Originally Posted by
BCR
The more I think of this thing the bigger loser it looks like to me.
I can’t think of a single reason to move forward with the impeachment. Any way I look at it, it’s really bad politics for the Dems in my opinion.
They won’t win.
You’re going to at best get 3 or 4 GOP senators who are even open to it for real. Those people are going to be the most reasonable GOP Senators that you would prefer don’t get primaried next opportunity.
If you don’t have 67, which they certainly don’t, you’re putting the onus on the very small handful of GOP senators to vote their conscious and commit political suicide in a losing effort. They’d be stupid to do that unless they’re retiring anyway. You wouldn’t even want them to for some political stunt. Those are the few you might be able to reach out to when Manchin goes rogue on some issue.
Right now, anywhere I can find Trump die hards, they are talking about getting rid of all the establishment Republicans who betrayed Trump. They hate Biden, but they already did, and right now they’re angrier at the GOP establishment.
The whole party is in disarray and face the real chance of Trump continuing to target them at his whim. That will be much harder once they are on CNN for a week defending Trump.
I actually think Mitch is trying to sucker the Dems into thinking they have a shot when they have absolutely no shot.
It serves his agenda from every direction. 1-Dems don’t have the numbers and he knows it. 2-His party is in disarray and he has to worry about all his establishment guys getting primaried from the Trump wing 3-He does care about stopping anything Biden puts forth and Biden failing. 4-He’s likely at the end of his career and I believe will vote to not impeach at the end of the day himself.
There is nothing that can quell a Republican civil war quicker and more effectively than Schumer and a bunch of libtards putting on a show and going way overboard playing to their base and demonizing Trump and his supporters who feel abandoned already, and then allowing them to watch the entirety of the sitting GOP senate have Trumps back. Instant unity.
As it stands, everyone not a MAGA die hard already blames Trump and knows he threw red meat to a bunch of mentally unstable loons and caused a riot. That’s already a win. Going forward with the Senate impeachment circus will just appear to acquit him and give him a victory when he’s already lost in any way that matters.
You want Trump angry at the GOP and the threat of a third party. When they all fall in line with Trump and vote no to impeach, you make it much harder for that to gain any traction.
You’ll just be giving a platform to a bunch of guys right now viewed as RINOs by MAGA nation an opportunity to defend him publicly and fall on their swords.
It’s a compete gift to allow them to pander to Trumps base as it’s a hill they can easily die on without having to condone the riot. Trumps gone. It’s a gray area in a constitutional sense. He did his usual walk right up to the line, but not clearly cross it thing in that speech before the riot.
His words are ambiguous enough to give them cover to vote no. He said to walk to the Capitol and “peacefully and patriotically make your voice heard.” He said fight after and they got the real message, but it’s ambiguous enough where the Marco Rubios of the world will relish the chance to defend Trump publicly on the issue without appearing like Q tards.
After that, it will embolden them to just fight anything Biden tries to get through even harder once they feel comfortable and they’ll just try to keep running out the clock until 2022 without as much concern of being taken out by friendly fire on the right.
Much more effective for the Dems to let the actual defendants who stormed the Capitol come to court for months on end and lay the blame on Trump and say they thought they were doing what their president asked of them.
Smartest political move would be for Biden and Schumer to schedule a press conference and have Schumer say he was prepared to move full steam ahead with impeachment proceedings but that the President asked him to drop it for the sake of the country so that we can concentrate on Covid and passing the stimulus for those hit so hard by pandemic and get the country back on track. Why give them a fight they’re literally begging for?
Dems aren’t that good at politics though, so I expect a circus that will fail.