Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
The Democrats fucked this up.

He was never going to be convicted, that's obvious. Trump Republicans (which is most of them) are cultists with no morals or shame.

I don't get why they decided to call witnesses and then suddenly reversed course. To save time? They should be spending a lot of time on this. Witnesses would expose the lies and self-contradiction of Trump's defense. He DID know the crowd was there to assassinate Pence, and he wanted them to. Among many other examples. You let the witnesses talk, you let the facts be exposed in stark relief and then you let voters draw their conclusions about what spineless hypocritical assholes the Trump Republicans are. The audience is the people who are paying attention, meaning people who do follow this stuff and are likely voters, and who have swing potential.

At his first impeachment the Republicans refused to allow witnesses and the Democrats lost their minds. Now the Democrats run the Senate and they can allow all the witnesses they like, and they just decide not to.

Even most Republicans admitted Trump's lawyers were a complete embarrassment. It wasn't going to lead to a conviction but you do the right thing and let the process play out and then it is in the hands of the voters.

It's disgusting how the Democrats never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
Didn't you watch what Mitch had to say? His stance was that it was unconstitutional to impeach a former president. This was the same stance the other republicans had that voted no. No amount of eye witnesses was going to change that. Mitch basically said Trump was guilty but the place to try him is a court of law, not the Senate.
I am not saying they could have got a conviction. But they didn't even fully present their case and that's fucking weaksauce.

And it's rich of Mitch to say that after he decided to delay the trial until after the inauguration.