I get that people are like well good for you after almost 60 years, fuck off. I say if someone so ingrained in crutch living can receive that grace, it IS.
    Is there a lot more to fix, oh ya, We are working on that.
    All I know is I used to face the day with anxiety, fear, addiction.
    My everyday now starts and ends with peace.

    God is good.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

    Ronald Reagan

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