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    So what does the Senate, House and Presidency being blue actually mean in the real world?

    Cutting out all the partisan narratives what does this actually mean in the real world? How are things going to change for better/worse for everyday Americans because of this?

    Any predictions? I actually have no clue.

     
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    Higher taxes

    More identity politics

    More regulations

    College loan forgiveness

    Expanded government

    "Public option" in healthcare which is essentially just a stepping stone to full-on socialized medicine


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Higher taxes

    More identity politics

    More regulations

    College loan forgiveness

    Expanded government

    "Public option" in healthcare which is essentially just a stepping stone to full-on socialized medicine


    well druff, your moron in chief actually pulled this off for the democrats.

    should have been impossible, but oh well

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    The Senate will be a 50/50 split, but because of the VP Tie-Breaker Chuck Schumer will be Majority Leader. The Majority Leader runs the Senate in just about every way. You saw that with Mitch McConnell not even allowing a vote on the 2K checks. He controls the schedule, votes, if there will be amendments allowed on the floor & just about everything. The Senate committees will now be chaired by Democrats. The Presiding officer, who is typically a rotation of junior members of the majority party will always be a Democrat.

    Judicial appointments, cabinet confirmations and other business is no longer subject to a 60 vote threshold. It used to take 60 votes to get almost anything done in the Senate. 60 votes invokes cloture (The end of debate and eventually a vote on the issue before the senate). Individual Senators have power and the minority has a lot more power than the House for sure, but at the end of the day the majority party in the Senate runs the joint.

    This means that for the most part this means the Dems will get most of their shit through one way or another. Not having the Senate in Republican hands is a huge roadblock that now is not an issue. It means you can expect more of the Democratic agenda to become law with far less Republican input.

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    It means for once since the Obama administration, the Democrats can actually get shit done.

    Mitch McConnell no longer has any power.

    It's over Republican shitheads, you have been defeated.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Higher taxes

    More identity politics

    More regulations

    College loan forgiveness

    Expanded government

    "Public option" in healthcare which is essentially just a stepping stone to full-on socialized medicine

    If they repeal the Trump "tax cuts" I hope that includes the $10K cap Trump put on deductions of state and property taxes. That change really fucked me.

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    traditionally the market tanks a bit when the same party holds both house and senate.

    not sure why.

    but that could create some ripples vis a vis taxes and interest rates.

    the x factor there i suppose is QE, and we will have to see how queen yellin chooses to crack that nut moving forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    It means for once since the Obama administration, the Democrats can actually get shit done.
    I am not sure what you mean by this, Obama had the Senate as well for a while if I recall and they... they... ?

    For me the most interesting thing will be if Dem's actually pass into law that which they have run on for 4 years now. The truth is the Obama admin. would not have and did not do most of what they are cheering for today. And if they did, he didn't get it done.

    Trump did more for conservatives in 4 years than Obama did for Dems, its just the truth.

    Time will tell but unless law enforcement starts killing/jailing less black men, socialized medicine, free tuition and a 51st State happen, they failed.

    Obama could have tackled all those issues but didn't, huh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    It means for once since the Obama administration, the Democrats can actually get shit done.

    Mitch McConnell no longer has any power.

    It's over Republican shitheads, you have been defeated.



    This is true...for 2 years, then it will be back to glorious gridlock.

    Everything that goes wrong, Dems will get the blame and will lose seats in the midterms....happens every time

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Higher taxes

    More identity politics

    More regulations

    College loan forgiveness

    Expanded government

    "Public option" in healthcare which is essentially just a stepping stone to full-on socialized medicine


    You're forgetting about the most powerful man in the United States govt. as of this morning. His name is Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia, the last of the "Blue Dog " Democrats. He has already said he will not vote for Socialistic policies. If he is a NO vote, Biden doesn't get his legislation through. Biden already is probably getting some hookers, er I mean Lobbyists to try and convince him on his agenda.

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    It means we're all gonna suck tranny dick and we're all gonna like it. I for one welcome our new homosexual overlords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerveza Fria View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Higher taxes

    More identity politics

    More regulations

    College loan forgiveness

    Expanded government

    "Public option" in healthcare which is essentially just a stepping stone to full-on socialized medicine


    You're forgetting about the most powerful man in the United States govt. as of this morning. His name is Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia, the last of the "Blue Dog " Democrats. He has already said he will not vote for Socialistic policies. If he is a NO vote, Biden doesn't get his legislation through. Biden already is probably getting some hookers, er I mean Lobbyists to try and convince him on his agenda.
    This might work. He grabbed my buddy’s wife’s ass on an elevator at the Peach Bowl back when he was governor and WVU played in it. Feels like 15 years ago roughly .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
    Cutting out all the partisan narratives what does this actually mean in the real world? How are things going to change for better/worse for everyday Americans because of this?

    Any predictions? I actually have no clue.
    It means Druff thinks he'll have Blue balls for 2 years, but its going to be a lot closer to 8 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
    Cutting out all the partisan narratives what does this actually mean in the real world? How are things going to change for better/worse for everyday Americans because of this?

    Any predictions? I actually have no clue.
    It means that the GOP can’t block investigations by the House, Senate, AND Department of Justice into the full extent of Trump’s criminal activities committed while he was President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
    Cutting out all the partisan narratives what does this actually mean in the real world? How are things going to change for better/worse for everyday Americans because of this?

    Any predictions? I actually have no clue.
    It means that the GOP can’t block investigations by the House, Senate, AND Department of Justice into the full extent of Trump’s criminal activities committed while he was President.
    Yeah. Good point. I can see how this is not great news for the Trump Crime Family Syndicate.

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    I was going to open a thread that asked the same question a slightly different way.

    As a rule of thumb when a party has a supermajority they jam through something that is at the top of the list for them that they normally would not. With Obama it was the ACA. Trump it was the tax reform. You tend to use a lot of “political capital” when you pull something like this and the first midterms tend to go bad if you go to far, as both Obama and Trump Both found out.


    What will be “that item” for Biden?

    My take is if the right of a woman to choose is truly so God Damned important to the left and we are all so so so worried that Roe V Wade is in danger..... then shouldnt priority 1 be a national Abortion Law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    I was going to open a thread that asked the same question a slightly different way.

    As a rule of thumb when a party has a supermajority they jam through something that is at the top of the list for them that they normally would not. With Obama it was the ACA. Trump it was the tax reform. You tend to use a lot of “political capital” when you pull something like this and the first midterms tend to go bad if you go to far, as both Obama and Trump Both found out.


    What will be “that item” for Biden?

    My take is if the right of a woman to choose is truly so God Damned important to the left and we are all so so so worried that Roe V Wade is in danger..... then shouldnt priority 1 be a national Abortion Law?
    You mean a national abortion at 9 months law?

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    I posted this yesterday in another thread, copying here.

    Just add in that Biden can appoint whatever federal judges he wants. He'll likely replace Breyer and if there's a god Thomas will die so Biden can replace him.

    They'll repeal Trump's tax cuts for people making over a certain amount of income. At least 6 figures.

    I'd love to see DC and PR admitted as states but I don't think they have the balls to do that.

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    The only possible silver lining here is that we will see another 1994 in 2022. Basically everyone will be fed up with the out-of-touch left wing agenda allowed to run wild, and there will be a huge backlash in 2022.

    We even have the rapidly increasing violent crime, so we might even have somewhat of a referendum on crime at that point, which was a huge issue in 1994.

    Still a long time, though. We'll have to see.

    On the flip side, if we experience a massive recovery after COVID and everyone is happy, people may vote for the status quo. COVID's trajectory in the next 2 years will be huge as far as determining where the midterm goes.
    If you need to dream up this story so you can comfort yourself, it's cool, I understand.

    The truth is that Biden is putting together a staunchly centrist administration, so much so that the far left is pissed at him before he's even taken office.

    With razor-thin control of the Senate, the Democrats will have to be very centrist to keep Manchin as a yes vote for any legislation. Though I can see one or two Republicans who haven't lost their minds switching sides in exchange for a committee chair, or possibly voting yes on Democratic bills in exchange for plenty of pork. Even if this happens, the Senate will stay in the center. And given whose terms are up in 2022, chances are that the Democrats will gain seats, not lose them.

    I could see the Republicans possibly taking back the House though.
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